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Post by bathstoke on Jun 15, 2019 11:52:19 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 15, 2019 12:03:16 GMT
Then you have this going on.
The Indian labourer, who arrived in Britain on a student visa, told The Sun: 'I'm here to work. If I wanted to study I could have stayed in India.'
Sukhvinder told how if the council raided the shed where he pays rent then there are 'a thousand other places like this we can stay in'.
He also told how he thinks rogue landlords flout planning rules. 'You just have to say you're building a shed for tools. Once you've got the doors on, you can do what you like.'
Another immigrant told how he had been there for nine years and had never had a visit from the council.
It is believed there are 10,000 similar shacks in London and the Home Counties.
Many people who live in them are cash-in-hand manual workers who pay no tax.
A man claiming to be the landlord told the newspaper how he was currently building a shed at the bottom of his garden. He had built another five years earlier and charges £40 per person per week.
'It's up to you how many tenants you put in,' he said. 'I've had no problems from the council - not yet. You just say you are bulding a garage.'
Planning permission is always needed if a homeowner builds or converts an outbuilding for people to live in.
The Housing Act states that council officers must give 24 hours' notice before visiting properties.
This means evidence of people living in the garages and sheds can easily be removed, which has led to criticism of the system by some Ealing councillors.
An Ealing Council spokesman told The Sun: 'This is a growing problem across London. We wrote to the Government in July to highlight flaws in the law that mean we have to give written notice before we can enter a property, making it very hard to prove buildings are being used as accomodation.'
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Post by zerps on Jun 15, 2019 12:12:16 GMT
London is completely fucked and the bubble will burst soon enough
As for owning a second home, in an age where pensions are starting to mean fuck all, it’s essential for some people. You can’t blame them.
I’ve got 4. You’ve got to look after your own unfortunately. Nobody else will.
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 15, 2019 12:17:04 GMT
London is completely fucked and the bubble will burst soon enough As for owning a second home, in an age where pensions are starting to mean fuck all, it’s essential for some people. You can’t blame them. I’ve got 4. You’ve got to look after your own unfortunately. Nobody else will. I've got 4 sheds and am considering a few more after reading that
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Post by felonious on Jun 15, 2019 12:23:23 GMT
With you all the way on this one but whichever party tries to address it full on will face the wrath of the majority of homeowners. The Conservative have already started addressing the issue by taking away higher rate mortgage relief on buy to lets.
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Post by zerps on Jun 15, 2019 12:28:47 GMT
London is completely fucked and the bubble will burst soon enough As for owning a second home, in an age where pensions are starting to mean fuck all, it’s essential for some people. You can’t blame them. I’ve got 4. You’ve got to look after your own unfortunately. Nobody else will. I've got 4 sheds and am considering a few more after reading that Sell them in London someone will pay a million quid each
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 15, 2019 12:32:22 GMT
It has been estimated that there are around 10,000 concealed sheds and garages used to home illegal immigrants in and around London from which greedy landlords charge extortionate prices to illegal immigrants.
However, this problem is not only happening in London. Other cities like Birmingham, Leicester and Manchester also have similar cases, where illegal immigrants are being exploited. Councils are showing a lot of concern and are keen to crack down on unscrupulous Asian landlords taking advantage of illegals.
I have never really heard a great deal about this subject but this is scary and going on in this country.
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Post by zerps on Jun 15, 2019 12:34:23 GMT
It has been estimated that there are around 10,000 concealed sheds and garages used to home illegal immigrants in and around London from which greedy landlords charge extortionate prices to illegal immigrants.
However, this problem is not only happening in London. Other cities like Birmingham, Leicester and Manchester also have similar cases, where illegal immigrants are being exploited. Councils are showing a lot of concern and are keen to crack down on unscrupulous Asian landlords taking advantage of illegals.
I have never really heard a great deal about this subject but this is scary and going on in this country.
Scary thing is how many illegals there are
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 15, 2019 12:41:32 GMT
It has been estimated that there are around 10,000 concealed sheds and garages used to home illegal immigrants in and around London from which greedy landlords charge extortionate prices to illegal immigrants.
However, this problem is not only happening in London. Other cities like Birmingham, Leicester and Manchester also have similar cases, where illegal immigrants are being exploited. Councils are showing a lot of concern and are keen to crack down on unscrupulous Asian landlords taking advantage of illegals.
I have never really heard a great deal about this subject but this is scary and going on in this country.
Scary thing is how many illegals there are Apparently many of the Indian ones are begging for deportation, however because they have destroyed their passports to avoid detection they can't be so we are stuck with them many are in the prison system already.
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Post by zerps on Jun 15, 2019 14:04:17 GMT
Scary thing is how many illegals there are Apparently many of the Indian ones are begging for deportation, however because they have destroyed their passports to avoid detection they can't be so we are stuck with them many are in the prison system already. To be fair I’d beg to be deported from London
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Post by harryburrows on Jun 15, 2019 14:57:12 GMT
Lots of tenants are subletting council property to illegals in London
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2019 15:14:52 GMT
Was bored at work awhile back and ended up watching one of those morally bankrupt shows where they follow people around, think it was "Nightmare Tenants, Slum Landlords" and to be fair was unbelievable the sort of stuff that was being shown done by landlords
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 15, 2019 15:17:34 GMT
Lots of tenants are subletting council property to illegals in London Yet an amnesty was granted to those illegally sub letting flats in some cases to illegal immigrants. This from 2017:
Difficult questions will have to be addressed in time, however. And not just about attributing blame for the fire. What happened at Grenfell Tower isn’t simply about safety, it goes to the very heart of successive governments’ policies on immigration and social housing.
Ten per cent of those who died are said to be of Moroccan heritage. A further eight per cent were Ethiopian. To describe the residents of this block as a ‘community’ is a stretch. Grenfell Tower was a veritable Disunited Nations.
The days when most Londoners knew their neighbours are long gone. Today, the population is drawn from all over the globe, a significant proportion of them probably here illegally.
Forgive me for repeating the story of how a former Met Police commissioner told me 15 years ago that there were at least 250,000 people in London that the authorities knew nothing about.
Goodness knows what that figure is today, but those responsible for finding out seem not to have the slightest interest.
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 15, 2019 15:19:01 GMT
Apparently many of the Indian ones are begging for deportation, however because they have destroyed their passports to avoid detection they can't be so we are stuck with them many are in the prison system already. To be fair I’d beg to be deported from London Yet they still keep coming, must be the weather that attracts them, nothing to do with free this and free that at all.
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Post by musik on Jun 15, 2019 15:33:16 GMT
It happens when the wealth distribution is skewed. The one who owns a house are more likely to own another one. It's like the situation in Sweden. If you have a house of your own, you are more likely to have another one abroad. Then you also have not one car, but 2-3, you are not on vacation every 5th or 10th year, but 2-3 year on family trips in 5-star hotels, not in guest houses, fancy food, wine and clothes. Everything goes hand in hand. But hey, studies and reports I've read a long time ago says people in many African countries are happier than the well off people in Sweden, so ...
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Post by xchpotter on Jun 15, 2019 16:02:06 GMT
London is completely fucked and the bubble will burst soon enough As for owning a second home, in an age where pensions are starting to mean fuck all, it’s essential for some people. You can’t blame them. I’ve got 4. You’ve got to look after your own unfortunately. Nobody else will. It is, but when it does burst we will get sprayed with the festering shit of London through more of their displacement and re location schemes. Bollocks to them, they want to be so bloody cosmopolitan with their rich diversity, well look after whatever problems you create and don’t let it impact on others.
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Post by zerps on Jun 15, 2019 16:29:04 GMT
To be fair I’d beg to be deported from London Yet they still keep coming, must be the weather that attracts them, nothing to do with free this and free that at all. It’s the friendly locals
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Post by zerps on Jun 15, 2019 16:30:16 GMT
London is completely fucked and the bubble will burst soon enough As for owning a second home, in an age where pensions are starting to mean fuck all, it’s essential for some people. You can’t blame them. I’ve got 4. You’ve got to look after your own unfortunately. Nobody else will. It is, but when it does burst we will get sprayed with the festering shit of London through more of their displacement and re location schemes. Bollocks to them, they want to be so bloody cosmopolitan with their rich diversity, well look after whatever problems you create and don’t let it impact on others. Once the overpriced housing market collapses it’ll all come crashing down. Unsustainable
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Post by Northy on Jun 15, 2019 16:57:19 GMT
It has been estimated that there are around 10,000 concealed sheds and garages used to home illegal immigrants in and around London from which greedy landlords charge extortionate prices to illegal immigrants.
However, this problem is not only happening in London. Other cities like Birmingham, Leicester and Manchester also have similar cases, where illegal immigrants are being exploited. Councils are showing a lot of concern and are keen to crack down on unscrupulous Asian landlords taking advantage of illegals.
I have never really heard a great deal about this subject but this is scary and going on in this country.
Saw it on a tv programme last year, somebody sent a drone down a load of back gardens, each one had a shed converted to poor living quarters
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 15, 2019 20:25:09 GMT
More sheds needed or will we send them back ????????
Sky News Forty migrants intercepted in English Channel
a boat is docked next to a body of water: Migrants aboard the Border Force boat© Sky News Screen Grab Migrants aboard the Border Force boat Two boats holding 40 migrants, including adult men, women and children, have been intercepted in the English Channel.
The interceptions by Border Force vessels were separate incidents and come as the Home Office warns about the risks of making the dangerous journey on unsuitable vessels.
Back in December, Home Secretary Sajid Javid declared a major incident after a sharp rise in the number of migrants being picked up by UK authorities while attempting the crossing.
Government figures revealed 539 migrants attempted to travel to the UK on small boats in 2018, with around 80% attempting it in the last three months of the year.
According to the Home Office, the migrants attempting the crossing on Saturday presented themselves as being from Pakistan, Iran and Afghanistan.
They have been medically assessed and transferred to immigration officers for interview.
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Post by questionable on Jun 15, 2019 20:38:19 GMT
My son rents and was telephoned last week by the letting agent asking him to call in, luckily enough I was with him.
They informed him that his monthly rent was going up as they were no longer allowed to charge fees, I went nuts with the letting agent who eventually backed down, robbing bastards trying it on.
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Post by franklin66 on Jun 17, 2019 14:41:04 GMT
More sheds needed or will we send them back ????????
Sky News Forty migrants intercepted in English Channel
a boat is docked next to a body of water: Migrants aboard the Border Force boat© Sky News Screen Grab Migrants aboard the Border Force boat Two boats holding 40 migrants, including adult men, women and children, have been intercepted in the English Channel.
The interceptions by Border Force vessels were separate incidents and come as the Home Office warns about the risks of making the dangerous journey on unsuitable vessels.
Back in December, Home Secretary Sajid Javid declared a major incident after a sharp rise in the number of migrants being picked up by UK authorities while attempting the crossing.
Government figures revealed 539 migrants attempted to travel to the UK on small boats in 2018, with around 80% attempting it in the last three months of the year.
According to the Home Office, the migrants attempting the crossing on Saturday presented themselves as being from Pakistan, Iran and Afghanistan.
They have been medically assessed and transferred to immigration officers for interview.
I thought it was quite simple to present at the first country as a refugee/ immigrant? As we are an island it's impossible to get here by land without crossing a boarder no claim send straight back simple solution, no forms no appeals back you go they will soon stop.
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 17, 2019 15:01:59 GMT
More sheds needed or will we send them back ????????
Sky News Forty migrants intercepted in English Channel
a boat is docked next to a body of water: Migrants aboard the Border Force boat© Sky News Screen Grab Migrants aboard the Border Force boat Two boats holding 40 migrants, including adult men, women and children, have been intercepted in the English Channel.
The interceptions by Border Force vessels were separate incidents and come as the Home Office warns about the risks of making the dangerous journey on unsuitable vessels.
Back in December, Home Secretary Sajid Javid declared a major incident after a sharp rise in the number of migrants being picked up by UK authorities while attempting the crossing.
Government figures revealed 539 migrants attempted to travel to the UK on small boats in 2018, with around 80% attempting it in the last three months of the year.
According to the Home Office, the migrants attempting the crossing on Saturday presented themselves as being from Pakistan, Iran and Afghanistan.
They have been medically assessed and transferred to immigration officers for interview.
I thought it was quite simple to present at the first country as a refugee/ immigrant? As we are an island it's impossible to get here by land without crossing a boarder no claim send straight back simple solution, no forms no appeals back you go they will soon stop. More breakdown in the law to placate immigrants even illegal immigrants, they should be turned around and made to go back the way the came, why do they come here is it because we are as soft as shit and they get free hand outs ?
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Post by metalhead on Jun 17, 2019 16:39:09 GMT
I've done quite well in my career and I've been considering buying a second home as an investment with the intention of renting it out. Lazy opportunist, or just someone (from a working class background) who has worked damned fucking hard in his career after working damned fucking hard at University to graduate with a good degree? I'll let you answer that one mate.
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 17, 2019 20:48:33 GMT
I've done quite well in my career and I've been considering buying a second home as an investment with the intention of renting it out. Lazy opportunist, or just someone (from a working class background) who has worked damned fucking hard in his career after working damned fucking hard at University to graduate with a good degree? I'll let you answer that one mate. Capitalist pig, have a thought for those who want everything given to them , I bought my first property at 20 years of age in the 80's and really stretched myself financially to buy in a good area for my future family, I worked away from home for twelve months steel erecting all over the country saved a deposit of £1300 including the sale of my car, put on short time just after that, to make ends meet I took two part time jobs as well to pay the mortgage which I kept even after going back to full time engineering to pay for improvements to the house, sold it at a huge profit and reinvested in another and on and on, then you get called a lucky bastard by others who pissed their money up the wall you worked hard for it use it wisely you deserve it fuck the naysayers
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jun 18, 2019 7:31:26 GMT
Buy to let needs to be offset by the building of houses that are exclusive for first time buyers, we're seeing dramatic trends in lack of ownership among people under 30. Deposits are massively inflated compared to previous decades and the supply just continues to be strangled. I'm a university graduate currently working towards a PhD (essential for my area of work) and the salary I'll be on after I graduate assuming I stick around as a post-doc will only get me enough for a deposit (even with high saving) in around 12 years or so....by which time I'll be nearly 40.
Fortunately the nature of what I do means I can relatively easily upsticks and head abroad, but I know for a lot of people that simply isn't an option.
As for owning a second home and renting I don't have an issue with it per se, if you have a second home it's likely you've worked hard and deserve your success. The only caveat I have is that good landlords seem in the absolute minority and though I'm in a great place now, in the past half the battle has seemingly just being fighting the owner about one issue or another.
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Post by redstriper on Jun 18, 2019 7:45:54 GMT
I have a second home which gets rented out to holidaymakers - the council tax has already been doubled last year to raise more money, which is allegedly going to be channelled to first time buyers. I'm not complaining about this but going after people like me who started with nowt is the easy target, meanwhile half the worlds wealth resides with the super rich who pay people to find ways to avoid paying their dues.
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Post by zerps on Jun 18, 2019 7:48:20 GMT
I have a second home which gets rented out to holidaymakers - the council tax has already been doubled last year to raise more money, which is allegedly going to be channelled to first time buyers. I'm not complaining about this but going after people like me who started with nowt is the easy target, meanwhile half the worlds wealth resides with the super rich who pay people to find ways to avoid paying their dues. People need holidays and people need to rent. It’s funny how someone owning a house is now a problem.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jun 18, 2019 7:59:39 GMT
I have a second home which gets rented out to holidaymakers - the council tax has already been doubled last year to raise more money, which is allegedly going to be channelled to first time buyers. I'm not complaining about this but going after people like me who started with nowt is the easy target, meanwhile half the w orlds wealth resides with the super rich who pay people to find ways to avoid paying their dues.
That would be because they are, or are lobbying the people coming after you with taxes. Rather you than them, sadly.
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Post by metalhead on Jun 18, 2019 8:59:06 GMT
As for owning a second home and renting I don't have an issue with it per se, if you have a second home it's likely you've worked hard and deserve your success. The only caveat I have is that good landlords seem in the absolute minority and though I'm in a great place now, in the past half the battle has seemingly just being fighting the owner about one issue or another. Thanks mate, appreciate the validation. Here's the thing, I ain't the son of a wealthy aristocrat. I haven't inherited half a million quid and hoovered up a truck load of properties to make an easy buck. I continue to work 5 days a week and actually, I can relate somewhat to @crapslinger and his motivations. For a several years (after the breakdown of my previous relationship) I didn't have a pot to piss in really. When I look back, I can't believe how lucky I was that life seemingly didn't deal me one of those unfortunate blows, like a broken down car or burst plumbing main during that entire time. I would have genuinely been up shit creek without a paddle. Life has more than made up for it since then, however I am now financially far better off and able to manage life's curveballs. I purchased my house on a 5 year product while in my relationship and while she took off scot-free, I was left with the mortgage on a house I didn't want and struggling to pay the bills. I lived cheque to cheque and even took out an overdraft just to pad it a little. Subsequently, through a lot of hard work, I landed a lucrative contracting role which helped secure my future financially. However, as I am career driven and constantly looking towards the future, after several months of contracting..... I took on a permanent role AS WELL! I often did my contracting work on Sunday's when others were recovering from their away day hangovers in bed with Pizza.... I was sat with double vision looking at a computer screen. There are many weeks I tipped the 80 hour barrier..... I am still contracting and working a permanent role now, but I've dialled back the contracting work to a more manageable amount and ultimately, this is a great way to supplement the income from my permanent role.... oh and btw, they're on about promoting me in my permanent role because I've performed so well this year (despite doing a second job as well). ....but I'm just a lazy opportunist really.
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