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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jul 16, 2019 15:57:03 GMT
I didn't know Joe Allen played for Frosinone? Totally misguided and an insult to Stoke's best player by a country mile! Ha. Good one.
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Post by dreamtheater on Jul 16, 2019 16:17:20 GMT
Looking at the images if its indeed him, I am nearer 26 than he is and Im 61.. either he cant fucking count or, is a fraud . African players have 'previous' when it comes to this. No rascism behind this at all but, I would not touch this 'old codger' purporting to be 26 with my oft used fucking bargepole.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jul 16, 2019 16:26:50 GMT
Well he's a defensive midfielder at least but is he any good?. I'd be a bit pissed if we spunked 15m+ on a 29 year old Gayle to add to a 29 year old £9m vokes when we could have spent £18/20m on Pearson & vydra
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Post by kelw on Jul 16, 2019 16:29:17 GMT
Looking at the images if its indeed him, I am nearer 26 than he is and Im 61.. either he cant fucking count or, is a fraud . African players have 'previous' when it comes to this. No rascism behind this at all but, I would not touch this 'old codger' purporting to be 26 with my oft used fucking bargepole. Bit harsh Yaffa did it but can think of 2 S Americans, an Indian and an Irish international off the top of my head. A few fingers pointed at the odd African in Italy due to their looks as well but nothing came of the ones I remember.
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Post by boscfc on Jul 16, 2019 16:29:37 GMT
Looking at the images if its indeed him, I am nearer 26 than he is and Im 61.. either he cant fucking count or, is a fraud . African players have 'previous' when it comes to this. No rascism behind this at all but, I would not touch this 'old codger' purporting to be 26 with my oft used fucking bargepole. You have a fucking bargepole? That’s some specialist stuff. Each to their own ...
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Post by dreamtheater on Jul 16, 2019 16:31:04 GMT
Yep its for fending things off on my narrowboat
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jul 16, 2019 16:40:09 GMT
At last, a Whelan replacement.....
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Post by rawli on Jul 16, 2019 16:52:32 GMT
Looking at that list, it I'd be pretty surprised if it wasn't Acquah. That doesn't hold water.
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Post by themistocles on Jul 16, 2019 16:59:49 GMT
So it's one Ramen Chibsah of Frosinone? Sentinel certainly going for that: Gloves in Italy... Fuck that
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 16, 2019 17:02:22 GMT
Sentinel certainly going for that: Gloves in Italy... Fuck that Yeah it’s super warm there all year around especially in the north close to the Alps.....
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Post by Fred Merger on Jul 16, 2019 17:03:53 GMT
Sentinel certainly going for that: Gloves in Italy... Fuck that Handy in a snowball fight in February!
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Post by zerps on Jul 16, 2019 17:11:06 GMT
Can we vet his agent first
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Post by nott1 on Jul 16, 2019 17:13:21 GMT
But where is the link to a decent striker?
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 16, 2019 17:23:52 GMT
I didn't know Joe Allen played for Frosinone? Totally misguided and an insult to Stoke's best player by a country mile! A bit like being the World’s Tallest Dwarf. Allen does all of those things, he also does other stuff well. He’s missed about 5 games in 3 years and for 3 years our central midfield has been an unbalanced mess because no one knows his best position. He gets played higher up where he isn’t creative enough, he gets played further back where he isn’t destructive or atheltic enough and he gets played in the middle where he isn’t discliplined enough. For a guy that’s allegedly our best player, I’d have expected to be batting off suitors for him.
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 16, 2019 17:48:35 GMT
I'm concerned about his height. We need a DM who will physically dominate teams.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 16, 2019 17:54:23 GMT
I'm concerned about his height. We need a DM who will physically dominate teams. N’golo Kante is five foot six.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Jul 16, 2019 17:55:26 GMT
I'm concerned about his height. We need a DM who will physically dominate teams. I'm not arsed about height but we definitely need a physical presence.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Jul 16, 2019 17:56:36 GMT
Galatasaray and Fenerbahce are preparing loan bids as we speak
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 16, 2019 18:00:50 GMT
I'm concerned about his height. We need a DM who will physically dominate teams. N’golo Kante is five foot six. I was thinking of Kante as an obvious counter, funnily enough. There's nothing wrong with him being very short per se, but it does become a problem in a midfield that is likely to feature Joe Allen and Peter Etebo. Part of the job of screening the defence, particularly in this league, has to be aerial dominance.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jul 16, 2019 18:36:05 GMT
N’golo Kante is five foot six. I was thinking of Kante as an obvious counter, funnily enough. There's nothing wrong with him being very short per se, but it does become a problem in a midfield that is likely to feature Joe Allen and Peter Etebo. Part of the job of screening the defence, particularly in this league, has to be aerial dominance. Agree with this, we don't have much height do we. For me the DM in NJ's system should also be capable of making 2 CB's a 3 because no doubt we will be countered down the flanks and balls will come over from there as our full backs are making it back down. It's an obvious flaw that you would target very quickly if you were managing against it. I mentioned him before but now Swansea are looking at taking Reece Oxford on loan for the season from west ham. 6ft 3, physical & quick. Can play DM & CB
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 16, 2019 18:36:37 GMT
N’golo Kante is five foot six. I was thinking of Kante as an obvious counter, funnily enough. There's nothing wrong with him being very short per se, but it does become a problem in a midfield that is likely to feature Joe Allen and Peter Etebo. Part of the job of screening the defence, particularly in this league, has to be aerial dominance. I think with various centre backs over six foot and Vokes doing his bit at set pieces we should hopefully have enough to get by.
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Post by neilb987 on Jul 16, 2019 18:37:45 GMT
Height for a DM not that important. What are critical attributes are tackling, interception, stamina, positioning and the ability to play a pass to team-mate. Anything else is a bonus ...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 18:41:49 GMT
Height for a DM not that important. What are critical attributes are tackling, interception, stamina, positioning and the ability to play a pass to team-mate. Anything else is a bonus ... Such an important position to win headers from, takes so much pressure off of the centre halves.
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Post by neilb987 on Jul 16, 2019 18:56:04 GMT
Height for a DM not that important. What are critical attributes are tackling, interception, stamina, positioning and the ability to play a pass to team-mate. Anything else is a bonus ... Such an important position to win headers from, takes so much pressure off of the centre halves. Yes - winning headers in midfield is certainly an asset, but then DMs don’t usually find themselves up against six-foot-four strikers ..... that’s the job of the centre- backs!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 19:05:52 GMT
Such an important position to win headers from, takes so much pressure off of the centre halves. Yes - winning headers in midfield is certainly an asset, but then DMs don’t usually find themselves up against six-foot-four strikers ..... that’s the job of the centre- backs! It completely depends where the striker is playing, not to mention it's rarely as simple as being straight from the goal kick. DMs are important aerially, what about when the centre half/striker wins it and someone has to win the second ball? They challenge in the air plenty.
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Post by leicspotter on Jul 16, 2019 19:07:52 GMT
Such an important position to win headers from, takes so much pressure off of the centre halves. Yes - winning headers in midfield is certainly an asset, but then DMs don’t usually find themselves up against six-foot-four strikers ..... that’s the job of the centre- backs! I can remember a number of occasions last season where our midfield struggled against a taller opposition player, who was able to move away from them in a couple of strides, a la NZonze, we could really do with a tall guy in midfield imho.
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 16, 2019 19:17:27 GMT
I was thinking of Kante as an obvious counter, funnily enough. There's nothing wrong with him being very short per se, but it does become a problem in a midfield that is likely to feature Joe Allen and Peter Etebo. Part of the job of screening the defence, particularly in this league, has to be aerial dominance. Agree with this, we don't have much height do we. For me the DM in NJ's system should also be capable of making 2 CB's a 3 because no doubt we will be countered down the flanks and balls will come over from there as our full backs are making it back down. It's an obvious flaw that you would target very quickly if you were managing against it. I mentioned him before but now Swansea are looking at taking Reece Oxford on loan for the season from west ham. 6ft 3, physical & quick. Can play DM & CB I mentioned Oxford a while ago. Sami Ajay is a good fit too. People are getting all hot under the collar about Collins and I’m sure if he’s as good on the ball and athletic as everyone says he is (I’ve only seen him a couple of times) he could probably step forward too and get games at DM too.
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 16, 2019 19:18:27 GMT
Yes - winning headers in midfield is certainly an asset, but then DMs don’t usually find themselves up against six-foot-four strikers ..... that’s the job of the centre- backs! I can remember a number of occasions last season where our midfield struggled against a taller opposition player, who was able to move away from them in a couple of strides, a la NZonze, we could really do with a tall guy in midfield imho. People forget just home much Nzonzi won in the air, second balls, corners etc.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Jul 16, 2019 19:18:55 GMT
Hopefully his agent won't turn out to be a complete cock womble like another member of the Stoke City African contingent.... ....and until he is in front of the Boothen with scarf aloft, then I Ghana believe it!
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Post by neddy on Jul 16, 2019 19:29:58 GMT
Can’t really believe this one but Chopper suggests it could happen.....
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