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Post by chuckrocky on Jul 24, 2019 11:46:46 GMT
Rankin on so Broad will be on his way shortly after being set up with 2 short balls. How does he still bat at 9? Doesn’t have an ounce of courage.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2019 11:54:20 GMT
67-9
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 24, 2019 11:54:48 GMT
Rankin on so Broad will be on his way shortly after being set up with 2 short balls. How does he still bat at 9? Doesn’t have an ounce of courage. No idea, he’s even said in Public he has flashbacks about the Varun Aaron delivery that started all this. It’s a shame because his 30s and 40s down the order were always of value but those days are long gone, should be 11.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 24, 2019 11:55:27 GMT
Jack Leach of Ciderabad to the rescue!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2019 11:55:43 GMT
I know our top order has been woeful in recent times but this overall team "performance" has sunk to new lows.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jul 24, 2019 11:58:54 GMT
Shades of Mike Atherton there, jesus. A lesser known Biblical quote, there...
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 24, 2019 12:02:29 GMT
Here comes the counter attack, 100 run 11th wicket partnership imminent.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 24, 2019 12:03:12 GMT
Here comes the counter attack, 100 run 11th wicket partnership imminent. 3 lovely shots from Stone, which kind of emphasises the whole issue really.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 24, 2019 12:04:50 GMT
The camera is showing just how slow these deliveries are, it looks like it will bounce twice before reaching Wilson, wtf have we done here.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2019 12:09:25 GMT
85 all out
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2019 12:11:37 GMT
Shocking !
All out in 23.4 overs - against Ireland !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jul 24, 2019 12:11:45 GMT
We're going to piss The Ashes..... Oh, hang on! 😁
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 24, 2019 12:12:26 GMT
So... 85 all out.
Before lunch on day 1.
Against... Ireland.
I reckon that is the worst first innings batting display England have ever produced.
Appalling.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2019 12:15:26 GMT
Truly abject.
Some have been on a 5 day bender and it showed, some simply aren’t good enough.
Murtagh might only bowl at 80 mph but he has over 300 wickets at Lords and hits line and length every time, and we continue to show we have no clue how to face a moving ball no matter how slight.....
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Post by professorplump on Jul 24, 2019 12:26:51 GMT
The World Cup was 6 weeks of intensive pressure and it looks as though it has taken it's toll on our players. Our 5 World Cup players scored 7 between them. In hindsight they probably should have been rested for this game. Credit to Ireland. They may not have the fastest attack but they bowled the right line and length and got just enough movement to catch the edge.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 24, 2019 12:32:13 GMT
Roy: Arguably the ball of the innings, though poor technique and ultimately could have left the ball.
Denly: Bog standard nip backer at Lords, caught on the crease, poor technique.
Burns: No feet playing on 6th stump, poor technique.
Root: Missed a straight one simple as that, nearly saved by the double pad noise but plumb LBW.
Bairstow: Made a bit of a cock of himself to be honest, poor technique and did his bottom hand grab thing which he does when he gets tense.
Woakes: See Denly, minus being caught on the crease simply didn't read it coming back
Ali: Typical Moeen Ali dismissal, neither playing nor leaving.
Broad: Easy to set up, easy to dismiss, short short, Broad goes back, fuller ball Game Over.
Curran: Unlucky but fell into the trap.
Stone: Unlucky again and batted well considering his position.
All in all, fucking dreadful and all but one or two down to poor technique and execution. Have to limit Ireland to sub 250 to even have a prayer and then hope something happens in the second innings.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 24, 2019 12:35:49 GMT
Tim Murtagh's wiki page now saying he's "Widely regarded as the best cricketer of all time"
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 24, 2019 13:09:13 GMT
England now with ball in hand.
No doubt our quicks will be bowling a yard quicker but a yard shorter than the Irish medium pacers. And no doubt, as a consequence, will be less effective.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 24, 2019 13:15:49 GMT
England now with ball in hand. No doubt our quicks will be bowling a yard quicker but a yard shorter than the Irish medium pacers. And no doubt, as a consequence, will be less effective. Already happening, Broad bowling length and Ireland not biting. Woakes a little better. I'd back Curran to do a job here or Olly Stone with his County experience of these batsmen.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 24, 2019 13:44:53 GMT
Curran should've been given the new ball, he's a swing bowler and that's his job. Broad is just reminding me on why he needs dropping, too short and too many balls the batsmen could leave without a fuss.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 24, 2019 13:56:30 GMT
On a side note, Porterfield will be distraught about getting out to a 74 mph dirty long hop.
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 24, 2019 13:56:40 GMT
Curran should've been given the new ball, he's a swing bowler and that's his job. Broad is just reminding me on why he needs dropping, too short and too many balls the batsmen could leave without a fuss. One of the problems with Broad is he hates getting driven for a boundary so much that he refuses to bowl full the moment he gets hit for 4. He then either wants a man out sweeping depleting the slip cordon or he continually bowls short. The only time he keeps bowling full is when he is taking wickets. It is truly astonishing that a bowler with his success, ability and experience can be so stupid.
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 24, 2019 13:59:09 GMT
Ouch....
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Post by chuckrocky on Jul 24, 2019 14:02:23 GMT
Curran should've been given the new ball, he's a swing bowler and that's his job. Broad is just reminding me on why he needs dropping, too short and too many balls the batsmen could leave without a fuss. Broad gets in the side because he’s Stuart Broad. If players were picked on current form he’d be nowhere near the side. That could be said for a number of this side. He’s taken 17 wickets in the county championship this season. How can he be expected to take wickets at international level when he’s struggling to take them at club level?
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Post by professorplump on Jul 24, 2019 14:04:43 GMT
Curran should've been given the new ball, he's a swing bowler and that's his job. Broad is just reminding me on why he needs dropping, too short and too many balls the batsmen could leave without a fuss. Stuart Broad has become the Joe Allen of English cricket - gets the blame for everything even though people are failing all around him. There were even people on here moaning when he got out even though the eight batsmen above him did nothing. Meanwhile Chris Woakes is showing again why he shouldn't be anywhere near the test team but people seem to like him so that's okay.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 24, 2019 14:07:55 GMT
Curran should've been given the new ball, he's a swing bowler and that's his job. Broad is just reminding me on why he needs dropping, too short and too many balls the batsmen could leave without a fuss. Broad gets in the side because he’s Stuart Broad. If players were picked on current form he’d be nowhere near the side. That could be said for a number of this side. He’s taken 17 wickets in the county championship this season. How can he be expected to take wickets at international level when he’s struggling to take them at club level? In fairness to him, the pitches at Trent Bridge this year have been dustbowls in preparation for Ashwin. But the wider point is valid, there's some very good in form young county bowlers who should be getting a look in, especially in games like this which we should be winning.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 24, 2019 14:10:59 GMT
Curran should've been given the new ball, he's a swing bowler and that's his job. Broad is just reminding me on why he needs dropping, too short and too many balls the batsmen could leave without a fuss. Stuart Broad has become the Joe Allen of English cricket - gets the blame for everything even though people are failing all around him. There were even people on here moaning when he got out even though the eight batsmen above him did nothing. Meanwhile Chris Woakes is showing again why he shouldn't be anywhere near the test team but people seem to like him so that's okay. To clarify, I don't think anyone was blaming him for getting out or the situation merely the manner in which it happens after his broken nose. It's simply short ball, short ball, full ball and out to any bowler over 6'2. He's the frailest batsman by far and should be at 11 for his own sake because he's admitted several times he hasn't got the stomach for it any more. After that blow to the face I don't really blame him either.
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 24, 2019 14:12:36 GMT
Curran should've been given the new ball, he's a swing bowler and that's his job. Broad is just reminding me on why he needs dropping, too short and too many balls the batsmen could leave without a fuss. Curran ain't a test match opening bowler. At best he is a 4th seamer. Which means the place he is competing for in the team is the #6 all rounder spot. Only thing is, that spot is already taken by Stokes. Also, he had a lot to do to show he is a good enough batter to bat at #6. This was demonstrated emphatically during the WIndies tour.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 24, 2019 14:12:43 GMT
He's a handy little player Sam Curran, in every sense.
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 24, 2019 14:16:25 GMT
He's a handy little player Sam Curran, in every sense. Handy - yes. A bits and pieces player. A throwback to the all rounders we used routinely in the 90s who were neither good enough with bat or ball to justify a place in the team.
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