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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Aug 10, 2019 14:59:20 GMT
If we still had Lee Grant, I'd say drop him for sure!!!
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Post by stavangerpotter81 on Aug 10, 2019 15:00:04 GMT
He's made 2 mistakes, he's still our best keeper. We're a championship team, stop expecting world beating players. That's a great attitude. Stop expecting it. Settle for second best. Bet you're a success!!! I would put my money on the one that doesn't resort to that!
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Post by onionman on Aug 10, 2019 15:00:44 GMT
I don’t think he’s playing deliberately badly but how embarrassing for a professional footballer that it’s even being considered as a possibility.
Both his howlers this season have been down to brain failures which is inexcusable.
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Post by franklin66 on Aug 10, 2019 15:01:48 GMT
He does need dropping but not for Federici Davies for me.
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Post by dioufsboots on Aug 10, 2019 15:02:00 GMT
Really wish that swap and cash with begovic would of happened,would do anything have bego in goal for rest of the season just hope davies can step up
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Post by numberounominion on Aug 10, 2019 15:02:08 GMT
I’d actually disagree these errors started in the premier league Leicester away , bournemouth away cost us points and it’s carried on , I think the great Ric might have twatted him fur this one given he was moaning at his defenders who must have thought fuck you butter fingers I am quite confident it wasn't Butland that was the main reason for relegation nor was it him last year for the fact we were so shit. I am quite confident we were relegated because ...Charlie adam missed a penalty v brighton and jack butland threw the ball into his own net v Leicester Fine margins made a big difference .
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Post by stavangerpotter81 on Aug 10, 2019 15:04:02 GMT
I am quite confident it wasn't Butland that was the main reason for relegation nor was it him last year for the fact we were so shit. I am quite confident we were relegated because ...Charlie adam missed a penalty v brighton and jack butland threw the ball into his own net v Leicester Fine margins made a big difference .
We were relegated due to the whole season not a couple of errors which you highlight but if you feel the need to place blame then go for it.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 10, 2019 15:04:08 GMT
I’d actually disagree these errors started in the premier league Leicester away , bournemouth away cost us points and it’s carried on , I think the great Ric might have twatted him fur this one given he was moaning at his defenders who must have thought fuck you butter fingers I am quite confident it wasn't Butland that was the main reason for relegation nor was it him last year for the fact we were so shit. Didn’t say either just that his contribution was not particularly positive either , he’s never been the same since his injury but now it’s about his mentality
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Post by stavangerpotter81 on Aug 10, 2019 15:05:57 GMT
There’s a reason he’s still here, his regression is clear to see. is he still not England no.2?
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Post by Goonie on Aug 10, 2019 15:06:09 GMT
Federici should start next game. Butland is shite. I'd give davies a run out
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 10, 2019 15:06:59 GMT
He's badly struggling for confidence. No great surprise really, playing in a relegated awful team, axed as England no.1 and no interest from Premier league in the close season. He is still an excellent keeper though and without doubt the best in this league. He will come good, just lacking confidence at the moment.
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Post by stavangerpotter81 on Aug 10, 2019 15:07:39 GMT
He's badly struggling for confidence. No great surprise really, playing in a relegated awful team, axed as England no.1 and no interest from Premier league in the close season. He is still an excellent keeper though and without doubt the best in this league. He will come good, just lacking confidence at the moment. It's so nice with some common sense
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 10, 2019 15:08:21 GMT
He’s been doing this for 2 years now. and he has still saved us far more than he has messed up Kind of the bare minimum requirement for any goalkeeper isn't it
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 15:12:53 GMT
He's made 2 mistakes, he's still our best keeper. We're a championship team, stop expecting world beating players. People have memories like goldfishes on this board! I genuinely can’t remember when Jack last had a great game.
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Post by danceswithclams on Aug 10, 2019 15:17:50 GMT
I'm at the game so only saw it in realtime but it looked as though he was unsighted (plus it is incredibly windy here).
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Post by chicagostokie on Aug 10, 2019 15:22:22 GMT
Why don't you watch the game instead of spending the time moaning about our players.
By the way, Butland just saved us with a good save.
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Post by sportsman on Aug 10, 2019 15:31:03 GMT
Hes a keeper that always plays on his heels. I've said that for years on here. If you watch his, he's never on his toes. He plants his feet, stays still, then reacts.
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Post by numberounominion on Aug 10, 2019 15:31:51 GMT
I am quite confident we were relegated because ...Charlie adam missed a penalty v brighton and jack butland threw the ball into his own net v Leicester Fine margins made a big difference .
We were relegated due to the whole season not a couple of errors which you highlight but if you feel the need to place blame then go for it. I am simply saying he played his part
He's a terrific shot stopper ,but he has errors in him, such as a) the odd howler ...which can happen to the best and B) much more annoying , and definitely making him a less reliable keeper, than lee grant , tommy Sorensen, simo, crossley , southall etc , a distinct habit of staying on his line when a corner kick comes flying across his six yard box
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Post by whakka on Aug 10, 2019 15:43:01 GMT
Him and joe allen are due a rest
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Post by PotteringThrough on Aug 10, 2019 15:57:44 GMT
I don’t think he’s playing deliberately badly but how embarrassing for a professional footballer that it’s even being considered as a possibility. Both his howlers this season have been down to brain failures which is inexcusable. It's doing the unthinkable for me... ... But it needs doing. Everyone else is playing for their place, no one is safe. Butland is a quality keeper but he's having a not so great patch. Probably been a lot of talk with him this week and he's had a few distractions. Break might do him good.
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Post by andystokey on Aug 10, 2019 16:11:26 GMT
I don't see the point of 2 players for every position if you aren't going to enforce it. I accept that GKs get special treatment but everyone else last week go changed around. He can't carry on with chocolate hands and poor decision making.
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Post by sealion100 on Aug 10, 2019 16:11:35 GMT
Totally agree good performance undermined by bad keeping Thought their second went right through him as well .. that said we need to take our chances at the other end
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Post by bloodtypered on Aug 10, 2019 16:11:48 GMT
Didnt make a save today....i think they only had 3 shots
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Post by Macko on Aug 10, 2019 16:14:46 GMT
Its twice in the first ten minutes he has gifted a goal, I think give Davies a game on Tuesday and if he does ok he stays in for next weekend
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 16:22:48 GMT
Butland is a big part of the problem, he needs dropping even if it drops his resale value.
Mind you keeping on playing him is reducing his resale value plus holding the whole team down to.
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Post by dastokie on Aug 10, 2019 16:31:35 GMT
Seems like Shilton syndrome.
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Post by tejstokie on Aug 10, 2019 16:43:43 GMT
I'd take a fee for him and Allen both in January from prem clubs to rebuild. Terrible form lately.
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Post by tomcmod on Aug 10, 2019 17:06:58 GMT
Smith moving his whole body out of the way of the ball didn't help, why has he done that? Butland was fuming at Smith and Smiths face said it all, he knew he shouldn't have moved. Then having your own supporters shouting abuse at you whilst the game goes on. Imagine not thinking some of our fan base are brain dead cavemen!! His long pass forward to Gregory lead to our first goal too.
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Post by Northy on Aug 10, 2019 17:34:48 GMT
Federici should start next game. Butland is shite. He probably will at Wigan on Tuesday
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Post by supacoopa101 on Aug 10, 2019 17:36:47 GMT
Butland perhaps believes he cant be dropped because of the keepers he is in front of.
I don't think he will play in the cup anyway but I would definitely play Davies against Wigan.
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