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Joe Allen
Aug 17, 2019 16:40:36 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2019 16:40:36 GMT
Absolutely woeful.
He’s a liability. Must have a “if fit you play” clause in his contract.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 17, 2019 16:46:11 GMT
3 games, 3 poor performances. Highlight getting done by the Aircraft Carrier that is Tom Huddlestone for this first goal. Ryan Woods does everything that people think Joe Allen provides. Only positive moment was his press for the Ince shot that hit the bar. Awful miss too, atm he’s the weak link.
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Joe Allen
Aug 17, 2019 16:46:36 GMT
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Post by wrexhamstokie90 on Aug 17, 2019 16:46:36 GMT
I’ve always stuck up for Joe however today wow... he was abysmal. First half when he managed to pass it to a derby shirt 3 times on the bounce was something else Yeah and the one where it was wide open switch to macca and he ballooned it out of play he can’t make passes unless it’s 5 yards
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 17, 2019 16:47:31 GMT
The diamond won’t work as long as Allen is part of it. Sooner Etebo replaces him the better. The diamond can start to flourish then When he briefly featured in it last season we had exactly the same problem, the guy’s got endless stamina but I’ve never seen anyone use it to such limited effect.
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Post by andystokey on Aug 17, 2019 16:48:09 GMT
The right side needs sorting. Edwards and Etebo should both be walking into this team instead of Smith and Allen.
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 17, 2019 16:52:55 GMT
For 30-35 minutes Allen was awful today, but he improved after that, not impressive but linked well keeping our attacks flowing.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 17, 2019 16:54:23 GMT
For 30-35 minutes Allen was awful today, but he improved after that, not impressive but linked well keeping our attacks flowing. He literally gets caught for both goals and missed a sitter. Woods and Clucas were streets ahead of him in every department. If he’s not dropped after that he never will be.
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Post by DC1863 on Aug 17, 2019 16:55:52 GMT
If not dropping Joe needs an extended rest because that's three pretty poor performances in a row.
Etebo and Edwards in for me against Preston.
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Post by tesco on Aug 17, 2019 17:05:40 GMT
Absolutely woeful. He’s a liability. Must have a “if fit you play” clause in his contract. Yeah, because that's the sort of thing players really have in their contracts
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 17, 2019 17:07:13 GMT
For 30-35 minutes Allen was awful today, but he improved after that, not impressive but linked well keeping our attacks flowing. He literally gets caught for both goals and missed a sitter. Woods and Clucas were streets ahead of him in every department. If he’s not dropped after that he never will be. It's a bit unfair to blame him for the 2nd goal. They were attacking on the counter and it got a bit desperate, he did well to get in there to try and win the ball. The faults were elsewhere leading up to that point.
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Joe Allen
Aug 17, 2019 17:09:42 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2019 17:09:42 GMT
Absolutely woeful. He’s a liability. Must have a “if fit you play” clause in his contract. Yeah, because that's the sort of thing players really have in their contracts Well there’s no other reason he should be picked. He’s woeful. Can’t defend, can’t tackle, can’t pass and can’t shoot. He’s a liability and costing us point after point. And for what it’s worth, it’s exactly the sort of things players have in their contracts.
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Post by tesco on Aug 17, 2019 17:12:50 GMT
Yeah, because that's the sort of thing players really have in their contracts Well there’s no other reason he should be picked. He’s woeful. Can’t defend, can’t tackle, can’t pass and can’t shoot. He’s a liability and costing us point after point. And for what it’s worth, it’s exactly the sort of things players have in their contracts. Bullshit! Name one player and say how you know. Go on. But you can't can you? Fucking bullshit.
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Post by potterpaul on Aug 17, 2019 17:13:51 GMT
Fucking nailed on for next game with Clucas injury.
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Post by Block 22 on Aug 17, 2019 17:14:22 GMT
Joe Allen was quite literally the difference between drawing 2-2 and winning 3-1 today. He was a farce for their first letting Huddersfield run through the middle, then he pings the post when it’s harder to miss than to score from 2 yards out.
The sooner we stop picking him on his reputation (3years ago) the better.
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Joe Allen
Aug 17, 2019 17:17:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2019 17:17:22 GMT
I can only assume Allen’s inclusion is because Etebo isn’t quite refreshed enough for a full 90 mins yet and is better suited giving what he can against tired defenders rather than starting and being subbed ?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 17, 2019 17:20:38 GMT
Joe Allen was quite literally the difference between drawing 2-2 and winning 3-1 today. He was a farce for their first letting Huddersfield run through the middle, then he pings the post when it’s harder to miss than to score from 2 yards out. The sooner we stop picking him on his reputation (3years ago) the better. He seemed a long way behind the man for their chance at 3-2 too.
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Joe Allen
Aug 17, 2019 17:22:13 GMT
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 17, 2019 17:22:13 GMT
He literally gets caught for both goals and missed a sitter. Woods and Clucas were streets ahead of him in every department. If he’s not dropped after that he never will be. It's a bit unfair to blame him for the 2nd goal. They were attacking on the counter and it got a bit desperate, he did well to get in there to try and win the ball. The faults were elsewhere leading up to that point. Wrong side of the runner again in the channel. We can keep making excuses for him or we can face the facts that he needs dropping because his form is dipping alarmingly.
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Joe Allen
Aug 17, 2019 17:23:54 GMT
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Post by jarhead on Aug 17, 2019 17:23:54 GMT
Absolutely atrocious AGAIN!
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Post by tejstokie on Aug 17, 2019 17:24:48 GMT
It's a bit unfair to blame him for the 2nd goal. They were attacking on the counter and it got a bit desperate, he did well to get in there to try and win the ball. The faults were elsewhere leading up to that point. Wrong side of the runner again in the channel. We can keep making excuses for him or we can face the facts that he needs dropping because his form is dipping alarmingly. I agree. If anyone on here can't see it you either are in total complete denial of the truth or don't want what is best for the club. One or the other. He needs dropping. He is in an absolite horrid form for a while now. He literally passed it to three derby players in a row today. No excuses.
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Joe Allen
Aug 17, 2019 17:25:32 GMT
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Post by Cast no shadow on Aug 17, 2019 17:25:32 GMT
Etebo in for clucas next game.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Aug 17, 2019 17:30:30 GMT
Looks like he's the new Whipping boy then......Jesus!!! 🙄
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 17, 2019 17:30:40 GMT
It's a bit unfair to blame him for the 2nd goal. They were attacking on the counter and it got a bit desperate, he did well to get in there to try and win the ball. The faults were elsewhere leading up to that point. Wrong side of the runner again in the channel. We can keep making excuses for him or we can face the facts that he needs dropping because his form is dipping alarmingly. I would drop him, he is clearly out of form. I am not making excuses for him, it was just a shit situation. They all switched off and we got caught.
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Joe Allen
Aug 17, 2019 17:35:23 GMT
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 17, 2019 17:35:23 GMT
I can only assume Allen’s inclusion is because Etebo isn’t quite refreshed enough for a full 90 mins yet and is better suited giving what he can against tired defenders rather than starting and being subbed ? I would have thought that the opposite would make more sense. I would start with Etebo any day of the week, and I have stuck up for Allen quite a bit, previously.
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Joe Allen
Aug 17, 2019 17:37:59 GMT
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 17, 2019 17:37:59 GMT
Looks like he's the new Whipping boy then......Jesus!!! 🙄 What criticism isn’t valid today?
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Joe Allen
Aug 17, 2019 17:38:51 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2019 17:38:51 GMT
Well there’s no other reason he should be picked. He’s woeful. Can’t defend, can’t tackle, can’t pass and can’t shoot. He’s a liability and costing us point after point. And for what it’s worth, it’s exactly the sort of things players have in their contracts. Bullshit! Name one player and say how you know. Go on. But you can't can you? Fucking bullshit. Chelsea only allowed us to take MVG on loan because we guaranteed he played a certain amount of games. So, no, it’s not fucking bullshit.
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Post by tesco on Aug 17, 2019 17:43:23 GMT
Bullshit! Name one player and say how you know. Go on. But you can't can you? Fucking bullshit. Chelsea only allowed us to take MVG on loan because we guaranteed he played a certain amount of games. So, no, it’s not fucking bullshit. Even if that were true, it's hardly comparable with Allen who's a permanent signing. How many permanent signings would have that in their contract? None whatsoever.
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Post by jeycov on Aug 17, 2019 17:43:51 GMT
Fucking nailed on for next game with Clucas injury. Indeed
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 17, 2019 17:44:02 GMT
Looks like he's the new Whipping boy then......Jesus!!! 🙄 Not really, he's been poor for a while now, its fair comment.
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Post by davelistersdad on Aug 17, 2019 17:47:00 GMT
I've been banging on about Allen since last season but fucking hell Jones, he is absolutely shit.
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Post by serpico on Aug 17, 2019 17:53:29 GMT
In his defence that chance did come at him pretty quickly.
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