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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 30, 2019 7:34:19 GMT
Root at 3 makes perfect sense. And about fucking time. Why he didn't do this ahead of the Ireland test (or, indeed, much earlier) is a bigger question. That would have allowed us to consider some different permutations such as having Roy bat at 4 and maybe have opened the door for another opener (Sibley - particularly on his home ground) because Joe Denly is only in the side as a makeweight #3 as we have no other #3 options. But why inconvenience our best batsman? He really doesn't want to play there, I think it most likely weakens the top order if you're taking 10 off his average by plonking him up a spot.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 30, 2019 11:01:35 GMT
I really hope Pavel doesn't have any convict blood in him. He'd be murder on a cloudy day....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2019 11:50:49 GMT
I really hope Pavel doesn't have any convict blood in him. He'd be murder on a cloudy day.... What the hell was that ...... ? Quality cricket, demon spinner, top batsman ! What's not to like ?
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 30, 2019 14:48:52 GMT
Root at 3 makes perfect sense. And about fucking time. Why he didn't do this ahead of the Ireland test (or, indeed, much earlier) is a bigger question. That would have allowed us to consider some different permutations such as having Roy bat at 4 and maybe have opened the door for another opener (Sibley - particularly on his home ground) because Joe Denly is only in the side as a makeweight #3 as we have no other #3 options. But why inconvenience our best batsman? He really doesn't want to play there, I think it most likely weakens the top order if you're taking 10 off his average by plonking him up a spot. Because 1) it's best for the team and 2) he is more than capable of doing a great job in that position. It's time Root showed some balls. Him and Bairstow have become a pair of spoilt kids in recent times. Time for both to grow up and step up.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 8:19:42 GMT
If you’re on Twitter and you’re a cricket nut you should follow the European Cricket League.
Some great back stories and for all club cricketers out there you’ll recognise some of the pies being bowled and the agricultural shots being played!
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Post by Cast no shadow on Jul 31, 2019 12:55:47 GMT
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 31, 2019 13:11:13 GMT
It's the team I was expecting. We were never going to pick 2 bowlers who both have potential niggles and if you're picking 1 it's Anderson all day long. Jofra will get his chance soon enough.
Definitely gone for experience, hopefully it works and I can't wait.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 31, 2019 13:16:42 GMT
Makes absolute sense not to play Archer until he's ready, read an article the other day that said he played through the WC on painkillers after Afghanistan but takes about 10-2 weeks to regain full fitness. He'll potentially slot in at Lords or maybe not depending on the result. Either way, don't think it will be too long before we see him with Dukes in hand.
Burns simply has to make a score, otherwise he can't be allowed to play at Lords. Last chance saloon.
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Post by professorplump on Jul 31, 2019 14:39:51 GMT
I am happy enough with the line up although I would rather open with Denly and have Roy at four. If the conditions aren't helpful for the bowlers then we might lack a bit of pace. It is a blow not having Archer or Wood for this test. I agree that Burns must be in the last chance saloon and Moeen really needs to step up as well.
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Post by thequietman on Jul 31, 2019 15:23:37 GMT
Hmm. Very much the expected team but I can only think that Moeen's got hold of the incriminating photo's that Ian Bell had for so long. Surely he's been thrown out of the swing doors of the last chance saloon and somehow found his way back in via the cellar window.
Don't get me wrong, I like him and I like how he's improved his bowling over the years, but his batting is shot and Jimmy Krankie could probably play short-pitched bowling better than he does.
Re Leach's 92 v Ireland - that's more test runs than Moeen has scored in total this year (in 7 innings, and one of those was 60 !) and, what is even more shocking, Moeen's batted in 41 test innings since he made a score of more than 92 (a full three years ago).
Is Moeen's bowling that good that he's being selected as a specialist bowler? He does ok, although the crims have got after him in the past. In fact, the crims might be best served by treating Moeen's bowling with respect and only tonking him once every couple of overs .. thereby keeping him in the England team and making sure at least one of our batting spots is a walking wicket.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 31, 2019 18:08:32 GMT
Anyone watched 'The Edge' on here? A behind the scenes film about the England cricket team rising from 7th to 1st Test team in the world then the subsequent falling apart of the same team?.. I can't recommend it highly enough. Watching the struggles Jonathan Trott was going through nearly brought a tear to my eye.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 18:40:33 GMT
Hmm. Very much the expected team but I can only think that Moeen's got hold of the incriminating photo's that Ian Bell had for so long. Surely he's been thrown out of the swing doors of the last chance saloon and somehow found his way back in via the cellar window. Don't get me wrong, I like him and I like how he's improved his bowling over the years, but his batting is shot and Jimmy Krankie could probably play short-pitched bowling better than he does.
Re Leach's 92 v Ireland - that's more test runs than Moeen has scored in total this year (in 7 innings, and one of those was 60 !) and, what is even more shocking, Moeen's batted in 41 test innings since he made a score of more than 92 (a full three years ago). Is Moeen's bowling that good that he's being selected as a specialist bowler? He does ok, although the crims have got after him in the past. In fact, the crims might be best served by treating Moeen's bowling with respect and only tonking him once every couple of overs .. thereby keeping him in the England team and making sure at least one of our batting spots is a walking wicket.
He’s a totally different batter at number 8, I have no issue with him their as I still think he’s consistently our best spinner. But he seems to have lost the art of defence and against the short ball he’s way too easy to get out....
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 31, 2019 19:01:24 GMT
I am happy enough with the line up although I would rather open with Denly and have Roy at four. If the conditions aren't helpful for the bowlers then we might lack a bit of pace. It is a blow not having Archer or Wood for this test. I agree that Burns must be in the last chance saloon and Moeen really needs to step up as well. Yeah putting Roy at four makes a lot more sense of shoving Root up the order to me as well.
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Post by chuckrocky on Jul 31, 2019 21:04:00 GMT
Can’t bloody wait for tomorrow. Don’t know why I let myself get excited as all my enthusiasm will have been quashed when we’re 40-5 at lunch.
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Post by claytonscrubs on Jul 31, 2019 21:10:22 GMT
Sadly...that’s me 😞
C’mon England!! 🏴... Let’s have some more of this ^
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 31, 2019 21:52:38 GMT
I am happy enough with the line up although I would rather open with Denly and have Roy at four. If the conditions aren't helpful for the bowlers then we might lack a bit of pace. It is a blow not having Archer or Wood for this test. I agree that Burns must be in the last chance saloon and Moeen really needs to step up as well. We seem to be in permanent reactive mode in our selections. If we'd been thinking properly we'd have moved Root to #3 for the Ireland test, opened with Burns and Denly and played Roy at 4 which is, as you say, the eminently sensible arrangement for those 4. That would have established the correct top order line up we will use for the summer (or at least the opening Ashes test). Other than that the team is exactly as expected. No need to risk Archer at this stage. Several players need to perform.Burns, Denly and Ali obviously but also Bairstow who is in his rightful test batting position of 7; what he needs to be concerned about is there is a better player put there looking for that spot (Foakes). He needs to keep very well and score some runs. Cannae wait for tomorrow!
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Aug 1, 2019 8:31:21 GMT
If you’re on Twitter and you’re a cricket nut you should follow the European Cricket League. Some great back stories and for all club cricketers out there you’ll recognise some of the pies being bowled and the agricultural shots being played! He hadn't actually broken his leg?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 8:51:03 GMT
If you’re on Twitter and you’re a cricket nut you should follow the European Cricket League. Some great back stories and for all club cricketers out there you’ll recognise some of the pies being bowled and the agricultural shots being played! He hadn't actually broken his leg? I believe he broke it before the tournament and was told he couldn’t play but ignored the advice.....
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Aug 1, 2019 9:00:27 GMT
He hadn't actually broken his leg? I believe he broke it before the tournament and was told he couldn’t play but ignored the advice..... Quality. Absolute quality
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 1, 2019 9:05:46 GMT
Bat first pitch, by all accounts. Absolutely straw coloured apparently.
Though if we do lose the toss, I think with the cloud cover we could do some early damage.
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Post by werrington on Aug 1, 2019 9:33:05 GMT
Australia to bat 1st
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Post by chuckrocky on Aug 1, 2019 9:33:59 GMT
Not a bad toss to lose, ball should do a fair bit this morning.
Siddle playing for the Aussies although they haven’t included an all-rounder so look a bowler short.
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Post by redstriper on Aug 1, 2019 9:38:50 GMT
i'm glad we are bowling first. I didnt fancy seeing 80-5 on our board, would've spoiled my lunch. c'mon lads!
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 1, 2019 9:42:45 GMT
Not a bad toss to lose, ball should do a fair bit this morning. Siddle playing for the Aussies although they haven’t included an all-rounder so look a bowler short. Thought that, Head and Smith are batsmen who can bowl a bit, not even close to all round skills.
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Post by chuckrocky on Aug 1, 2019 9:53:19 GMT
Not a bad toss to lose, ball should do a fair bit this morning. Siddle playing for the Aussies although they haven’t included an all-rounder so look a bowler short. Thought that, Head and Smith are batsmen who can bowl a bit, not even close to all round skills. Pattinson generally bowls short sharp spells as well so it’s going to be a big work load for Cummins and Siddle. Think Paine is a bit of a problem for their side, if you give the gloves to Wade and replace Paine with Marsh or Neser they look a lot more balanced.
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Post by werrington on Aug 1, 2019 9:59:18 GMT
Bancroft and Warner getting some shit 👍
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 1, 2019 10:05:12 GMT
Good start Jimmy, setting Bancroft up nicely for some nice induckers.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 1, 2019 10:07:28 GMT
Warner nicks one down leg, but we don't review.
Was a bit of a strangle, Bairstow seemed very convinced but he was the only one really.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 1, 2019 10:09:28 GMT
Warner nicks one down leg, but we don't review. Was a bit of a strangle, Bairstow seemed very convinced but he was the only one really. Amazed he didn't walk.....
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Post by werrington on Aug 1, 2019 10:11:00 GMT
Warner nicks one down leg, but we don't review. Was a bit of a strangle, Bairstow seemed very convinced but he was the only one really. Bairstow was pretty adamant wasn’t he
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