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Post by george2again on Aug 8, 2019 9:23:59 GMT
Using Edwards as wing back and anyone aprt from McClean as left wing back. use powell as one of front two or advanced midfield 3. We have personnel for it. For me the biggest problem in the team is Vokes, slimmed down but so immobile and slow he may as well be 20 stone. Slows down play and not an option for a forawrd ball. I'd drop him here and now. Add him to the bomb squad, utter waste of money again.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 8, 2019 9:26:25 GMT
Was just thinking the same just means playing a CB who’s good on the ball rather than a DM.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 8, 2019 9:26:34 GMT
What makes you think he will play Edwards?
He's binned him already for no good reason without a fair fight........
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 8, 2019 9:46:16 GMT
We still don’t have anyone to play LWB even then.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Aug 8, 2019 9:47:12 GMT
What makes you think he will play Edwards? He's binned him already for no good reason without a fair fight........ Binned him? 1 game we have played, "1"
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Post by franklin66 on Aug 8, 2019 9:52:39 GMT
What makes you think he will play Edwards? He's binned him already for no good reason without a fair fight........ Binned him? 1 game we have played, "1" Lol it's hilariously wrong I'll give Bayern +1 for stubborn refusal to accept reality or facts.
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Post by wearepremierleague on Aug 8, 2019 9:54:20 GMT
3-5-2 is shite. The formation that has worked best, is most balanced, and would suit our players is 4-2-3-1, don’t know why we ever deferred away from it.
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Post by shrewspotter on Aug 8, 2019 9:57:25 GMT
I think it's more likely 3-1-4-1-1...... I.e a diamond with wingbacks and one up top. Particularly in tough away games. Something like
Butland Vickers- Batth- Lindsay cousins Smith-Allen-Etebo- McClean Powell Hogan
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Post by shrewspotter on Aug 8, 2019 9:58:14 GMT
3-5-2 is shite. The formation that has worked best, is most balanced, and would suit our players is 4-2-3-1, don’t know why we ever deferred away from it. yep. I think that's best suited too. That said I think you need to be adaptable
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 8, 2019 9:59:47 GMT
What makes you think he will play Edwards? He's binned him already for no good reason without a fair fight........ Binned him? 1 game we have played, "1" Yes because it was a game he should have played in. It's not been a fair fight and will only get worse.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Aug 8, 2019 10:00:58 GMT
Binned him? 1 game we have played, "1" Yes because it was a game he should have played in. It's not been a fair fight and will only get worse. Get real bayern it was one game.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 8, 2019 10:02:00 GMT
Yes because it was a game he should have played in. It's not been a fair fight and will only get worse. Get real bayern it was one game. It was his preferred side bar Collins. And his comments after the game re Collins were fucking awful. He's set his stall out.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Aug 8, 2019 10:03:07 GMT
Get real bayern it was one game. It was his preferred side bar Collins. And his comments after the game re Collins were fucking awful. He's set his stall out. You're a lost cause mate, jones has give more chances to youth than any manager we have had for over 10 years.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 8, 2019 10:05:12 GMT
It was his preferred side bar Collins. And his comments after the game re Collins were fucking awful. He's set his stall out. You're a lost cause mate, jones has give more chances to youth than any manager we have had for over 10 years. You're very naive.
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Post by franklin66 on Aug 8, 2019 10:06:06 GMT
Binned him? 1 game we have played, "1" Yes because it was a game he should have played in. It's not been a fair fight and will only get worse. Based on what? Your opinion? Bayern you're funny 🤣 No factual basis for your theory it's bizzare.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Aug 8, 2019 10:06:16 GMT
You're a lost cause mate, jones has give more chances to youth than any manager we have had for over 10 years. You're very naive. You're just paranoid
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 8, 2019 10:07:27 GMT
We'll see. But at the moment none of them look like they'll get much game time. Edwards and Verlinden should be regulars. Collins used for half the games. And Campbell from the bench. For that not to happen is gross mismanagement.
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Post by dreamtheater on Aug 8, 2019 10:29:19 GMT
4.4.2 works for me - idiot proof - normally
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2019 10:30:55 GMT
3-5-2 is shite. The formation that has worked best, is most balanced, and would suit our players is 4-2-3-1, don’t know why we ever deferred away from it. Because it got us into trouble.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2019 10:31:44 GMT
I think it's more likely 3-1-4-1-1...... I.e a diamond with wingbacks and one up top. Particularly in tough away games. Something like Butland Vickers- Batth- Lindsay cousins Smith-Allen-Etebo- McClean Powell Hogan We'll be playing two striker, no doubt.
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Post by Northy on Aug 8, 2019 10:32:46 GMT
I think it's more likely 3-1-4-1-1...... I.e a diamond with wingbacks and one up top. Particularly in tough away games. Something like Butland Vickers- Batth- Lindsay cousins Smith-Allen-Etebo- McClean Powell Hogan You look at that and think, will we ever score 3 in a game again
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2019 10:33:40 GMT
I think it's more likely 3-1-4-1-1...... I.e a diamond with wingbacks and one up top. Particularly in tough away games. Something like Butland Vickers- Batth- Lindsay cousins Smith-Allen-Etebo- McClean Powell Hogan In theory there's nothing wrong with the system. As for the personnel...there's nothing much right.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 8, 2019 10:34:18 GMT
We'll see. But at the moment none of them look like they'll get much game time. Edwards and Verlinden should be regulars. Collins used for half the games. And Campbell from the bench. For that not to happen is gross mismanagement. I agree Edwards should be starting. I agree Verlinden should be in the math day squad at least. I agree Campbell needs to be involved. However, you can't just pick a cb willy nilly. It's a vital position on the pitch that needs a good understanding and partnership. You don't get that by rotating centre backs I'm afraid.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 8, 2019 10:35:20 GMT
4.4.2 works for me - idiot proof - normally Like any system you have to have the right players for it. If not you get overrun in midfield and are incredibly predictable to defend against going forward.
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Post by dreamtheater on Aug 8, 2019 10:38:47 GMT
the diamond is total horseshit -this we already know and, as Ive said before its ALL about players not systems
so we agree
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 8, 2019 10:46:11 GMT
the diamond is total horseshit -this we already know and, as Ive said before its ALL about players not systems so we agree It’s all about players fitting the systems and choosing the system that best fits your players. The idea that good players can play any system has been disproven numerous times.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 8, 2019 10:50:14 GMT
My daughter works with a Luton season ticket holder and he was telling her when he first started playing the diamond at Luton it didn’t work at all and so much so that fans were on his back for a short while.He told her that during one game it suddenly clicked and they never looked back and scored goals for fun. I suppose he will persist with it but the question is how long for?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 8, 2019 11:16:45 GMT
We'll see. But at the moment none of them look like they'll get much game time. Edwards and Verlinden should be regulars. Collins used for half the games. And Campbell from the bench. For that not to happen is gross mismanagement. I agree Edwards should be starting. I agree Verlinden should be in the math day squad at least. I agree Campbell needs to be involved. However, you can't just pick a cb willy nilly. It's a vital position on the pitch that needs a good understanding and partnership. You don't get that by rotating centre backs I'm afraid. Agreed but I think with the amount of games in the season, it's pretty easy to do. Batth isn't all that anyway, he's ok but Collins is already better imo. So I don't think it'd be that hard to do.
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Post by potterpaul on Aug 8, 2019 11:29:40 GMT
Think a 451 diamond would suit better
Butland Edwards Collins CCV Ward Cousins Ince Etebo Verlinden Powell Hogan
A wider diamond with Etebo at centre
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Post by wearepremierleague on Aug 8, 2019 11:30:46 GMT
3-5-2 is shite. The formation that has worked best, is most balanced, and would suit our players is 4-2-3-1, don’t know why we ever deferred away from it. Because it got us into trouble. How? We comfortably survived every season with it. We changed to 3.5.2 and went down
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