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Post by maninasuitcase on Aug 14, 2019 1:33:14 GMT
Surely when we fine tune our shooting boots, someone is gonna be on the end of a good pasting, cos we seem pretty close to getting it right at last.
Just hope we can start with the sheepshaggers on saturday.
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 14, 2019 3:20:00 GMT
Another similarity with 89/90. We were saying that until December. The pasting we gave out was at Brighton when it was too late.
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Post by wuzza on Aug 14, 2019 4:58:18 GMT
Yep heard all that before. I’d settle for a 1-0 against a half decent Derby side before we go all fantasy league.
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Post by baltipiesmuggler on Aug 14, 2019 6:11:16 GMT
Yep heard all that before. I’d settle for a 1-0 against a half decent Derby side before we go all fantasy league. A win by any means in the next couple and I'd be ecstatic. Both very tough games. My concern is whether NJ will stick with the 352 that clearly worked much better for us, or whether he'll revert to type and opt for the same diamond or try and shoehorn Allen back in.
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Post by wuzza on Aug 14, 2019 6:14:00 GMT
Yep heard all that before. I’d settle for a 1-0 against a half decent Derby side before we go all fantasy league. A win by any means in the next couple and I'd be ecstatic. Both very tough games. My concern is whether NJ will stick with the 352 that clearly worked much better for us, or whether he'll revert to type and opt for the same diamond or try and shoehorn Allen back in. Welcome as it was last night’s win doesn’t really resolve much about Saturday either in terms of personnel or tactics.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 14, 2019 6:14:52 GMT
We’ve been saying this for about a decade now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 6:25:54 GMT
Nobody is in for a pasting if we can't convert 24 shots on goal to more than 6 on target, and into more than 1 goal.
Baby steps though. It's a long time since I've seen a Stoke side have that many goal attempts in a game. It wasn't so long ago that it was taking half a season to have that many goal attempts!
Let's hope that the first win last night has calmed everyone down and that the players now go into the weekend with a monkey off their backs.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Aug 14, 2019 6:31:46 GMT
We’ve been saying this for about a decade now. Others yes, you? .... oh you mean stoke in for a pasting? 🤭
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Post by berahinosgoals on Aug 14, 2019 6:33:29 GMT
There will be a few pastings handed out this season if we start games like we did v Charlton. When we start hitting the target which we will a lot of teams in this league won't be able to live with that football at that pace, a few will fold.
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Post by Goonie on Aug 14, 2019 6:36:01 GMT
I can envisage a Keegan-esque scenario where we score 5 but concede 4 coming up in a 'we'll score one more than you' game
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 6:40:34 GMT
Yep heard all that before. I’d settle for a 1-0 against a half decent Derby side before we go all fantasy league. A win by any means in the next couple and I'd be ecstatic. Both very tough games. My concern is whether NJ will stick with the 352 that clearly worked much better for us, or whether he'll revert to type and opt for the same diamond or try and shoehorn Allen back in. Genuine question for anyone who was there/somehow watched the game on a stream - did the 352 really work much better for us than the 41212 we played for 60 mins or so on Saturday? I appreciate it's difficult to judge - a league game away v a first-round cup game against a team that made 10 changes - but interested to know people's thoughts.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 14, 2019 6:50:46 GMT
We’ve been saying this for about a decade now. Others yes, you? .... oh you mean stoke in for a pasting? 🤭 Not at all. A pretty lazy observation. But it is something that’s been said for ages and generally doesn’t happen.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 7:04:26 GMT
A win by any means in the next couple and I'd be ecstatic. Both very tough games. My concern is whether NJ will stick with the 352 that clearly worked much better for us, or whether he'll revert to type and opt for the same diamond or try and shoehorn Allen back in. Genuine question for anyone who was there/somehow watched the game on a stream - did the 352 really work much better for us than the 41212 we played for 60 mins or so on Saturday? I appreciate it's difficult to judge - a league game away v a first-round cup game against a team that made 10 changes - but interested to know people's thoughts. It wasn't a 352 according to Jones in his interview on the OS. It was a 3 diamond 1 instead of a 4 diamond 2.
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Post by nott1 on Aug 14, 2019 7:08:31 GMT
We’ve been saying this for about a decade now. 6-1 Liverpool?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 14, 2019 7:10:22 GMT
We’ve been saying this for about a decade now. 6-1 Liverpool? It occasionally happened yeah. But it’s hardly been a consistent thing has it? Even looking like we’re dangerous. When we were at our best we’d get that for about a month. But in that time, we’ve always been pretty shit at shooting.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 7:12:39 GMT
Genuine question for anyone who was there/somehow watched the game on a stream - did the 352 really work much better for us than the 41212 we played for 60 mins or so on Saturday? I appreciate it's difficult to judge - a league game away v a first-round cup game against a team that made 10 changes - but interested to know people's thoughts. It wasn't a 352 according to Jones in his interview on the OS. It was a 3 diamond 1 instead of a 4 diamond 2. Right. That’s what he meant all along. A diamond with with two dots slightly behind at either side 😉
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 7:13:41 GMT
Genuine question for anyone who was there/somehow watched the game on a stream - did the 352 really work much better for us than the 41212 we played for 60 mins or so on Saturday? I appreciate it's difficult to judge - a league game away v a first-round cup game against a team that made 10 changes - but interested to know people's thoughts. It wasn't a 352 according to Jones in his interview on the OS. It was a 3 diamond 1 instead of a 4 diamond 2. So, did having 3 at the back and just 1 striker 'work much better for us' than 41212?
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Post by Davef on Aug 14, 2019 7:14:47 GMT
If you'd seen the shooting practice before the game, you'd realise fully why we struggle to score goals.
Scott Hogan was worryingly bad.
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Post by franklin66 on Aug 14, 2019 7:25:56 GMT
If people can't see the difference then I can only think it's because they don't want to. There are positive signs all over the pitch.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 14, 2019 7:26:05 GMT
If you'd seen the shooting practice before the game, you'd realise fully why we struggle to score goals. Scott Hogan was worryingly bad. Ive said for years that the clubs best paid employee should be the ball boy at the training ground. He must cover miles collecting balls in
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Post by linfitstokie on Aug 14, 2019 8:12:57 GMT
If we could get a early goal and start fast like we have been someone going to get it bigtiime,it has been said before i know
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Post by thehoof on Aug 14, 2019 8:16:56 GMT
There will be a few pastings handed out this season if we start games like we did v Charlton. When we start hitting the target which we will a lot of teams in this league won't be able to live with that football at that pace, a few will fold. 13 games to go! Hopefully it’s Derby!
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Post by serpico on Aug 14, 2019 8:26:56 GMT
They’re obviously under orders to get more shots off after the qpr game, we had 24 last night, 6 of them were on target and we scored 1, hopefully accuracy improves otherwise the only people in for a pasting are the fans sat behind the goal 🙂
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Post by Northy on Aug 14, 2019 8:29:28 GMT
Yep heard all that before. I’d settle for a 1-0 against a half decent Derby side before we go all fantasy league. A win by any means in the next couple and I'd be ecstatic. Both very tough games. My concern is whether NJ will stick with the 352 that clearly worked much better for us, or whether he'll revert to type and opt for the same diamond or try and shoehorn Allen back in. wasn't it 5-4-1, he said in his interview he went with 3 at the back, wing backs, a diamond and 1 up top ?
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Post by owdestokie2 on Aug 14, 2019 8:32:20 GMT
I’ll settle for the next 44 games to be 1-0
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Post by serpico on Aug 14, 2019 8:48:41 GMT
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Post by Rt Hon Reverend Luvpump on Aug 14, 2019 9:06:21 GMT
Seem to remember Carl Saunders not been able to score, then the manager had him in for shooting practice and he went on a real scoring run,and there’s stein too it wasn’t until he came back the second time her started scoring 😉
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Post by Bagwash on Aug 14, 2019 9:34:43 GMT
At the moment a 2-0/3-1 victory would class as a pasting!
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Post by nott1 on Aug 14, 2019 9:38:19 GMT
The more you see the less you can understand the failure to sign Gayle! We are not scoring because we don't have a decent striker and are relying on second rate players to do the job.False economy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 9:45:28 GMT
Dont want to dampen the upbeat feel but, you have to take into account the opposition quality, tactics etc too....its not just about us.
Still nice to win tho 🤪
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