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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 18, 2019 20:03:22 GMT
I blame other before Corbyn on that one though........ Corbyn is history. But Corbyn’s Labour isn’t. The leadership will determine if his policies continue on. My expectation is Labour will stay on the course he set. Whether that is a wise thing will be determined at the next election. I suspect it will means they will be defeated again. Burgon was putting everything down to Brexit on Politics Live today, despite a segment featuring Stokies saying it went far deeper than that. It seems they still aren't listening.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 22, 2019 9:58:49 GMT
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Post by thevoid on Dec 22, 2019 11:05:48 GMT
Well at least there's one Labour supporter who's happy In his speech, ex-Labour leader Mr Blair - a longstanding critic of the party's move to the left under Mr Corbyn - said: "I believe with different leadership we would have kept much of our vote in traditional Labour areas. "Instead, we pursued a path of almost comic indecision - alienated both sides of the debate." And he said the party should never have fallen into the "Elephant trap" of agreeing to a "Brexit election" without a clear position on Brexit and with a leader who had a "net approval rating of minus 40%". But he added: "People saw him as fundamentally opposing what Britain and Western countries stand for." Mr Corbyn personified "a brand of quasi-revolutionary socialism - mixing far-left economic policy with deep hostility to Western foreign policy" - and that this combination "never has and never will" appeal to traditional Labour voters, he argued. And the far-left "protest movement" which was born out of Mr Corbyn's leadership was supported by "cult trimmings" and was "utterly incapable" of being voted in as a "credible government". Read all about it .... www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50829352With Blair being pro-Remain, would he have done much better in Labour heartlands?
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 22, 2019 12:22:58 GMT
Jeremy Corbyn signalling his move from the ten past eight political interview slot on the Today programme to the 10 to eight slot reserved for pious reflection.
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Post by serpico on Dec 22, 2019 12:23:13 GMT
I reckon Corbyn is going to try and stay on, why is he still there ? Surely the right thing to do after a massive loss is to immediately stand down and allow an interim leader to take charge until a new leader is chosen ?
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 22, 2019 12:36:09 GMT
I reckon Corbyn is going to try and stay on, why is he still there ? Surely the right thing to do after a massive loss is to immediately stand down and allow an interim leader to take charge until a new leader is chosen ? He’s there to ensure the correct succession. Corbyn may be dead, but Corbynism will live on. How do I know - because Len McCluskey has spoken.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Dec 22, 2019 17:26:41 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 22, 2019 17:37:30 GMT
David Lammy the further left and looney the better meggybread would love it, Abacus as deputy
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Dec 22, 2019 17:42:04 GMT
David Lammy the further left and looney the better meggybread would love it, Abacus as deputy I know what you mean.....it seems irrespective of the new leader, any opposition will be spending 10 years in the wilderness. Labour at the very least need someone who is likeable and not a moaner. I think that Nandy made a very telling observation in May on the signatories to the Revoke Article 50 campaign.... REAL northern working class did not want to know..,.a very similar interpretation of the Political Landscape that Starkey referred to in the clip that Partick posted. www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-brexit-petition-reveals-a-war-between-two-englands-2ht8bshtm
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Post by serpico on Dec 22, 2019 17:45:56 GMT
A few years ago I actually liked Lammy, he seemed like a pretty interesting guy, but he’s since gone down the social justice warrior rabbit hole and imo, gone a bit loopy. Shame. Seems many on the left have been infected by woke politics thinking it’s popular when it’s not, it only appeals to a very narrow segment of society, everyone else is put off by it.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 22, 2019 17:50:50 GMT
A few years ago I actually liked Lammy, he seemed like a pretty interesting guy, but he’s since gone down the social justice warrior rabbit hole and imo, gone a bit loopy. Shame. Seems many on the left have been infected by woke politics thinking it’s popular when it’s not, it only appeals to a very narrow segment of society, everyone else is put off by it. They just need some "Momentum"
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Post by claytonscrubs on Dec 22, 2019 17:58:43 GMT
I hope no one accidentally sits on one of Jeremy’s carrots 🥕
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 23, 2019 2:17:19 GMT
Dream Team.
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Post by Kilo on Dec 23, 2019 8:28:02 GMT
Why is his mum letting him out the house with his glasses on skew-whiff? If he still can't dress himself, she needs to take more responsibility otherwise he'll get bullied by the bigger boys.
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Post by zerps on Dec 23, 2019 8:54:32 GMT
Hasn’t it been proven that Milliband is literally an alien being?
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Post by Northy on Dec 23, 2019 10:05:48 GMT
I reckon Corbyn is going to try and stay on, why is he still there ? Surely the right thing to do after a massive loss is to immediately stand down and allow an interim leader to take charge until a new leader is chosen ? He’s there to ensure the correct succession. Corbyn may be dead, but Corbynism will live on. How do I know - because Len McCluskey has spoken. Len has given his support to Rebecca Wrong daily
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 23, 2019 10:13:27 GMT
He’s there to ensure the correct succession. Corbyn may be dead, but Corbynism will live on. How do I know - because Len McCluskey has spoken. Len has given his support to Rebecca Wrong daily Goes to show that two wrongs don't make it right.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Dec 23, 2019 10:32:24 GMT
Seems to me that Labour ( momentum) are focusing on appointing a leader of the opposition/ someone who upholds their views and might give Boris a bit of stick now and again as they hold the moral high ground. That's not the same role as being PM. They need to appoint a ( potential) Prime minister.... not a leader of the Opposition.
Can't see Long Bailey in that role myself.
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Post by Northy on Dec 23, 2019 13:25:20 GMT
Seems to me that Labour ( momentum) are focusing on appointing a leader of the opposition/ someone who upholds their views and might give Boris a bit of stick now and again as they hold the moral high ground. That's not the same role as being PM. They need to appoint a ( potential) Prime minister.... not a leader of the Opposition. Can't see Long Bailey in that role myself. is there anyone in that front bench that could do that, I can't see it, needs to be from the back benches.
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Post by serpico on Dec 23, 2019 14:51:50 GMT
labour has no future, its a zombie party.
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Post by felonious on Dec 23, 2019 16:58:43 GMT
I hope no one accidentally sits on one of Jeremy’s carrots 🥕 Let's hope they didn't tread on the Jerusalem artichokes.
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Post by felonious on Dec 29, 2019 7:32:58 GMT
Let battle commence. Defeated Labour MPs call for 'fundamental change' at top of the party www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50936655Meanwhile, Yvette Cooper, another Labour MP considering standing to be leader, said the party needed to "show humility" and "be ready to change". Writing in the Sunday Mirror, the MP for Pontefract, Normanton and Castleford, said concerns about Mr Corbyn and national security were among the reasons voters she encountered gave for why they did not vote Labour at the general election. Ms Cooper, a former cabinet minister, said Labour needed to be a "broad church" and resist the "pressure to be a factional or narrow, hard-left party".
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Post by followyoudown on Dec 30, 2019 11:23:38 GMT
You know whats amazing the spike in hate crime can be attributed to things Boris wrote years ago in some cases by Labour within seconds but the disgusting antisemitic graffiti in London just silence well its on corbyn and all who voted for him knowing who he has stood with and what he stands for and it absolutely infests the Labour party. The guy Labour put up against Boris was a 9/11 truther going on a journey of course just before being selected as a prospective mp.
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Post by felonious on Dec 31, 2019 10:55:18 GMT
Keeping the red flag flying till the bitter end. Jeremy Corbyn urges Labour to lead 'resistance' to Conservatives in 2020 "It won't be easy," he said. "But we have built a movement. We are the resistance to Boris Johnson. We will be campaigning every day. We will be on the front line, both in Parliament and on the streets." www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50945597
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jan 1, 2020 12:14:20 GMT
It's taken barely a few seconds to find these this morning, Twitter really does live in it's own little echo-chamber.
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Post by xchpotter on Jan 1, 2020 12:17:48 GMT
It's taken barely a few seconds to find these this morning, Twitter really does live in it's own little echo-chamber. What a bunch of losers.😂😂😂
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Post by followyoudown on Jan 1, 2020 12:34:23 GMT
It's taken barely a few seconds to find these this morning, Twitter really does live in it's own little echo-chamber. Bat shit crazy people who are all convinced Oh Jeremy Corbyn was been sang at the fireworks and the bbc turned the music up to drown it out, the song was 7 Nation army.......
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Post by thevoid on Jan 1, 2020 14:53:54 GMT
It's taken barely a few seconds to find these this morning, Twitter really does live in it's own little echo-chamber. #byejeremycorbyn
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 2, 2020 10:14:49 GMT
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 11, 2020 16:09:41 GMT
"Crash"
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