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Post by crapslinger on Jun 14, 2019 18:45:29 GMT
Longton was awesome in the 80's, I worked at Sampson Bridgewoods, prior to it being called Churchill, met loads of awesome people, but sadly parts of Longton have given it a bad name in general. But yes, Mo is British, as he is Longton born and bred, not sure which part, as it has spread somewhat over the years. I started work at Shaw & Copestake in 1980. Went bust not long after. Also remember seeing the Fall Half-Man Half-Biscuit &, Sigue Sigue Sputnik at Shellys in the 1980s before it became the Laserdome about 1990. My grandparents lived down Goms Mill too. Loved Longton in those days. What a shit tip it's turned into. It's akin to a third world slum without the sun in places, it's just so sad to see the state of the place, so many fond memories lost forever in a sea of deprivation and shit.
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 14, 2019 18:47:52 GMT
I really don't get the moral indignation and offence Who really cares? Good for you I care when these champagne socialist gammon faced hypocrites think they can say whatever they want to with no consequences.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jun 14, 2019 18:50:13 GMT
Is what Jo Brand said incredibly stupid? Yes. Is saying stupid things illegal? No. Should she have to apologise? No. Should she be sacked? No. Should the police be involved? No. Are there a bunch of massive hypocrites out there who were screaming about 'hate crimes' & wanting people sacked/censored/arrested/etc... For teaching tricks to dogs or burning bits of cardboard etc... Who're suddenly talking about "it's just a joke", "Context is everything" etc...? Yes. Have those of us who warned from the get go that this is how it would all end up been proved right? Yes.
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Post by Goonie on Jun 14, 2019 18:55:40 GMT
It's interesting how Farage is playing the victim - yet much of Brand's humour is about how women are victims of men (which they statistically often - but not always - are) There is this obsession in our culture about who is a victim and who is victimising - I find it quite alarming really - those in the public eye are garnering public sympathy by generating moral outrage over words said, not always deeds done - words
Trying to win political arguments by feigning victimhood
It's the same with any political extreme either end of the poles be they leftist, with their political correctness or fascist with their justification for hatred based on how they are victimised by those minorities
Jordon Peterson speaks well on the subject of the dangers of victimhood
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Jun 14, 2019 19:00:31 GMT
I started work at Shaw & Copestake in 1980. Went bust not long after. Also remember seeing the Fall Half-Man Half-Biscuit &, Sigue Sigue Sputnik at Shellys in the 1980s before it became the Laserdome about 1990. My grandparents lived down Goms Mill too. Loved Longton in those days. What a shit tip it's turned into. It's akin to a third world slum without the sun in places, it's just so sad to see the state of the place, so many fond memories lost forever in a sea of deprivation and shit. Remember walking along Sutherland Road every morning on my way from the bus station to Shaw & Copestake. It was absolutely rammed with pot banks. That many people walked along that road at that time you had to walk in the road sometimes. Now there's nothing left. So sad.
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 14, 2019 19:08:59 GMT
It's akin to a third world slum without the sun in places, it's just so sad to see the state of the place, so many fond memories lost forever in a sea of deprivation and shit. Remember walking along Sutherland Road every morning on my way from the bus station to Shaw & Copestake. It was absolutely rammed with pot banks. That many people walked along that road at that time you had to walk in the road sometimes. Now there's nothing left. So sad. All those white clad pott bank workers covered in white dust on the streets at dinner time was a site to behold, hard working decent people now gone replaced with the under class dossers taking or pushing drugs, black beemers driven by knob heads with some incomprehensible shit music blaring out of the open windows driving around the place.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Jun 14, 2019 19:11:27 GMT
Remember walking along Sutherland Road every morning on my way from the bus station to Shaw & Copestake. It was absolutely rammed with pot banks. That many people walked along that road at that time you had to walk in the road sometimes. Now there's nothing left. So sad. All those white clad pott bank workers covered in white dust on the streets at dinner time was a site to behold, hard working decent people now gone replaced with the under class dossers taking or pushing drugs, black beemers driven by knob heads with some incomprehensible shit music blaring out of the open windows driving around the place. Too right mate. It's as bad as Burslem đ
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 14, 2019 19:11:44 GMT
It's akin to a third world slum without the sun in places, it's just so sad to see the state of the place, so many fond memories lost forever in a sea of deprivation and shit. Remember walking along Sutherland Road every morning on my way from the bus station to Shaw & Copestake. It was absolutely rammed with pot banks. That many people walked along that road at that time you had to walk in the road sometimes. Now there's nothing left. So sad. The pots Christmas knock off day used to be so busy there were mounted Police in Longton Town Centre! It was carnage but wonderful, bustling, carnage. Not quite prosperous but everyone was earning. Times change and not always for the better.
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Jo Brand
Jun 14, 2019 19:12:44 GMT
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Post by Goonie on Jun 14, 2019 19:12:44 GMT
I really don't get the moral indignation and offence Who really cares? Good for you I care when these champagne socialist gammon faced hypocrites think they can say whatever they want to with no consequences. I've written something further in the thread about the use(abuse) of victimhood to win public support on both sides of the political spectrum so I agree with you there The danger with identifying with a specific social group with a specific trait is highly dangerous and both the left and right exploit this The whole Left/Right polarisation of politics is 19th century in origin and needs binning as it doesn't fit the modern world Common sense and libertarianism fuelling pragmatism will save the day Ideologies are just ideas and rarely hold water in the real world so for me the whole moral indignation thing is just part of that left/right bullshit debate and needs consigning to the past
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Jun 14, 2019 19:18:43 GMT
Remember walking along Sutherland Road every morning on my way from the bus station to Shaw & Copestake. It was absolutely rammed with pot banks. That many people walked along that road at that time you had to walk in the road sometimes. Now there's nothing left. So sad. The pots Christmas knock off day used to be so busy there were mounted Police in Longton Town Centre! It was carnage but wonderful, bustling, carnage. Not quite prosperous but everyone was earning. Times change and not always for the better. Dead right. The pot banks.. Florence Colliery.. Plenty of relatively well paid jobs. Now its just car parks and supermarkets and zero hours wages.
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 14, 2019 19:23:29 GMT
Good for you I care when these champagne socialist gammon faced hypocrites think they can say whatever they want to with no consequences. I've written something further in the thread about the use(abuse) of victimhood to win public support on both sides of the political spectrum so I agree with you there The danger with identifying with a specific social group with a specific trait is highly dangerous and both the left and right exploit this The whole Left/Right polarisation of politics is 19th century in origin and needs binning as it doesn't fit the modern world Common sense and libertarianism fuelling pragmatism will save the day Ideologies are just ideas and rarely hold water in the real world so for me the whole moral indignation thing is just part of that left/right bullshit debate and needs consigning to the past I agree but fear it's gone to far, the real damage is done with perceived injustice when one side is treated unfairly with no proportional justice applied, the whole Brexit fiasco and the denial of democracy will have deep implications for generations, we need a strong leader to grab the nettle, sort out the elephants in the room and rip them out by the roots.
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 14, 2019 19:36:32 GMT
The pots Christmas knock off day used to be so busy there were mounted Police in Longton Town Centre! It was carnage but wonderful, bustling, carnage. Not quite prosperous but everyone was earning. Times change and not always for the better. Dead right. The pot banks.. Florence Colliery.. Plenty of relatively well paid jobs. Now its just car parks and supermarkets and zero hours wages. Why are there so many garages as in repairs around Longton especially on Uttoxeter road ? is Walkers toffee factory still going ? so many old household factory names gone forever, why was there no investment from the local council to rescue the pottery industry that had brought so much to our area ?
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Jun 14, 2019 19:51:29 GMT
Dead right. The pot banks.. Florence Colliery.. Plenty of relatively well paid jobs. Now its just car parks and supermarkets and zero hours wages. Why are there so many garages as in repairs around Longton especially on Uttoxeter road ? is Walkers toffee factory still going ? so many old household factory names gone forever, why was there no investment from the local council to rescue the pottery industry that had brought so much to our area ? I still get my car tyres from a garage down Uttoxeter Road Most pot banks exported there stuff Shaw & Copestake exported 85%. When interest rates went through the roof in the early 1980s they lost most of those exports and went bust. Same with other pot banks. In 1979 50,000 were employed directly or indirectly in the pottery industry in Stoke on Trent. By 1990 less than 9000
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 14, 2019 19:58:37 GMT
Dead right. The pot banks.. Florence Colliery.. Plenty of relatively well paid jobs. Now its just car parks and supermarkets and zero hours wages. Why are there so many garages as in repairs around Longton especially on Uttoxeter road ? is Walkers toffee factory still going ? so many old household factory names gone forever, why was there no investment from the local council to rescue the pottery industry that had brought so much to our area ? That sort of funding is the responsibility of Central Government not Local. We were let down massively by both.
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Jo Brand
Jun 14, 2019 20:22:32 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Jun 14, 2019 20:22:32 GMT
I thought that a joke was something funny, suggesting throwing acid at politicians you don't agree with potentially disfiguring /maiming them isn't !, it's not a joke just a sick comment from a deranged or dangerous minded person who has already stated it was not a mistake so she meant it as she said it, at least it's a hate crime at worst incitement to violence either way she needs arresting and the BBC need to answer for their lack of action in this case. Thoughts on Carl Benjamin?
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Jun 14, 2019 20:28:00 GMT
Why are there so many garages as in repairs around Longton especially on Uttoxeter road ? is Walkers toffee factory still going ? so many old household factory names gone forever, why was there no investment from the local council to rescue the pottery industry that had brought so much to our area ? That sort of funding is the responsibility of Central Government not Local. We were let down massively by both. More Central than local. Remember Rate Capping? Selling off council houses and not replacing them? Huge cuts in public spending? And an opposition in disarray Ring any bells?
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Post by thevoid on Jun 14, 2019 20:32:33 GMT
For Farage to be affronted, a man whose whole career is based on provocative rhetoric, dog whistle Politics, invoking a bygone imperialist age of Britain's militaristic past, takes the fucking biscuit. The bloke is a grade A cunt and a hypocritical one at that. House!
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 14, 2019 20:34:35 GMT
I thought that a joke was something funny, suggesting throwing acid at politicians you don't agree with potentially disfiguring /maiming them isn't !, it's not a joke just a sick comment from a deranged or dangerous minded person who has already stated it was not a mistake so she meant it as she said it, at least it's a hate crime at worst incitement to violence either way she needs arresting and the BBC need to answer for their lack of action in this case. Thoughts on Carl Benjamin? He's a loudmouth vile prick that got milkshaked twice, what happened to the people who assaulted him were they charged with any offence ? at least it wasn't acid though as Jo Brand advocates a dangerous pattern emerging from the left wing loons the new facists on our streets.
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Post by thevoid on Jun 14, 2019 20:35:19 GMT
I think it's our friend eggy you need to advise, he seems to think Farage has a safari suit and rifle in his glovebox. I can tell hyperbole/metaphor when I see it. So you believe Jo Brand has battery acid in her glovebox? Have I mentioned Jo Brand or demanded any action against her in my previous postings here? What a strange person you are.
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 14, 2019 20:44:06 GMT
Why are there so many garages as in repairs around Longton especially on Uttoxeter road ? is Walkers toffee factory still going ? so many old household factory names gone forever, why was there no investment from the local council to rescue the pottery industry that had brought so much to our area ? That sort of funding is the responsibility of Central Government not Local. We were let down massively by both. Yet the local government gave millions of tax payers money to Port Vale with no return and nothing to Royal Doulton just down the road, central government gave away billions of taxpayers money to save the banks with no return, who was lobbying for our interests at the time in Parliament ?
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Jo Brand
Jun 14, 2019 20:47:12 GMT
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 14, 2019 20:47:12 GMT
For Farage to be affronted, a man whose whole career is based on provocative rhetoric, dog whistle Politics, invoking a bygone imperialist age of Britain's militaristic past, takes the fucking biscuit. The bloke is a grade A cunt and a hypocritical one at that. House! I know, he's nothing if not a predictable charlatan of a human being isn't he? Half of me looks forward to the day we exit possibly on WTO rules and Nigel shimmies back to the City of London to take advantage of all you saps! đ
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 14, 2019 20:50:41 GMT
That sort of funding is the responsibility of Central Government not Local. We were let down massively by both. Yet the local government gave millions of tax payers money to Port Vale with no return and nothing to Royal Doulton just down the road, central government gave away billions of taxpayers money to save the banks with no return, who was lobbying for our interests at the time in Parliament ? Nationally, the Tories fucked this City and Labour did nothing to reatore it. Our Local Government was well intentioned but simply inept
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 14, 2019 20:51:59 GMT
No Police action to be taken against Brand another precedent set, crack on fruit cakes the world is your oyster what next advocating stabbing.
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Post by numpty40 on Jun 14, 2019 20:55:37 GMT
If only Farage could have laughed off Brand's vacuous 'comedy' he would have won even more support. As it is he looks a bit snowflake. A major opportunity lost, he does seem to lack basic common sense at times.
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 14, 2019 20:57:53 GMT
Yet the local government gave millions of tax payers money to Port Vale with no return and nothing to Royal Doulton just down the road, central government gave away billions of taxpayers money to save the banks with no return, who was lobbying for our interests at the time in Parliament ? Nationally, the Tories fucked this City and Labour did nothing to reatore it. Our Local Government was well intentioned but simply inept Inept or incompetent ? who sold all our gold reserves for peanuts and used them to prop up the banking sector after they raped the country legally ? who was lobbying on our behalf in Parliament ? , thatcher fcuked this area up the vicious vindictive bitch I hope she rots in hell.
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 14, 2019 21:15:54 GMT
If only Farage could have laughed off Brand's vacuous 'comedy' he would have won even more support. As it is he looks a bit snowflake. A major opportunity lost, he does seem to lack basic common sense at times. He's following the recent trend, after all snowflakes seem to get their own way if they cry and bitch moan for long enough
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Jo Brand
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Post by wilcopotter on Jun 15, 2019 6:26:29 GMT
Jo Brand supposed comedian is about as funny as a broken leg imo.
As for Nigel Farage, like him or not, by promising a EU referendum he changed the course of politics in this country. Why? Because his decision to do this forced Cameronâs hand to do the same because he feared losing the imminent election at that time as he probably felt he would lose too many Tory votes to them and lose the election. Donât think Cameron ever thought it would be a leave win imo.
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Post by salopstick on Jun 15, 2019 7:25:09 GMT
Police dropped it.
Good news
It was a very ill conceived joke but never a police matter
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Post by felonious on Jun 15, 2019 7:31:48 GMT
Remember walking along Sutherland Road every morning on my way from the bus station to Shaw & Copestake. It was absolutely rammed with pot banks. That many people walked along that road at that time you had to walk in the road sometimes. Now there's nothing left. So sad. The pots Christmas knock off day used to be so busy there were mounted Police in Longton Town Centre! It was carnage but wonderful, bustling, carnage. Not quite prosperous but everyone was earning. Times change and not always for the better. There was an interesting article on Radio Stoke from a women who had a film showing at the Film Theatre on women's roles in the pottery industry. She was saying that piece work was one of the only early examples of equal pay in the UK.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jun 15, 2019 8:27:33 GMT
Driving from Stoke to Longton around lunchtime is like driving through a nuclear wasteland. Where once there were people getting there snappin, there is now an emptiness. I worked at Aynesleys and Wegwoods in my youth and they were the happiest places I ever worked in, much better than so called better jobs! Interesting point on women. They ruled the Potbanks!
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