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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2019 15:06:31 GMT
Because the Board of Deputies that represent 25% of the Jewish community but claim to speak for them all intervened of course. I particularly like your use of "Jewish", subscribing to the theory that those Jewish folk who support Corbyn as the "wrong type". Nice touch..... I missed this yesterday nice unintentional (?) jews control the media trope from you, just ignore the fact that the points raised by BOD were correct otherwise why would the guardian drop it. Hope not hate said they had no record of the person claiming to sign on their behalf, I mean why would you need to fake this stuff unless.... still as long as he retains the support of the congo great lakes society hey.... And no my use of "jewish" is because there are numerous examples of corbyn supporting racists claiming a vague connection to jewish ancestory to try and hide their anti semitism. Stop with the “Jews control the media” barrel scraping. The Board of Deputies are a right wing Zionist organisation that only represent 25% of all Jews despite claiming to speak to them all. It’s not their Jewishness that bothers me, it’s their politics and their agenda. Look at their reaction to Tory Suella Braverman’s antisemitic trope, they fawned all over her, “she made a mistake, the Conservatives have always being a friend to the Jewish community”. Tells me all I need to know thanks. “A vague connection to Jewish ancestors” Wow there’s no stopping you with your bigotry towards the “wrong type of Jew” is there? Shameless......
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Post by bathstoke on Jul 13, 2019 15:07:46 GMT
Jezzawatch. It’s like watching a Monty Python sketch... ”Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition” 😀 His bloody garden is a right mess...Imagine what a shithole No 10 will be like if he gets there. Well said Shang. It’s an abomination. What does it say about a person if they don’t keep the front patch right(although Pippa Greenwood off GQT says she leaves hers, so as not to attract attention) I’ll tell you what it says, it says he doesn’t like the bourgeoisie concept of horticulture, but I bet his allotment is smashing! So how about a coke sniffing, alcoholic, narcissistic, misogynistic elitist. How would No10 look if one of they got in there...
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Post by claytonscrubs on Jul 13, 2019 16:49:27 GMT
Jezzawatch. It’s like watching a Monty Python sketch... ”Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition” 😀 His bloody garden is a right mess...Imagine what a shithole No 10 will be like if he gets there. It’s all part of being a Marxist, having a shit garden!😀... Can you imagine the uproar from Momentum if it looked like a Chelsea show garden...they’d be saying he’d ‘sold out’ 😀
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Post by followyoudown on Jul 13, 2019 23:23:20 GMT
I missed this yesterday nice unintentional (?) jews control the media trope from you, just ignore the fact that the points raised by BOD were correct otherwise why would the guardian drop it. Hope not hate said they had no record of the person claiming to sign on their behalf, I mean why would you need to fake this stuff unless.... still as long as he retains the support of the congo great lakes society hey.... And no my use of "jewish" is because there are numerous examples of corbyn supporting racists claiming a vague connection to jewish ancestory to try and hide their anti semitism. Stop with the “Jews control the media” barrel scraping. The Board of Deputies are a right wing Zionist organisation that only represent 25% of all Jews despite claiming to speak to them all. It’s not their Jewishness that bothers me, it’s their politics and their agenda. Look at their reaction to Tory Suella Braverman’s antisemitic trope, they fawned all over her, “she made a mistake, the Conservatives have always being a friend to the Jewish community”. Tells me all I need to know thanks. “A vague connection to Jewish ancestors” Wow there’s no stopping you with your bigotry towards the “wrong type of Jew” is there? Shameless...... You actually stated the guardian dropped the letter because the BOD complained, no recognition of the reasons they complained. As for the rest I said there are numerous examples of corbyn supporting racists claiming a vague connection to jewish ancestors and in some cases lying about being jewish. I can see through you zionist deflection and repeating momentum propaganda, the good news is a reckoning is coming for all those who have enabled and enboldened AS, I see another whistleblower has come forward today wonder what you will be smearing him with.
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Post by felonious on Jul 14, 2019 6:45:54 GMT
His bloody garden is a right mess...Imagine what a shithole No 10 will be like if he gets there. It’s all part of being a Marxist, having a shit garden!😀... Can you imagine the uproar from Momentum if it looked like a Chelsea show garden...they’d be saying he’d ‘sold out’ 😀 Corbyn sell out? never... he'll always Remain a man of principle.
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Post by felonious on Jul 14, 2019 6:48:48 GMT
Stop with the “Jews control the media” barrel scraping. The Board of Deputies are a right wing Zionist organisation that only represent 25% of all Jews despite claiming to speak to them all. It’s not their Jewishness that bothers me, it’s their politics and their agenda. Look at their reaction to Tory Suella Braverman’s antisemitic trope, they fawned all over her, “she made a mistake, the Conservatives have always being a friend to the Jewish community”. Tells me all I need to know thanks. “A vague connection to Jewish ancestors” Wow there’s no stopping you with your bigotry towards the “wrong type of Jew” is there? Shameless...... You actually stated the guardian dropped the letter because the BOD complained, no recognition of the reasons they complained. As for the rest I said there are numerous examples of corbyn supporting racists claiming a vague connection to jewish ancestors and in some cases lying about being jewish. I can see through you zionist deflection and repeating momentum propaganda, the good news is a reckoning is coming for all those who have enabled and enboldened AS, I see another whistleblower has come forward today wonder what you will be smearing him with. Is 0.06% a piece of Momentum propaganda? Still have no idea where it's come from and yet to see it challenged in the mainstream media.
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Post by felonious on Jul 14, 2019 12:38:24 GMT
Thornberry... Labour should listen "to the message" rather than "going for the messengers" when it comes to anti-Semitism, the shadow foreign secretary has said. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48981120Another one positioning for the inevitable leadership battle or just another disaffected Labour member?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2019 16:48:29 GMT
Whistleblowers to sue Labour as antisemitism row deepens link
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Post by felonious on Jul 14, 2019 17:08:38 GMT
Whistleblowers to sue Labour as antisemitism row deepens linkEvery day it gets worse and worse for Corbyn. More and more disaffected Labour figures speaking out on the subject. It's a good job he's got Mr 12% at fucking Unite to fucking speak out for him.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2019 20:27:38 GMT
Whistleblowers to sue Labour as antisemitism row deepens linkEvery day it gets worse and worse for Corbyn. More and more disaffected Labour figures speaking out on the subject. It's a good job he's got Mr 12% at fucking Unite to fucking speak out for him. I think you completely underestimate how little people believe or care about this issue that has taken up a completely disproportionate amount of air time outside the media bubble. Labour’s issue away from Brexit isn’t antisemitism, it’s a number of their centrist Blairite MP’s who have seeked to undermine Corbyn from day one. They would rather have a Tory government than see him in Number 10. Some will find come a GE they won’t even be in the running though as the CLP’s will push for new candidates. And as I’ve said before I take little notice of polls, but as the media insist on shoving YouGov polls down our neck it would only be fair and balanced to highlight that Labour are in front in every other one.....
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jul 14, 2019 20:44:54 GMT
Every day it gets worse and worse for Corbyn. More and more disaffected Labour figures speaking out on the subject. It's a good job he's got Mr 12% at fucking Unite to fucking speak out for him. I think you completely underestimate how little people believe or care about this issue that has taken up a completely disproportionate amount of air time outside the media bubble. Labour’s issue away from Brexit isn’t antisemitism, it’s a number of their centrist Blairite MP’s who have seeked to undermine Corbyn from day one. They would rather have a Tory government than see him in Number 10. Some will find come a GE they won’t even be in the running though as the CLP’s will push for new candidates. And as I’ve said before I take little notice of polls, but as the media insist on shoving YouGov polls down our neck it would only be fair and balanced to highlight that Labour are in front in every other one..... I thought they came onside a bit when he ran the Tories close? Must have been grudging?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2019 21:21:50 GMT
I think you completely underestimate how little people believe or care about this issue that has taken up a completely disproportionate amount of air time outside the media bubble. Labour’s issue away from Brexit isn’t antisemitism, it’s a number of their centrist Blairite MP’s who have seeked to undermine Corbyn from day one. They would rather have a Tory government than see him in Number 10. Some will find come a GE they won’t even be in the running though as the CLP’s will push for new candidates. And as I’ve said before I take little notice of polls, but as the media insist on shoving YouGov polls down our neck it would only be fair and balanced to highlight that Labour are in front in every other one..... I thought they came onside a bit when he ran the Tories close? Must have been grudging? The Liz Kendall’s and Yvette Cooper’s of this world have the audacity of to accuse Corbyn of not “reaching out” to the Blairite mob. I genuinely don’t know how they do it with a straight face, he offered a load of them shadow cabinet positions and they turned them down and organised a failed coup to get rid of him. Centrist mate, don’t trust them. Labour need to go back to their Socialist roots, if that means they’re out of power for ever and a day then so be it. They’re either a genuine alternative party, or Tory Lite. Don’t even get me started on their stance on Remain, pandering to the metropolitan boroughs and ignore their heartlands will be their biggest challenge, not the antisemitism scandal which aside from a tiny minority is pure McCarthyism......
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Post by crapslinger on Jul 14, 2019 21:30:50 GMT
I think you completely underestimate how little people believe or care about this issue that has taken up a completely disproportionate amount of air time outside the media bubble. Labour’s issue away from Brexit isn’t antisemitism, it’s a number of their centrist Blairite MP’s who have seeked to undermine Corbyn from day one. They would rather have a Tory government than see him in Number 10. Some will find come a GE they won’t even be in the running though as the CLP’s will push for new candidates. And as I’ve said before I take little notice of polls, but as the media insist on shoving YouGov polls down our neck it would only be fair and balanced to highlight that Labour are in front in every other one..... I thought they came onside a bit when he ran the Tories close? Must have been grudging? Or desperate
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jul 14, 2019 21:32:25 GMT
I thought they came onside a bit when he ran the Tories close? Must have been grudging? The Liz Kendall’s and Yvette Cooper’s of this world have the audacity of to accuse Corbyn of not “reaching out” to the Blairite mob. I genuinely don’t know how they do it with a straight face, he offered a load of them shadow cabinet positions and they turned them down and organised a failed coup to get rid of him. Centrist mate, don’t trust them. Labour need to go back to their Socialist roots, if that means they’re out of power for ever and a day then so be it. They’re either a genuine alternative party, or Tory Lite. Don’t even get me started on their stance on Remain, pandering to the metropolitan boroughs and ignore their heartlands will be their biggest challenge, not the antisemitism scandal which aside from a tiny minority is pure McCarthyism...... I didn't realise he had done that. I remember Owen Smith sniping from the sidelines,though. To be honest, I would prefer a genuine choice between left and right as well. There's always the Liberal Democrats for middle grounders.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jul 14, 2019 21:33:59 GMT
I thought they came onside a bit when he ran the Tories close? Must have been grudging? Or desperate Or opportunists?
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Post by crapslinger on Jul 14, 2019 21:36:34 GMT
Or desperate Or opportunists? Or both !
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Post by followyoudown on Jul 15, 2019 14:57:43 GMT
All a smear hey No money for payrises for the staff but money for NDA's and to threaten them with legal action
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jul 15, 2019 15:16:34 GMT
His bloody garden is a right mess...Imagine what a shithole No 10 will be like if he gets there. Well said Shang. It’s an abomination. What does it say about a person if they don’t keep the front patch right(although Pippa Greenwood off GQT says she leaves hers, so as not to attract attention) I’ll tell you what it says, it says he doesn’t like the bourgeoisie concept of horticulture, but I bet his allotment is smashing! So how about a coke sniffing, alcoholic, narcissistic, misogynistic elitist. How would No10 look if one of they got in there... What are you saying? The bushes won't be trimmed?
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Post by harryburrows on Jul 15, 2019 17:39:52 GMT
Well said Shang. It’s an abomination. What does it say about a person if they don’t keep the front patch right(although Pippa Greenwood off GQT says she leaves hers, so as not to attract attention) I’ll tell you what it says, it says he doesn’t like the bourgeoisie concept of horticulture, but I bet his allotment is smashing! So how about a coke sniffing, alcoholic, narcissistic, misogynistic elitist. How would No10 look if one of they got in there... What are you saying? The bushes won't be trimmed? It's a welcome mat imo , takes me back to my youth , wasn't Helen mirren in that movie or I s that just wishful thinking
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Post by bathstoke on Jul 15, 2019 18:01:27 GMT
Well said Shang. It’s an abomination. What does it say about a person if they don’t keep the front patch right(although Pippa Greenwood off GQT says she leaves hers, so as not to attract attention) I’ll tell you what it says, it says he doesn’t like the bourgeoisie concept of horticulture, but I bet his allotment is smashing! So how about a coke sniffing, alcoholic, narcissistic, misogynistic elitist. How would No10 look if one of they got in there... What are you saying? The bushes won't be trimmed? Unlike George, Bushes are back
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Post by vokeswagen on Jul 15, 2019 18:07:24 GMT
All a smear hey No money for payrises for the staff but money for NDA's and to threaten them with legal action 'Over 200 current and former staff and supporters'? What does that even mean?! Is a supporter a current/former member? Donor? Volunteer? Simply someone who's voted Labour at least once? The current Labour membership is 512,000, and even as a percentage of THAT figure - a grand act of charity to the alarmist tone of your story - 200 people represents way less than 0.1%. The figure for "current and former staff AND supporters" probably goes well into the millions, rendering that 200 a much smaller percentage. Define "supporter" and/or come back with a much stronger story pal.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jul 15, 2019 18:16:02 GMT
What are you saying? The bushes won't be trimmed? It's a welcome mat imo , takes me back to my youth , wasn't Helen mirren in that movie or I s that just wishful thinking Yeah, me and a few mates tried to sneak into The ABC to watch it. Got caught by an old bloke with glasses. Bastard, him! 😁
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Post by felonious on Jul 15, 2019 18:51:45 GMT
All a smear hey No money for payrises for the staff but money for NDA's and to threaten them with legal action From Tales of the disaffected to Tales of the unexpected. Has anyone got any control over this party apart from Momentum?
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Post by Billybigbollox on Jul 15, 2019 19:05:49 GMT
What are you saying? The bushes won't be trimmed? Unlike George, Bushes are back About time too Bath. Apparently there’s a program coming onto channel 4 about women and their lady gardens.
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Post by followyoudown on Jul 15, 2019 20:33:26 GMT
All a smear hey No money for payrises for the staff but money for NDA's and to threaten them with legal action 'Over 200 current and former staff and supporters'? What does that even mean?! Is a supporter a current/former member? Donor? Volunteer? Simply someone who's voted Labour at least once? The current Labour membership is 512,000, and even as a percentage of THAT figure - a grand act of charity to the alarmist tone of your story - 200 people represents way less than 0.1%. The figure for "current and former staff AND supporters" probably goes well into the millions, rendering that 200 a much smaller percentage. Define "supporter" and/or come back with a much stronger story pal. Well there is some dispute on that membership figure but anyway I don't need to define anything pal, its there for you in black and white people who work or did work for the Labour party are defending people they worked with and criticising corbyns spin operation, Labour are openly bullying and defaming union members to try and save racist grandpa.
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Post by vokeswagen on Jul 15, 2019 20:42:55 GMT
'Over 200 current and former staff and supporters'? What does that even mean?! Is a supporter a current/former member? Donor? Volunteer? Simply someone who's voted Labour at least once? The current Labour membership is 512,000, and even as a percentage of THAT figure - a grand act of charity to the alarmist tone of your story - 200 people represents way less than 0.1%. The figure for "current and former staff AND supporters" probably goes well into the millions, rendering that 200 a much smaller percentage. Define "supporter" and/or come back with a much stronger story pal. Well there is some dispute on that membership figure but anyway I don't need to define anything pal, its there for you in black and white people who work or did work for the Labour party are defending people they worked with and criticising corbyns spin operation, Labour are openly bullying and defaming union members to try and save racist grandpa. It's not there in black and white. That's exactly the problem. There's no context, detail or explanation at all, as I've pointed out quite comprehensively above.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jul 15, 2019 21:23:04 GMT
Unlike George, Bushes are back About time too Bath. Apparently there’s a program coming onto channel 4 about women and their lady gardens. 100 vaginas? I only recognised 99 of them.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 21:37:57 GMT
All a smear hey No money for payrises for the staff but money for NDA's and to threaten them with legal action 'Over 200 current and former staff and supporters'? What does that even mean?! Is a supporter a current/former member? Donor? Volunteer? Simply someone who's voted Labour at least once? The current Labour membership is 512,000, and even as a percentage of THAT figure - a grand act of charity to the alarmist tone of your story - 200 people represents way less than 0.1%. The figure for "current and former staff AND supporters" probably goes well into the millions, rendering that 200 a much smaller percentage. Define "supporter" and/or come back with a much stronger story pal. I think this explains the Labour antisemitism "crisis" rather succinctly....
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Post by felonious on Jul 16, 2019 6:54:49 GMT
'Over 200 current and former staff and supporters'? What does that even mean?! Is a supporter a current/former member? Donor? Volunteer? Simply someone who's voted Labour at least once? The current Labour membership is 512,000, and even as a percentage of THAT figure - a grand act of charity to the alarmist tone of your story - 200 people represents way less than 0.1%. The figure for "current and former staff AND supporters" probably goes well into the millions, rendering that 200 a much smaller percentage. Define "supporter" and/or come back with a much stronger story pal. I think this explains the Labour antisemitism "crisis" rather succinctly.... Oh I think that people understand the maths it's just that they're asking where the figure has come from? What is the population? Which cases are referred to? Are these the people expelled from the party only? Do they include the warnings of future behaviour, the reprimands, the downgraded slaps on the wrists? Do they include all those reported waiting to go through the once independent disciplinary process now tainted with top level political interference?
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Post by vokeswagen on Jul 16, 2019 8:33:10 GMT
I think this explains the Labour antisemitism "crisis" rather succinctly.... Oh I think that people understand the maths it's just that they're asking where the figure has come from? What is the population? Which cases are referred to? Are these the people expelled from the party only? Do they include the warnings of future behaviour, the reprimands, the downgraded slaps on the wrists? Do they include all those reported waiting to go through the once independent disciplinary process now tainted with top level political interference? This is the type of question I've asked fyd but apparently no clarification is needed. It's there in black and white
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