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Post by neworleanstokie on Sept 3, 2019 19:12:54 GMT
Sure.. they are both tourist traps. Nothing to see in Times Square other than the obvious billboards, it's an area every New Yorker avoids if at all possible. There are more homless, panhandlers etc because of the out of towners. Take a few pics then so somewhere nicer.
Same for ESB, much nicer experience going up Roc Center. I did see a line for the Freedom Tower view last week and that would give you a better view of lower manhattan and a much nice area to visit.
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Post by bathstoke on Sept 3, 2019 19:23:51 GMT
Sure.. they are both tourist traps. Nothing to see in Times Square other than the obvious billboards, it's an area every New Yorker avoids if at all possible. There are more homless, panhandlers etc because of the out of towners. Take a few pics then so somewhere nicer. Same for ESB, much nicer experience going up Roc Center. I did see a line for the Freedom Tower view last week and that would give you a better view of lower manhattan and a much nice area to visit. If you don’t mind me asking, are you femme...
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Post by Dresden_scfc on Sept 3, 2019 20:56:15 GMT
Sure.. they are both tourist traps. Nothing to see in Times Square other than the obvious billboards, it's an area every New Yorker avoids if at all possible. There are more homless, panhandlers etc because of the out of towners. Take a few pics then so somewhere nicer. Same for ESB, much nicer experience going up Roc Center. I did see a line for the Freedom Tower view last week and that would give you a better view of lower manhattan and a much nice area to visit. OK thanks for the heads up 👍
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Post by neworleanstokie on Sept 4, 2019 11:22:15 GMT
Sure.. they are both tourist traps. Nothing to see in Times Square other than the obvious billboards, it's an area every New Yorker avoids if at all possible. There are more homless, panhandlers etc because of the out of towners. Take a few pics then so somewhere nicer. Same for ESB, much nicer experience going up Roc Center. I did see a line for the Freedom Tower view last week and that would give you a better view of lower manhattan and a much nice area to visit. If you don’t mind me asking, are you femme... am I what?
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Post by murphthesurf on Sept 4, 2019 20:44:48 GMT
I've lived/worked in NY for the last 10 years (Upper Side) Here's my top picks: Do's: Don't Empire State Building Hi, just curious about you not recommending staying around times square and going to the empire state building? I'm going New York in December so just wondering, thanks. "Don't go to the Empire State Building"??????????????? I don't blame you for querying that, Drez. What a load o' rollox! The one thing you most certainly should do if you're going to NY is get yourself up the Empire State Building. For me, the Empire State Building is unmissable - it's possibly the first iconic landmark that comes to mind when you think of NY, and so I'd say it's the #1 place to go as a tourist. From memory I think the viewing floor is floor #86, and standing there with the breeze on our faces and gazing out over the city was a unique and breathtaking experience. Do make sure you allow plenty of time for your visit - once you get in, you buy your ticket but can then queue for an hour or two for the lift. Also get yourselves a trip on the Staten Island Ferry - just to have done it, if nothing else. For many New Yorkers it's an ordinary, everyday thing, but as a tourist I thought it was a thrill and having a trip on it was great chance I couldn't resist. We boarded it next to Ground Zero, where I'd wanted to go so we could pay our respects. This was in 2003. Grand Central Station is also a MUST - the very high and vast 'ceiling' (not the right word but I don't know what else to call it) is a stunning work of art in itself - a map of the heavens/constellations. If oysters are your thing there's even a world-famous Oyster Bar inside the station. A good way to see quite a lot of places very comfortably is the usual sort-of open-top double decker bus with a tour guide giving a commentary plus you can take a horse-drawn carriage ride in Central Park. A word of caution if you go into a pizza place - check the sizes of the pizzas before ordering! Across the road & down a bit from the Empire State Building there's a pizza restaurant place called Empire State Pizza - after our trip up the Empire State Building we went in, sat down and ordered 'two pizzas' and when they arrived they were both two feet across…… we couldn't quite manage all of them…….. When they brought them to our table and we saw the size of them we were speechless, and I remember miming the size of a dinner-plate and saying to the the guy "they're only this big in the UK" and he grinned and said "you weren't to know" and took one of the pizzas back and insisted on giving us our money back on it so we put the refund in their tips jar. We went in December too - we had a six-day sailing from Southampton then a five-day stay in NY and flew back on Christmas Eve. Christmas is a magical time to go there as the Xmas decorations are spectacular and there are massively tall and wonderfully decorated Xmas trees inside all the major tourist and public buildings, hotels, etc. Most of the ordinary street trees are also lit up with strings of hundreds of small lightbulbs threaded all through their branches. The whole thing is an amazing experience and I guarantee you'll never forget it. If you're taking Mrs Good Lady other 'alf with you, you might want to somehow arrange it so that you skillfully avoid the area where Saks, Macy's and Bloomingdales are - Mr Surf was nowhere near quick enough off the mark, and I went on one of the best spending sprees of my life. Bon voyage - you'll love it. And bon appétit! Empire State Pizza Broadway, New York City, NY www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g60763-d522536-Reviews-Empire_State_Pizza-New_York_City_New_York.html
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Post by neworleanstokie on Sept 4, 2019 22:04:28 GMT
Each to their own mts, glad you enjoyed your visit. Staten Island Ferry is a good idea - you could also do the Hoboken ferry for a short trip and great views from that side of the Hudson at night. Bus tour is also a good idea but please avoid the horse drawn carriages. The city is no environment for them and it's awful when there is an accident. Great story with your pizza and classy move with the tip!
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Post by murphthesurf on Sept 4, 2019 22:33:43 GMT
Each to their own mts, glad you enjoyed your visit. Staten Island Ferry is a good idea - you could also do the Hoboken ferry for a short trip and great views from that side of the Hudson at night. Bus tour is also a good idea but please avoid the horse drawn carriages. The city is no environment for them and it's awful when there is an accident. Great story with your pizza and classy move with the tip! Thank you, neworleans! One aims to help! (You see the Empire State Bldg quite often in films or on the news, and I always think it's a bit of a thrill to think 'I've actually been up that'.) I totally agree with you about the horse-drawn carriages - we didn't go in one and I always feel for the horses in such places - we did the open-top double-decker bus tour and did it at night. We were so lucky with the weather, because despite it being late December the temp at night was sth like 57 degrees (it was lit up on the top of some tall building) and was a perfect night-time temp for doing a tour....... "and that doorway is where John Lennon was shot" etc. etc. One thing about the Staten Island ferry - the seats were all wooden and looked really old - pretty ancient, in fact - but no problem at all with that, and it all looked so cute, etc................. but then I suddenly clapped eyes on all the folded-up inflatable lifejackets, which I think were stowed above the seats - and felt very unsettled as it had simply never occurred to me that the thing might possibly SINK! And the water was VERY choppy! Thankfully we got across in one piece, though! (Are we allowed to ask about your New Orleans name if you're in New York? I have some lovely friends in Minnesota and their two sons are both Doctors in New Orleans.) No, I'm tempted, but I'm not going to say 'Have a nice day'! Oh, bugger.
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Post by Dresden_scfc on Sept 5, 2019 5:52:43 GMT
Hi, just curious about you not recommending staying around times square and going to the empire state building? I'm going New York in December so just wondering, thanks. "Don't go to the Empire State Building"??????????????? I don't blame you for querying that, Drez. What a load o' rollox! The one thing you most certainly should do if you're going to NY is get yourself up the Empire State Building. For me, the Empire State Building is unmissable - it's possibly the first iconic landmark that comes to mind when you think of NY, and so I'd say it's the #1 place to go as a tourist. From memory I think the viewing floor is floor #86, and standing there with the breeze on our faces and gazing out over the city was a unique and breathtaking experience. Do make sure you allow plenty of time for your visit - once you get in, you buy your ticket but can then queue for an hour or two for the lift. Also get yourselves a trip on the Staten Island Ferry - just to have done it, if nothing else. For many New Yorkers it's an ordinary, everyday thing, but as a tourist I thought it was a thrill and a having a trip on it was great chance I couldn't resist. We boarded it next to Ground Zero, where I'd wanted to go so we could pay our respects. This was in 2003. Grand Central Station is also a MUST - the very high and vast 'ceiling' (not the right word but I don't know what else to call it) is a stunning work of art in itself - a map of the heavens/constellations. If oysters are your thing there's even a world-famous Oyster Bar inside the station. A good way to see quite a lot of places very comfortably is the usual sort-of open-top double decker bus with a tour guide giving a commentary plus you can take a horse-drawn carriage ride in Central Park. A word of caution if you go into a pizza place - check the sizes of the pizzas before ordering! Across the road & down a bit from the Empire State Building there's a pizza restaurant place called Empire State Pizza - after our trip up the Empire State Building we went in, sat down and ordered 'two pizzas' and when they arrived they were both two feet across…… we couldn't quite manage all of them…….. When they brought them to our table and we saw the size of them we were speechless, and I remember miming the size of a dinner-plate and saying to the the guy "they're only this big in the UK" and he grinned and said "you weren't to know" and took one of the pizzas back and insisted on giving us our money back on it so we put the refund in their tips jar. We went in December too - we had a six-day sailing from Southampton then a five-day stay in NY and flew back on Christmas Eve. Christmas is a magical time to go there as the Xmas decorations are spectacular and there are massively tall and wonderfuly decorated Xmas trees inside all the major tourist and public buildings, hotels, etc. Most of the ordinary street trees are also lit up with strings of hundreds of small lightbulbs threaded all through their branches. The whole thing is an amazing experience and I guarantee you'll never forget it. If you're taking Mrs Good Lady other 'alf with you, you might want to somehow arrange it so that you skilfully avoid the area where Saks, Macy's and Bloomingdales are - Mr Surf was nowhere near quick enough off the mark, and I went on one of the best spending sprees of my life. Bon voyage - you'll love it. And bon appétit! Empire State Pizza Broadway, New York City, NY www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g60763-d522536-Reviews-Empire_State_Pizza-New_York_City_New_York.htmlThanks mate. I appreciate your input and advise. I went to New York about 10 years ago for around 4days felt like it wasn't enough time. I did go up the empire state building then and it was amazing the views were breathtaking of Central Park all the other tall buildings and remember just seeing yellow taxi's everywhere. I also got a buzz of times square at night when it's all lit up but didn't go in any of the shops there, I've also got no chance of avoiding macy's it's already on the list again we spent hours in there last time and I want to avoid that if possible!I just wanted know if some things had change and if you've only been once it can be hard remember everything. Looking forward to it especially in December as you mentioned murph. I'd love to dine at an Italian American for some pizza in NY. We're staying at the Kitano Hotel if anyone knows it Japanese themed apparently.
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Post by Dresden_scfc on Sept 5, 2019 5:54:10 GMT
I'd also like to see more of central park as ran out of time last time so I think thats on the list too.
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Post by murphthesurf on Sept 5, 2019 6:32:54 GMT
Thanks mate. I appreciate your input and advise. I went to New York about 10 years ago for around 4days felt like it wasn't enough time. I did go up the empire state building then and it was amazing the views were breathtaking of Central Park all the other tall buildings and remember just seeing yellow taxi's everywhere. I also got a buzz of times square at night when it's all lit up but didn't go in any of the shops there, I've also got no chance of avoiding macy's it's already on the list again we spent hours in there last time and I want to avoid that if possible!I just wanted know if some things had change and if you've only been once it can be hard remember everything. Looking forward to it especially in December as you mentioned murph. I'd love to dine at an Italian American for some pizza in NY. We're staying at the Kitano Hotel if anyone knows it Japanese themed apparently. You're very welcome - and - oh, sorry, I didn't realise you'd already been there. You're right - 4 days wouldn't be enough, so I'm not surprised you want to go back. I agree about the iconic yellow taxis everywhere - you arrive in the city and see them all, plus all the skyscrapers, and feel like a kid living a fairytale - but they're all real. In the Gift Shop at the top of the Empire State Building I bought a load of keyrings for friends - some had yellow taxis about 1.5" square on them and some others had little furry King Kongs on them - absolutely delightful keepsakes.
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Post by bathstoke on Sept 5, 2019 6:55:52 GMT
Never been to Yanksville & am not a great fan of Sinatra, but I do love the sweeping melody in this:-
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Post by Dresden_scfc on Sept 5, 2019 7:06:02 GMT
Thanks mate. I appreciate your input and advise. I went to New York about 10 years ago for around 4days felt like it wasn't enough time. I did go up the empire state building then and it was amazing the views were breathtaking of Central Park all the other tall buildings and remember just seeing yellow taxi's everywhere. I also got a buzz of times square at night when it's all lit up but didn't go in any of the shops there, I've also got no chance of avoiding macy's it's already on the list again we spent hours in there last time and I want to avoid that if possible!I just wanted know if some things had change and if you've only been once it can be hard remember everything. Looking forward to it especially in December as you mentioned murph. I'd love to dine at an Italian American for some pizza in NY. We're staying at the Kitano Hotel if anyone knows it Japanese themed apparently. You're very welcome - and - oh, sorry, I didn't realise you'd already been there. You're right - 4 days wouldn't be enough, so I'm not surprised you want to go back. I agree about the iconic yellow taxis everywhere - you arrive in the city and see them all, plus all the skyscrapers, and feel like a kid living a fairytale - but they're all real. In the Gift Shop at the top of the Empire State Building I bought a load of keyrings for friends - some had yellow taxis about 1.5" square on them and some others had little furry King Kongs on them - absolutely delightful keepsakes. No worries its been a while so need a refresh anyway! Yeah not long enough to be honest but still amazing experience, we're just going go out early come back late at night I think thats the way to do it. I think it would be good see some snow there to well its all decorated for Christmas but not too much!
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Post by neworleanstokie on Sept 5, 2019 13:25:51 GMT
Each to their own mts, glad you enjoyed your visit. Staten Island Ferry is a good idea - you could also do the Hoboken ferry for a short trip and great views from that side of the Hudson at night. Bus tour is also a good idea but please avoid the horse drawn carriages. The city is no environment for them and it's awful when there is an accident. Great story with your pizza and classy move with the tip! Thank you, neworleans! One aims to help! (You see the Empire State Bldg quite often in films or on the news, and I always think it's a bit of a thrill to think 'I've actually been up that'.) I totally agree with you about the horse-drawn carriages - we didn't go in one and I always feel for the horses in such places - we did the open-top double-decker bus tour and did it at night. We were so lucky with the weather, because despite it being late December the temp at night was sth like 57 degrees (it was lit up on the top of some tall building) and was a perfect night-time temp for doing a tour....... "and that doorway is where John Lennon was shot" etc. etc. One thing about the Staten Island ferry - the seats were all wooden and looked really old - pretty ancient, in fact - but no problem at all with that, and it all looked so cute, etc................. but then I suddenly clapped eyes on all the folded-up inflatable lifejackets, which I think were stowed above the seats - and felt very unsettled as it had simply never occurred to me that the thing might possibly SINK! And the water was VERY choppy! Thankfully we got across in one piece, though! (Are we allowed to ask about your New Orleans name if you're in New York? I have some lovely friends in Minnesota and their two sons are both Doctors in New Orleans.) No, I'm tempted, but I'm not going to say 'Have a nice day'! Oh, bugger. great to read of your NY adventures MTS and thankfully your trip on the SIF did not end in a remake of the Titanic! You really seemed to have figured out how best to visit which is to live as much as you can as a local - taking the subway, taxis etc. and just enjoying the atmosphere. I've lived here for almost 10 years and there are still parts of the city I have not visited. I mostly work from home (UES) and I also have a desk in the Wall St area but only go into the office every couple of weeks or so. The username was created back in the early 2000's when we were on the old board - whatever that was called! At that time I was living in New Orleans hence the name. I was there for about 8 years but it's still really my US "home"... most of my closest friends are still there and actually many are also Dr's! Folks on this board were really supportive when we went through Katrina which was both the best and worst of times. All the best mate...
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Post by harryburrows on Sept 5, 2019 16:58:52 GMT
Thank you, neworleans! One aims to help! (You see the Empire State Bldg quite often in films or on the news, and I always think it's a bit of a thrill to think 'I've actually been up that'.) I totally agree with you about the horse-drawn carriages - we didn't go in one and I always feel for the horses in such places - we did the open-top double-decker bus tour and did it at night. We were so lucky with the weather, because despite it being late December the temp at night was sth like 57 degrees (it was lit up on the top of some tall building) and was a perfect night-time temp for doing a tour....... "and that doorway is where John Lennon was shot" etc. etc. One thing about the Staten Island ferry - the seats were all wooden and looked really old - pretty ancient, in fact - but no problem at all with that, and it all looked so cute, etc................. but then I suddenly clapped eyes on all the folded-up inflatable lifejackets, which I think were stowed above the seats - and felt very unsettled as it had simply never occurred to me that the thing might possibly SINK! And the water was VERY choppy! Thankfully we got across in one piece, though! (Are we allowed to ask about your New Orleans name if you're in New York? I have some lovely friends in Minnesota and their two sons are both Doctors in New Orleans.) No, I'm tempted, but I'm not going to say 'Have a nice day'! Oh, bugger. great to read of your NY adventures MTS and thankfully your trip on the SIF did not end in a remake of the Titanic! You really seemed to have figured out how best to visit which is to live as much as you can as a local - taking the subway, taxis etc. and just enjoying the atmosphere. I've lived here for almost 10 years and there are still parts of the city I have not visited. I mostly work from home (UES) and I also have a desk in the Wall St area but only go into the office every couple of weeks or so. The username was created back in the early 2000's when we were on the old board - whatever that was called! At that time I was living in New Orleans hence the name. I was there for about 8 years but it's still really my US "home"... most of my closest friends are still there and actually many are also Dr's! Folks on this board were really supportive when we went through Katrina which was both the best and worst of times. All the best mate... Spent a few months in New Orleans back in 1985 , helping with the opening of the iberville hotel on iberville st . It was a very tough opening for lots of reasons . Worked very hard to get it up and running but had a lot of fun and lots of good food .
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2019 19:39:34 GMT
Don't go in January like i did, i stayed the Radisson in Lexington Avenue, it has a Club underneath..nothing wrong with that however & i found people friendly.
But i thought it gets cold here, so i had a couple of jumpers with me, but i like the cold tbf...But jesus i decided to walk to the Empire Estate & my lips were numb after a few minutes what with the wind & the skyscrapers acting like a wind tunnel..it was terrible...
Maybe i'll go back in the Summer
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Post by murphthesurf on Sept 6, 2019 9:59:49 GMT
You're very welcome - and - oh, sorry, I didn't realise you'd already been there. You're right - 4 days wouldn't be enough, so I'm not surprised you want to go back. No worries its been a while so need a refresh anyway! Yeah not long enough to be honest but still amazing experience, we're just going go out early come back late at night I think thats the way to do it. I think it would be good see some snow there to well its all decorated for Christmas but not too much! Drez, don't know if this link will be of any interest or use to you - found it by accident yesterday - this is what it says: 'Plan Your New York Trip'
Visiting New York for the first time can be a life changing experience. It’s a good idea to familiarize yourself with your local transit routes and sightseeing bus stops so that the beginning of each day of discovery won’t start with a panic to find where to begin. Your Free PDF Resources • New York Subway Map • NYC Hop on Hop off Bus Map • NYC Attraction Map • 250 page NYC Guidebook www.sightseeingpass.com/en/new-york/maps-guides?aid=118&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7ZvL3La65AIVg-HVCh3nUgAbEAEYASAAEgIVNfD_BwE
See what you think! Murph
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Post by murphthesurf on Sept 6, 2019 10:07:25 GMT
You're very welcome - and - oh, sorry, I didn't realise you'd already been there. You're right - 4 days wouldn't be enough, so I'm not surprised you want to go back. No worries its been a while so need a refresh anyway! Yeah not long enough to be honest but still amazing experience, we're just going go out early come back late at night I think thats the way to do it. I think it would be good see some snow there to well its all decorated for Christmas but not too much!You have to be careful what you wish for with the weather! NY is not too far from Washington DC and my friend who lives very near there often tells me about the extremes of weather they have from time to time.......... ......... eg. three or four (or more!) feet of snow falling in one day.
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Post by Dresden_scfc on Sept 6, 2019 10:21:53 GMT
No worries its been a while so need a refresh anyway! Yeah not long enough to be honest but still amazing experience, we're just going go out early come back late at night I think thats the way to do it. I think it would be good see some snow there to well its all decorated for Christmas but not too much!You have to be careful what you wish for with the weather! NY is not too far from Washington DC and my friend who lives very near there often tells me about the extremes of weather they have from time to time.......... ......... eg. three or four (or more!) feet of snow falling in one day. That's all very helpful thank you! I know when it snows you know about it and would be very hard to get around and our snow is nothing compared to over there!
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Post by murphthesurf on Sept 6, 2019 10:25:57 GMT
You have to be careful what you wish for with the weather! NY is not too far from Washington DC and my friend who lives very near there often tells me about the extremes of weather they have from time to time.......... ......... eg. three or four (or more!) feet of snow falling in one day. That's all very helpful thank you! I know when it snows you know about it and would be very hard to get around and our snow is nothing compared to over there! Yep! Half an inch of the stuff over here, all the schools close and the whole country shuts down!
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Post by murphthesurf on Sept 6, 2019 10:49:08 GMT
Thank you, neworleans! One aims to help! (You see the Empire State Bldg quite often in films or on the news, and I always think it's a bit of a thrill to think 'I've actually been up that'.) I totally agree with you about the horse-drawn carriages - we didn't go in one and I always feel for the horses in such places - we did the open-top double-decker bus tour and did it at night. We were so lucky with the weather, because despite it being late December the temp at night was sth like 57 degrees (it was lit up on the top of some tall building) and was a perfect night-time temp for doing a tour....... "and that doorway is where John Lennon was shot" etc. etc. One thing about the Staten Island ferry - the seats were all wooden and looked really old - pretty ancient, in fact - but no problem at all with that, and it all looked so cute, etc................. but then I suddenly clapped eyes on all the folded-up inflatable lifejackets, which I think were stowed above the seats - and felt very unsettled as it had simply never occurred to me that the thing might possibly SINK! And the water was VERY choppy! Thankfully we got across in one piece, though! (Are we allowed to ask about your New Orleans name if you're in New York? I have some lovely friends in Minnesota and their two sons are both Doctors in New Orleans.) No, I'm tempted, but I'm not going to say 'Have a nice day'! Oh, bugger. great to read of your NY adventures MTS and thankfully your trip on the SIF did not end in a remake of the Titanic! You really seemed to have figured out how best to visit which is to live as much as you can as a local - taking the subway, taxis etc. and just enjoying the atmosphere. I've lived here for almost 10 years and there are still parts of the city I have not visited. I mostly work from home (UES) and I also have a desk in the Wall St area but only go into the office every couple of weeks or so. The username was created back in the early 2000's when we were on the old board - whatever that was called! At that time I was living in New Orleans hence the name. I was there for about 8 years but it's still really my US "home"... most of my closest friends are still there and actually many are also Dr's! Folks on this board were really supportive when we went through Katrina which was both the best and worst of times. All the best mate... Fabulous post.
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Post by Dresden_scfc on Sept 6, 2019 20:39:01 GMT
That's all very helpful thank you! I know when it snows you know about it and would be very hard to get around and our snow is nothing compared to over there! Yep! Half an inch of the stuff over here, all the schools close and the whole country shuts down! Yeah it's pathetic and embarrassing!
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Post by murphthesurf on Sept 6, 2019 20:43:21 GMT
Yep! Half an inch of the stuff over here, all the schools close and the whole country shuts down! Yeah it's pathetic and embarrassing! My very dear friends near Washington DC have four huge dogs including two Newfoundlands and they say walking them in 4 feet of snow isn't easy!
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Post by Dresden_scfc on Sept 7, 2019 5:05:02 GMT
Yeah it's pathetic and embarrassing! My very dear friends near Washington DC have four huge dogs including two Newfoundlands and they say walking them in 4 feet of snow isn't easy! That would be challenging, great looking dogs though!
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Post by murphthesurf on Sept 15, 2019 20:09:06 GMT
Evenin' Drez, evenin' folks: re. our previous mentions about Grand Central Station………… Just wondering if anyone saw the Tony Robinson TV prog 'Around the World by Train' on C5 last night, 8-10pm? This was part 2 of 2 (#1 last Saturday) and both shows were excellent. The reason I'm posting this note is that the last 20-30 minutes or so of the prog last night featured New York, and spent quite a bit of time in/about Grand Central Station……. so if you missed it you might want to have a look-see on catch-up TV. See how I think of you! Still off the juice, btw.
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