Rate Jones v Charlton

[mermaidsal]

We played better than today's scoreline and the stats say so too. I honestly can't tell yet whether that's about: a) new squad bedding in, b) lack of quality out there on the pitch, c) poor management, failing to think the game better than the bloke in the other dugout. A combination of all three probably. I so want it to be mainly a) but I'm not convinced, tell you in 4 or 5 weeks...

For today, 5 from me


add * if you were there please

[wallros]

10/10 - jones in. dickhead fans out

[datguy]

1

Excellent for 70-75 mins. Butland howler cost us in the first half but the changes he made to the team looked positive.

Gets a 1 purely because of that substitution. Batshit cr..

[citynickscfc]

Aug 10, 2019 16:01:01 GMT wallros said:

10/10 - jones in. dickhead fans out

What exactly did he get right? I would take a battering and resilient defensive victory 1-0 over 3-1 and "playing well". What part of 3-1 is playing well?

4 from me. Made changes but couldn't deliver and didn't attend to and get counted when it mattered. He's still our lowest scoring manager of all time and if be surprised if his record wasn't the worst of all time

[Deleted]

I don’t even know what to make of this any more. You can’t play Allen as a DM. Needed to change formation to make those subs.

[viewfromthecrowsnest]

5 for team selection
2 for decent 75 minutes
-3 for taking off Woods to screw up defence
-2 for taking off Gregory to screw up attack
-1 for the result
So that is a 1 for me.

I would have thought taking off the best performers is the least successful course of action; and NJ proved this simple theory today.

[terryconroysmagic]

6 can see enough improvement, Hogan and Gregory look like a very good pair.

[Clayton Wood]

10. Not his fault. God has not been willing.

[supacoopa101]

6/10 i think is a fair score. We played well but only for 70 mins and didnt take our chances.

+ Team performance was much improved
+ Starting Hogan and Gregory which made us more dynamic
+ Woods underrated contribution


- Duffy sub was needless
- Should have kept the diamond not gone 4231


He can't help that the players didnt take their chances.

I believe it will click soon. We have to show faith in Jones.

[jeycov]

Agree with the criteria highlighted here

+7 for team selection
+7 for decent 75 minutes
-4 for taking off Woods to screw up defence (he was working well with Allen)
-3 for taking off Gregory to screw up attack (o one strong enough to hold up the ball)
-3 for the result
So that is a +4 for me.

not good enough

Gutted - watched it live stream

I would have thought taking off the best performers is the least successful course of action; and NJ proved this simple theory today.

Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/289441/rate-jones-charlton#ixzz5wDQYsGGv

[Deleted]

Aug 10, 2019 16:01:01 GMT wallros said:

10/10 - jones in. dickhead fans out

[borat]

I'm on the fence but people saying 10 or 1 are mentally challenged. A fair 6 for the changes but we lost 3-1 at the end of the day.

[spitthedog]

4

He loses 3 points for keeping Joe Allen on the pitch.

Should have left Woods on and took Allen off

[serpico]

We could easily have won that 1-3 as lose it 3-1.

6

[boskampsflaps]

5, he made us look great with his team first half, fucked it with the subs second.

[boskampsflaps]

Aug 10, 2019 16:14:04 GMT viewfromthecrowsnest said:

5 for team selection
2 for decent 75 minutes
-3 for taking off Woods to screw up defence
-2 for taking off Gregory to screw up attack
-1 for the result
So that is a 1 for me.

I would have thought taking off the best performers is the least successful course of action; and NJ proved this simple theory today.

Are they fit to last the 90 yet?

[viewfromthecrowsnest]

Aug 10, 2019 16:28:34 GMT boskampsflaps said:

Aug 10, 2019 16:14:04 GMT viewfromthecrowsnest said:

5 for team selection
2 for decent 75 minutes
-3 for taking off Woods to screw up defence
-2 for taking off Gregory to screw up attack
-1 for the result
So that is a 1 for me.

I would have thought taking off the best performers is the least successful course of action; and NJ proved this simple theory today.

Are they fit to last the 90 yet?

I don’t see any reason why not.

[tejstokie]

7 was great starting lineup. Better side throughout and unlucky as ever. -3 for subbing Duffy for woods instead of Allen.

[berahinosgoals]

8.

Great start, team thoroughly motivated for the quick start, (them quick starts are a joy to watch)line up was right we were just unlucky today. Only reason jones doesnt get a 10 from me is he probably (imo) made too many subs that halted our rhythm.Should have carried on how we were for me we were playing well

[wrighter]

7
Think Davies should be given a game, seems Jack has lost his confidence

[cousindupree]

6 much improved from last week and he picked the right two up front. But once again his inexperience and naivety showed in his dumb ass substitutions.
I sincerely hope he is being critical of himself and learning from his mistakes otherwise he will never progress as a manager.

[danceswithclams]

3*

6 changes was bold but taking Woods off was negligent.

Slowly beginning to think he's making it up as he goes along.

[bornscfcdiescfc]

Aug 10, 2019 16:01:01 GMT wallros said:

10/10 - jones in. dickhead fans out

10/10 for a manager who has won 3 out of 23 and a game we lost 1-3 ..who is the dickhead fan or are you his wife

[leicspotter]

5* surprising starting 11, but it turned out pretty good...for a while. Even Ward looked OK, and I really worry about him

At 1-1 I genuinely thought we looked likely winners, but the missed chances hurt us.

Duffy's first 2 touches were brilliant and I was getting quite excited, then he made his 3rd change, switched Duffy inside, and the lad disappeared...why not play him in his best position?

I also felt it should have been Allen for Duffy, not Woods, although match fitness might be a factor

Much improved performance, but the disruption to the team balance, albeit for a seemingly positive reason, ultimately caused our downfall

[AlbertTatlock]

3 another debacle in front of our goal and all the back 4 are his signings, subs turned out to be the wrong choice and never mind Allen how the fuck does Clucas stay on the pitch never mind keep getting picked week in week out.

You're starting to walk on thin ice Jones with some supporters patience already wearing thin.

Gouranga.

[StokeTudoGuy]

Aug 10, 2019 16:18:06 GMT jeycov said:

Agree with the criteria highlighted here

+7 for team selection
+7 for decent 75 minutes
-4 for taking off Woods to screw up defence (he was working well with Allen)
-3 for taking off Gregory to screw up attack (o one strong enough to hold up the ball)
-3 for the result
So that is a +4 for me.

not good enough

Gutted - watched it live stream

I would have thought taking off the best performers is the least successful course of action; and NJ proved this simple theory today.

Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/289441/rate-jones-charlton#ixzz5wDQYsGGv

Agree entirely if only you change Allen for Clucas in the ‘working well with’ bit

[tony1234]

5/10. He set up the team well. The team came out un-ready to adapt to Charlton stepping up in the second half. His changes were then poor - Woods being the worst of them, and Duffy not being far off.

[jontimmis]

We lost 3-1......

We keep losing and that’s a fact.


Why do we keep blaming our fans the losses have nothing to do with the fans that’s to do with the players/coaching staff.... who Byrne way are paid milllllllliooooooonnnnnnnsssssss dont forget that....

[roylandstoke]

Feeling very generous : 3.

[Gary Hackett]

4

Pleased he played Woods instead of Cousins and that he had the balls to change the top 2 as they were so ineffective against QPR.

BUT

The subs were absolutely abysmal, taking off Woods and Gregory just totally changed the game..

If Hogan scores more than 8 goals this season I'll he amazed.