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Post by felonious on Jul 3, 2019 5:25:02 GMT
Latest research from Cancer Reasearch UK.
Each year in the UK, the charity says, excess weight causes about:
1,900 more cases of bowel cancer than smoking
1,400 more cases of kidney cancer
460 more cases of ovarian cancer
180 more cases of liver cancer
Prof Linda Bauld, Cancer Research UK's prevention expert, said the government should do more to tackle the UK's obesity problem.
The government had been slow to restrict unhealthy food and drink ads, the British Medical Association said.
"While we are very much aware of the health risks associated with smoking, less effort has been thrown behind tackling obesity, which is now a major cause of cancer," it said,
NHS England chief executive Simon Stevens said: "The NHS can't win the 'battle against the bulge' on its own.
"Families, food businesses and government all need to play their part if we're to avoid copying America's damaging and costly example."
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Post by metalhead on Jul 3, 2019 10:08:37 GMT
And of course, the most rational response to this, by various idiotic campaigners is to accuse Cancer Research of fat shaming.
I give the fuck up.
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Post by starkiller on Jul 3, 2019 10:22:16 GMT
Food should be banned from all public premises and people made to go outside to eat.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 3, 2019 18:54:52 GMT
Food should be banned from all public premises and people made to go outside to eat. The fact that most people 'pile it on' after packing in the fags is quite ironic  |
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jul 3, 2019 19:06:56 GMT
Moral of the story: smoking is fine.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jul 3, 2019 20:32:05 GMT
Is it that obesity causes more cases, or is it that the reduction in smokers means smoking causes fewer cases?
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Post by musik on Jul 3, 2019 20:58:04 GMT
Obesity causes less lung cancer and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease cases than smoking.
How come?
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Post by zerps on Jul 4, 2019 4:15:11 GMT
We do need concentration camps for fat people in this country. It’s the elephant in the room everyone has been avoiding.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2019 5:38:48 GMT
They’ll have you believing it’s just over eating and to an extent it is but, in my opinion it’s all down to the amount of processed food we are shovelling in ...pure poison....along with all the sugar in everything
The ratio of hi carbs (which turns to sugar), suturated fats and sugar itself
On saying that , if we are insistent on shoving all this shit in we should try and cut out snacking in between meals.......give our bodies a slim chance to recover
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Post by felonious on Jul 4, 2019 5:48:38 GMT
We do need concentration camps for fat people in this country. It’s the elephant in the room everyone has been avoiding. I think we've now reached the stage of elephants in the room. |
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Post by felonious on Jul 4, 2019 5:51:29 GMT
If it isn't food it's alcohol no wonder the NHS is under pressure.
One in five people admitted to a UK hospital drinks alcohol in a harmful way and one in 10 depends on it, a study suggests.
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Post by felonious on Jul 4, 2019 5:53:05 GMT
They’ll have you believing it’s just over eating and to an extent it is but, in my opinion it’s all down to the amount of processed food we are shovelling in ...pure poison....along with all the sugar in everything The ratio of hi carbs (which turns to sugar), suturated fats and sugar itself On saying that , if we are insistent on shoving all this shit in we should try and cut out snacking in between meals.......give our bodies a slim chance to recover Three meals a day would sort it all out eh? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2019 6:20:25 GMT
They’ll have you believing it’s just over eating and to an extent it is but, in my opinion it’s all down to the amount of processed food we are shovelling in ...pure poison....along with all the sugar in everything The ratio of hi carbs (which turns to sugar), suturated fats and sugar itself On saying that , if we are insistent on shoving all this shit in we should try and cut out snacking in between meals.......give our bodies a slim chance to recover Three meals a day would sort it all out eh? Be a good idea to cut it to 2......cut out breakfast but, some would call that extreme 🙄 i go 16 hours a day without food most of the time nowadays dont eat until lunch.....which is when I’m hungry and your body and mind feels great for it silly the way people just eat for the sake of eating a lot of processed shit is very inflammatory too so no wonder we are all taking shitloads of pills lifestyle change of clean food would help the nhs immensely.....and hurt the pharmaceuticals ....win win |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 4, 2019 8:16:28 GMT
Obesity makes profound changes to your body chemistry in nearly all systems. If people could see the effects it yields just like with smoking then it'd be a much smaller problem. The issue is the effects are far more insidious and less obvious to begin with.
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Post by Eggybread on Jul 4, 2019 8:26:17 GMT
Stoke has one of the highest cancer rates in the UK and are amongst the most obese in the country .  |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 4, 2019 8:34:03 GMT
Stoke has one of the highest cancer rates in the UK and are amongst the most obese in the country . No surprise really, poor area, poor rates of food education, bad food is usually cheap, kids don't get taught how to cook, kids eat shit, kids get fat, kids have kids. Rinse and repeat. That's before we get onto any other factors too. |
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Jul 4, 2019 8:40:01 GMT
Cheap, quick fix, processed foods are to blame. As mentioned above, they are horrendous.
Life is so busy now that people see eating good food a luxury.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 4, 2019 8:42:13 GMT
Cheap, quick fix, processed foods are to blame. As mentioned above, they are horrendous. Life is so busy now that people see eating good food a luxury. It's a complete fallacy really, how kids don't get taught some really basic recipes that you can knock up in 10 minutes at school, with fresh ingredients is beyond me. Then I remember my Food Tech classes and I'm not remotely surprised. |
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Post by cerebralstokie on Jul 4, 2019 12:01:13 GMT
The top three causes of early death seem to be smoking, excessive drinking and obesity. All 3 are at considerable cost to the N.H.S. Boris has proposed ditching "sin taxes". Surely if you indulge in food/drink/smoke which leads to health problems it is not unreasonable to expect to pay for the privilege even over and above normal levels of taxation.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Jul 4, 2019 15:00:07 GMT
I work for the NHS and the levels of obesity we are seeing is shocking.
We have parents coming onto the childrens wards (Cheethams) bringing bags full of cheeseburgers, McFlurrys and all the other shit, to feed sick children.
Try to persuade them not to and you get a load of verbal abuse.
It's like some people think it's 'their right' to eat as much as they like without any thought about the consequences to themselves or their families.
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Post by elystokie on Jul 4, 2019 15:46:00 GMT
Cheap, quick fix, processed foods are to blame. As mentioned above, they are horrendous. Life is so busy now that people see eating good food a luxury. It's a complete fallacy really, how kids don't get taught some really basic recipes that you can knock up in 10 minutes at school, with fresh ingredients is beyond me. Then I remember my Food Tech classes and I'm not remotely surprised. I think we could help ourselves a lot as well as the schools teaching the kids. There's plenty of programmes on the telly showing us how to cook healthy, reasonably priced meals, I'd imagine there's a few on YouTube too, most of the time they can be knocked up quicker than a takeaway delivery can get there. Having said that we had a takeaway delivered last night, cost about £13 for about £3 worth of food, very nice but I wish I could've been bothered to cook and it'll be a while before we have another. |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 4, 2019 15:50:05 GMT
It's a complete fallacy really, how kids don't get taught some really basic recipes that you can knock up in 10 minutes at school, with fresh ingredients is beyond me. Then I remember my Food Tech classes and I'm not remotely surprised. I think we could help ourselves a lot as well as the schools teaching the kids. There's plenty of programmes on the telly showing us how to cook healthy, reasonably priced meals, I'd imagine there's a few on YouTube too, most of the time they can be knocked up quicker than a takeaway delivery can get there. Having said that we had a takeaway delivered last night, cost about £13 for about £3 worth of food, very nice but I wish I could've been bothered to cook and it'll be a while before we have another. Absolutely but that comes down to the parent in most cases, and in a lot cases we’re talking about they sadly just don’t give a shit. |
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Post by elystokie on Jul 4, 2019 15:53:47 GMT
I think we could help ourselves a lot as well as the schools teaching the kids. There's plenty of programmes on the telly showing us how to cook healthy, reasonably priced meals, I'd imagine there's a few on YouTube too, most of the time they can be knocked up quicker than a takeaway delivery can get there. Having said that we had a takeaway delivered last night, cost about £13 for about £3 worth of food, very nice but I wish I could've been bothered to cook and it'll be a while before we have another. Absolutely but that comes down to the parent in most cases, and in a lot cases we’re talking about they sadly just don’t give a shit. Maybe it would be cost effective for the government to run some localised free cookery classes? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2019 15:57:52 GMT
They’ll have you believing it’s just over eating and to an extent it is but, in my opinion it’s all down to the amount of processed food we are shovelling in ...pure poison....along with all the sugar in everything The ratio of hi carbs (which turns to sugar), suturated fats and sugar itself On saying that , if we are insistent on shoving all this shit in we should try and cut out snacking in between meals.......give our bodies a slim chance to recover Exactly and what do they expect when the bad food is often cheaper, when you've now got to have both parents in families working all the time to pay bills and no-one has time to cook proper meals and everyone is having to work 24/7 these days and there's so many sat at a desk jobs. I suppose they'll find a way to just further tax us as a result of this whilst accepting large donations from the businesses that peddle these products. |
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Post by musik on Jul 4, 2019 22:00:57 GMT
I work for the NHS and the levels of obesity we are seeing is shocking. We have parents coming onto the childrens wards (Cheethams) bringing bags full of cheeseburgers, McFlurrys and all the other shit, to feed sick children. Try to persuade them not to and you get a load of verbal abuse. It's like some people think it's 'their right' to eat as much as they like without any thought about the consequences to themselves or their families. I sometimes watch a tv program called "My 600 lb life", and I get frustrated from time to time watching all these feeders the parents are to their really fat children who are unable to walk at the age of 20 ... |
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 5, 2019 8:55:28 GMT
Slight change of tack but has anyone seen the Aussie surgeon who has rewired nerves to allow people with spinal injuries to move their hands again!!! Amazing 🤞
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Post by musik on Jul 5, 2019 9:23:13 GMT
Slight change of tack but has anyone seen the Aussie surgeon who has rewired nerves to allow people with spinal injuries to move their hands again!!! Amazing 🤞 Since I like science I sometimes watch that kind of programs on Axess tv, Kunskapskanalen, Discovery Science et cetera. What you've mentioned is familiar to me. I heard about it a couple of years ago. Maybe it has been used in practice clinically now? Great step! |
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 5, 2019 9:30:11 GMT
Slight change of tack but has anyone seen the Aussie surgeon who has rewired nerves to allow people with spinal injuries to move their hands again!!! Amazing 🤞 Since I like science I sometimes watch that kind of programs on Axess tv, Kunskapskanalen, Discovery Science et cetera. What you've mentioned is familiar to me. I heard about it a couple of years ago. Maybe it has been used in practice clinically now? Great step! On the BBC news this morning I saw a paralysed man able to move his arms and hands for the first time since his accident. 16 of 19 patients are now able to move it's a wonderful thing. |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 5, 2019 10:34:30 GMT
Since I like science I sometimes watch that kind of programs on Axess tv, Kunskapskanalen, Discovery Science et cetera. What you've mentioned is familiar to me. I heard about it a couple of years ago. Maybe it has been used in practice clinically now? Great step! On the BBC news this morning I saw a paralysed man able to move his arms and hands for the first time since his accident. 16 of 19 patients are now able to move it's a wonderful thing. It's great stuff, working in a neuroscience/biomedical field it's difficult to explain just how amazing the procedure is. They'll not get their fine motor control back in any way with this, that's likely to be solved when we find a way to adequately replicate mature motor neurons and tissues. But this is a massive step. |
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Jul 5, 2019 19:56:41 GMT
Human endeavour is truly magnificent.For all the stupid shit our race does, we also do the most amazing things.
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