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Post by kidcrewbob on Aug 21, 2019 20:54:43 GMT
Yes, but to lose it you must have it to lose ie gain or be given that possession - at least he doesn’t hide and looks like he cares - if they all had that same attitude we’d be in much better shape. Speechless. So you’re singling out the scorer of a decent goal (albeit a consolation) who saw a lot more of the game than the rest of the shysters and wasters to slag off and blame for our pathetic capitulation........speechless.......
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Post by krypto88 on Aug 21, 2019 20:55:28 GMT
You lot shitting on McClean, bunch of jokers! Did you watch the match tonight...? Yeah, he gave the ball away a bit, but so what. He did more than any of the rest of them muppets. Give the guy a break. Flipping LWB scores the only goal from our only shot on target. Why not shit on these strikers a bit?! "he gave the ball away a bit, but so what" Jesus... where do you start with that?! He lost it THIRTY-THREE times. That's embarrassingly bad. He took his goal well but he is a terrible, terrible footballer. Not one aspect of his technical ability is even a 6/10. Rather have the ball and lose it than be a non-entity posing as a footballer on the pitch. At least he made himself available to receive it. Look at some of these other clowns.
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Post by tinofspam on Aug 21, 2019 20:56:16 GMT
He is fucking shite, but he tries. That's not good enough. This comment got liked by a salopian, that pretty much says it all
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Post by melonhead on Aug 21, 2019 20:56:38 GMT
He lost the ball 25 times 😂😂 You try watching the game! Nathan thinks he's the answer at left back. He's not the answer anywhere. YAWNNNNNNNNN!
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Post by kidcrewbob on Aug 21, 2019 20:56:48 GMT
I don’t accept it you tool but I appreciate honest effort and guile when talent is at a premium or in fact almost none existent ......and I include the management team in this lack-of-talent pool As we are rediscovering, this league needs a shit load of effort and commitment to get anywhere - something we’ve forgotten this past few years..... Does it heck. We lack quality. And nothing but. So you were happy with the effort tonight ?? All put a shift in eh? All looked fully committed and ready to fight for the cause ?? Need more show ponies ?
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Post by tomcmod on Aug 21, 2019 20:57:07 GMT
Still the least of the issues, never mind let's pretend he is because it fits in with a high numbers agenda.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 20:57:08 GMT
So you’re singling out the scorer of a decent goal (albeit a consolation) who saw a lot more of the game than the rest of the shysters and wasters to slag off and blame for our pathetic capitulation........speechless....... They were all absolutely shit, not singling anyone out.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 20:57:32 GMT
As I keep saying. He’s fucking wank. Absolutely no football brain whatsoever. But he can run. Well fucking run far away from here James
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Post by stokie223 on Aug 21, 2019 20:57:53 GMT
"he gave the ball away a bit, but so what" Jesus... where do you start with that?! He lost it THIRTY-THREE times. That's embarrassingly bad. He took his goal well but he is a terrible, terrible footballer. Not one aspect of his technical ability is even a 6/10. Rather have the ball and lose it than be a non-entity posing as a footballer on the pitch. At least he made himself available to receive it. Look at some of these other clowns. I'm sorry, but he's a truly awful footballer. One of the worst professionals I've seen in terms of technical ability. A winger that doesn't score or get any assists (save for tonight) just isn't good enough. If you put a Labrador in a Stoke strip it will run around for 90 minutes...
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Post by stantheman on Aug 21, 2019 20:59:17 GMT
No argument needed. Fuck passion how about actually knowing how to play football might be a start. Like his team mates? Give me passion over Woods, who didnt pass forwards all night, over Allen who is getting embarrasing, over Clucas who tackles like a girl... I could go on
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Post by kidcrewbob on Aug 21, 2019 20:59:20 GMT
So you’re singling out the scorer of a decent goal (albeit a consolation) who saw a lot more of the game than the rest of the shysters and wasters to slag off and blame for our pathetic capitulation........speechless....... They were all absolutely shit, not singling anyone out. I’ll agree with the first bit......
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 21, 2019 21:00:00 GMT
Does it heck. We lack quality. And nothing but. So you were happy with the effort tonight ?? All put a shift in eh? All looked fully committed and ready to fight for the cause ?? Need more show ponies ? I don’t think lack of effort was the issue. Lack of talent and lack of coaching talent was the problem.
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Post by mattyd on Aug 21, 2019 21:00:49 GMT
Best player on the pitch for Stoke...2 out of 10....Wank, but not as wank as the others.
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Post by madeinthepotteries on Aug 21, 2019 21:01:03 GMT
Take note of what exactly??
Seriously this guy can't pay football. Has no brain whatsoever and is basically a rugby player. Just runs.
The worst player I have ever seen in a Stoke Shirt
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Post by dastokie on Aug 21, 2019 21:02:17 GMT
Bit of passion Bit of effort Never stopped, even when many others never got started Never created a chance either.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 21:02:39 GMT
He can’t help being shit.
But you can’t knock him tonight for being the only one with a bit of fire in his belly......
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Post by dastokie on Aug 21, 2019 21:03:11 GMT
Take note of what exactly?? Seriously this guy can't pay football. Has no brain whatsoever and is basically a rugby player. Just runs. The worst player I have ever seen in a Stoke Shirt Along with Allen and Ince.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 21:03:49 GMT
Bit of passion Bit of effort Never stopped, even when many others never got started Never created a chance either. He’s shit, but he actually put 2/3 really good crosses into the box. Not his fault if no fucker got on the end of them.....
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Post by stantheman on Aug 21, 2019 21:06:34 GMT
Take note of what exactly?? Seriously this guy can't pay football. Has no brain whatsoever and is basically a rugby player. Just runs. The worst player I have ever seen in a Stoke Shirt Ever??? Are you 8 years old? Give me strength
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Post by stokie223 on Aug 21, 2019 21:06:55 GMT
Never created a chance either. He’s shit, but he actually put 2/3 really good crosses into the box. Not his fault if no fucker got on the end of them..... His crossing is abysmal. It's not a good cross if it's absolutely nowhere near anybody, it's just merely put into an area. Watch when he runs down the wing - he never looks up. Not once.
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Post by UsAndThem on Aug 21, 2019 21:09:05 GMT
Whether people like it or not, McClean has been one of our best players in the small amount of games we have had this season. He is the least of our worries at the moment. People have an agenda against him and he gets micro analysed. Do the same with Smith, Clucas, Bath almost any of our players and you’ll find mistakes and faults. Etebo came on tonight and gifted them their third goal. Had that been mcclean there’d have been a lynch mob. Because it’s Etebo, it will be excused and forgotten about. Just for balance, I HATED the fact we signed mcclean and I am dead against what he stands for but that means fuck all on match day.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 21:09:17 GMT
He’s shit, but he actually put 2/3 really good crosses into the box. Not his fault if no fucker got on the end of them..... His crossing is abysmal. It's not a good cross if it's absolutely nowhere near anybody, it's just merely put into an area. Watch when he runs down the wing - he never looks up. Not once. He put 2/3 very good crosses in. Watch it back. Putting into an area is exactly the right thing to do in some cases, the forwards should be making the right runs.....
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 21, 2019 21:10:25 GMT
'Other players take note' Please concede possession 33 times. Not much point in all that effort if you just end up giving the ball away. As for his crosses, if he actually could learn to look up at some point to see exactly where his forwards are that might work. His crossing method is head down and hit. People get carried away with his effort and passion but the bottom line is even at this level he is a poor footballer....christ how much longer is his contract?
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Post by adamsson on Aug 21, 2019 21:10:34 GMT
There 14 better players all in Preston shirts I thought they were nowt special as well. Mind you, they didn't have to be! 😁 Oh they were nothing special
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 21:13:13 GMT
If Edwards was putting in crosses like McClean does, a lot of you would be saying “why is no one getting on the end of the cross” ! I like McClean, he shows passion and always looks forward, tries to beat his man (and normally does) and tries to get a cross in! He lost the ball once every 3 minutes. Id be fucking livid if it was a stat for the whole team but one fucking player!! The only credit I'll give him is he's being absolutely hung out to dry at left back.
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Post by stokie223 on Aug 21, 2019 21:13:58 GMT
His crossing is abysmal. It's not a good cross if it's absolutely nowhere near anybody, it's just merely put into an area. Watch when he runs down the wing - he never looks up. Not once. He put 2/3 very good crosses in. Watch it back. Putting into an area is exactly the right thing to do in some cases, the forwards should be making the right runs..... His crossing was largely woeful... I'm not going to say every single cross because I don't know that to be true, but it was very poor. I would agree with you if it was the right area. From what I watched tonight 99% of his crosses fell to their left back - nowhere near a Stoke shirt.
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Post by supacoopa101 on Aug 21, 2019 21:14:53 GMT
No argument needed. Fuck passion how about actually knowing how to play football might be a start. Like his team mates? Give me passion over Woods, who didnt pass forwards all night, over Allen who is getting embarrasing, over Clucas who tackles like a girl... I could go on Passion can only get us so far. But i agree with the complete lack of quality in our midfield isn't doing us any favours whatsoever
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Post by Stretfordpotterer on Aug 21, 2019 21:14:56 GMT
Again, never hides. Midfield players tonight we’re making runs designed not to get the ball. McClean is far from perfect but he always asks for the ball regardless. If a few more were as interested in actually getting hold of the fucking thing and trying to make something happen as he is we’d be in a lot better shape.
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Post by chuckrocky on Aug 21, 2019 21:19:44 GMT
He’s absolutely wank, there’s just no arguing with that.
But he doesn’t hide, he always makes himself available for the ball, even when he’s getting pelters from his own fans.
There are too many cowards in our team. Woods, Clucas, Allen and Ince go into hiding as soon as we come under pressure. At least McClean has a spine.
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Post by Northy on Aug 21, 2019 21:24:17 GMT
He lost the ball 33 times in the end. If you thought he played ok, you fundamentally don’t understand football. Define losing it, split it down to crosses, tackles, misplaced passes. 1 cross into hogans head at near post was met with a square head.
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