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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 12, 2019 19:01:07 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-pelly-ruddock-luton-2972217Stoke City hold an interest in Luton talisman Pelly-Ruddock Mpanzu – but will need to clear the decks if they are to re-balance their midfield department. Mark Cartwright’s team of scouts have been casting their nets far and wide as they look to find the right players for Nathan Jones's diamond system. They have been tracking a highly-rated young German midfielder but would face fierce competition for his signature. And Jones knows he can rely on Ruddock, aged 25, to operate anywhere in his diamond, including in the key defensive role.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 12, 2019 19:03:14 GMT
But sounds like it's maybe a German we want as our first choice as the holding midfielder?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 19:03:57 GMT
But sounds like it's maybe a German we want as our first choice as the holding midfielder? We want or the pizza crew want with a blessing from the manager?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 12, 2019 19:04:01 GMT
It’s beginning to be clear that the barrier of exiting players is growing in significance , I can see August being a very busy transfer month for us
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Post by kelw on Jun 12, 2019 19:04:36 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-pelly-ruddock-luton-2972217Stoke City hold an interest in Luton talisman Pelly-Ruddock Mpanzu – but will need to clear the decks if they are to re-balance their midfield department. Mark Cartwright’s team of scouts have been casting their nets far and wide as they look to find the right players for Nathan Jones's diamond system. They have been tracking a highly-rated young German midfielder but would face fierce competition for his signature. And Jones knows he can rely on Ruddock, aged 25, to operate anywhere in his diamond, including in the key defensive role. Is he the lovechild of a Brazilian and a fat ex Liverpool player? either way he's crap after I look him up on Wiki
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Post by LGH87 on Jun 12, 2019 19:07:09 GMT
But sounds like it's maybe a German we want as our first choice as the holding midfielder? I imagine you’re already working your magic, drawing up a potential shortlist as to who this mystery German could be
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Post by Goonie on Jun 12, 2019 19:08:17 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-pelly-ruddock-luton-2972217Stoke City hold an interest in Luton talisman Pelly-Ruddock Mpanzu – but will need to clear the decks if they are to re-balance their midfield department. Mark Cartwright’s team of scouts have been casting their nets far and wide as they look to find the right players for Nathan Jones's diamond system. They have been tracking a highly-rated young German midfielder but would face fierce competition for his signature. And Jones knows he can rely on Ruddock, aged 25, to operate anywhere in his diamond, including in the key defensive role. Is he the lovechild of a Brazilian and a fat ex Liverpool player? either way he's crap after I look him up on Wiki Sans reading specs I thought it was Belly Ruddock! 😁 Surely Razor's lovechild?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 12, 2019 19:08:31 GMT
What sort of a player is he?
If he’s a DM, the players we already have should be an irrelevance.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 12, 2019 19:08:57 GMT
But sounds like it's maybe a German we want as our first choice as the holding midfielder? We want or the pizza crew want with a blessing from the manager? Take the point - but , to be fair, the Pizzas are employed to come up with the best possible attainable names, aren't they? Isn't that them doing their job?
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jun 12, 2019 19:09:30 GMT
They have been tracking a highly-rated young German midfielder. Not old or experienced enough for this league. Wank Stoke. And Jones knows he can rely on Ruddock, aged 25, to operate anywhere in his diamond, including in the key defensive role. Too old, can't we find anyone younger from abroad? Wank Stoke. That should pretty much cover what will follow.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 19:11:58 GMT
We want or the pizza crew want with a blessing from the manager? Take the point - but , to be fair, the Pizzas are employed to come up with the best possible attainable names, aren't they? Isn't that them doing their job? Oh absolutely. I've been a fierce defendant of them this season. Our best signing last summer was one of theirs. No issues here. Just clarifying a point. 😉
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 12, 2019 19:12:01 GMT
We want or the pizza crew want with a blessing from the manager? Take the point - but , to be fair, the Pizzas are employed to come up with the best possible attainable names, aren't they? Isn't that them doing their job? It depends doesn’t it. I still don’t think it’s manager driven. Especially when someone so key to the whole bloody thing is on the board. It’s just not healthy.
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Post by markfitdt on Jun 12, 2019 19:12:08 GMT
It’s beginning to be clear that the barrier of exiting players is growing in significance , I can see August being a very busy transfer month for us Not after the 8th it wont as that is when the transfer deadline is this year.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 12, 2019 19:14:46 GMT
Take the point - but , to be fair, the Pizzas are employed to come up with the best possible attainable names, aren't they? Isn't that them doing their job? It depends doesn’t it. I still don’t think it’s manager driven. Especially when someone so key to the whole bloody thing is on the board. It’s just not healthy. It's ultimately his job to decide between the 4 or 5 options though, isn't it? But he can't drive the scouting operation. That's what the scouts are there for.
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Post by kelw on Jun 12, 2019 19:15:44 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-pelly-ruddock-luton-2972217Stoke City hold an interest in Luton talisman Pelly-Ruddock Mpanzu – but will need to clear the decks if they are to re-balance their midfield department. Mark Cartwright’s team of scouts have been casting their nets far and wide as they look to find the right players for Nathan Jones's diamond system. They have been tracking a highly-rated young German midfielder but would face fierce competition for his signature. And Jones knows he can rely on Ruddock, aged 25, to operate anywhere in his diamond, including in the key defensive role. They haven't pointed out which one his is in the photo. Possibly the guy with glasses from Revenge of the Nerds or the old fella on the right .It definately isn't the fella back right of the pic as that's the guitar player from Bow Wow Wow
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jun 12, 2019 19:21:40 GMT
If we are waiting to get rid of players before signing a defensive mid then what was the fucking point in making any of the other signings? They are all pointless unless we sort out the midfield.
If that is really true then we are going to fuck up another transfer window. Back the manager, that's the only way
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 12, 2019 19:22:56 GMT
It depends doesn’t it. I still don’t think it’s manager driven. Especially when someone so key to the whole bloody thing is on the board. It’s just not healthy. It's ultimately his job to decide between the 4 or 5 options though, isn't it? But he can't drive the scouting operation. That's what the scouts are there for. I don’t buy that the process is that cut and dry at all. They’ve interfered, offered the same players up to different managers, signed two players in January who don’t really match what Jones has said he wants etc. And it’ll be amusing if the scouting comes back to another Luton player. He sounds good though and Jones knows him so I can live with that. One in the eye for the process mind: Justin - Luton Ruddock - Luton Davies - Beswicks Whelan - player we had for nearly a decade Gregory - same agent as Vokes and a few others that have allegedly been on a list Powell - from the next town The German player that it sounds like we have no chance of signing is intriguing!
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jun 12, 2019 19:31:06 GMT
The German player that it sounds like we have no chance of signing is intriguing! "They have been tracking a highly-rated young German midfielder but would face fierce competition for his signature." Come on bayern that's just the Sentinel doing the clubs 'Newspeak', 'fierce competition' is an altered form of regular English designed and controlled by the Stoke in order to suppress free thought, individualism, and happiness! . I'm surprised you fell for it!
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jun 12, 2019 19:34:26 GMT
Casting the net far and wide?
Not quite sure they can say that when the player linked is from Luton....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 19:38:00 GMT
Top German midfielders from Bundesliga II (Aged 24 and under)
Top Tacklers: Atakan Karazor - Holstein Kiel Niklas Dorsch - FC Heidenheim Sebastian Schonlau - Paderborn Maximilian Thalhammer - Jahn Regensburg
Top Interceptors: Lukas Fröde - Duisburg Paul Jaeckel - Greuther Fuerth Sebastian Schonlau - Paderborn
Top Passers: Niklas Dorsch - FC Heidenheim Sebastian Schonlau - Paderborn
*Disclaimer. Before anyone starts crying. They are basic stats from whoscored.com, it's a bit of fun and if you don't like it, block me.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 12, 2019 19:39:18 GMT
Top German midfielders from Bundesliga II (Aged 24 and under) Top Tacklers:Atakan Karazor - Holstein Kiel Niklas Dorsch - FC Heidenheim Sebastian Schonlau - Paderborn Maximilian Thalhammer - Jahn Regensburg Top Interceptors:Lukas Fröde - Duisburg Paul Jaeckel - Greuther Fuerth Sebastian Schonlau - Paderborn Top Passers:Niklas Dorsch - FC Heidenheim Sebastian Schonlau - Paderborn *Disclaimer. Before anyone starts crying. They are basic stats from whoscored.com, it's a bit of fun and if you don't like it, block me. Dorsch was the name I'd plumped for after my quick google!
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 12, 2019 19:45:35 GMT
But sounds like it's maybe a German we want as our first choice as the holding midfielder? We want or the pizza crew want with a blessing from the manager? Essentially its the same thing.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 12, 2019 19:46:16 GMT
The German player that it sounds like we have no chance of signing is intriguing! "They have been tracking a highly-rated young German midfielder but would face fierce competition for his signature." Come on bayern that's just the Sentinel doing the clubs 'Newspeak', 'fierce competition' is an altered form of regular English designed and controlled by the Stoke in order to suppress free thought, individualism, and happiness! . I'm surprised you fell for it! Nah. This is classic pizza boy. Go after a player you know you can’t sign but show a bit of willing and the suckers will fall for it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 19:47:30 GMT
Top German midfielders from Bundesliga II (Aged 24 and under) Top Tacklers:Atakan Karazor - Holstein Kiel Niklas Dorsch - FC Heidenheim Sebastian Schonlau - Paderborn Maximilian Thalhammer - Jahn Regensburg Top Interceptors:Lukas Fröde - Duisburg Paul Jaeckel - Greuther Fuerth Sebastian Schonlau - Paderborn Top Passers:Niklas Dorsch - FC Heidenheim Sebastian Schonlau - Paderborn *Disclaimer. Before anyone starts crying. They are basic stats from whoscored.com, it's a bit of fun and if you don't like it, block me. Dorsch was the name I'd plumped for after my quick google! I'll go for Karazor. Holstein Kiel have been a revelation at that level, he is ex Dortmund II under Farke. Linked with Stuttgart. Jones was gushing over Farke and the job he did and how close he was to some of the recruitment people at Norwich. 2 + 2 = 10.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 12, 2019 19:50:33 GMT
It's ultimately his job to decide between the 4 or 5 options though, isn't it? But he can't drive the scouting operation. That's what the scouts are there for. I don’t buy that the process is that cut and dry at all. They’ve interfered, offered the same players up to different managers, signed two players in January who don’t really match what Jones has said he wants etc. And it’ll be amusing if the scouting comes back to another Luton player. He sounds good though and Jones knows him so I can live with that. One in the eye for the process mind: Justin - Luton Ruddock - Luton Davies - Beswicks Whelan - player we had for nearly a decade Gregory - same agent as Vokes and a few others that have allegedly been on a list Powell - from the next town The German player that it sounds like we have no chance of signing is intriguing! You say the players signed in Jan weren't what he wants but he made it very clear he wanted a focal point up front, enter Vokes a big lump of a focal point. Also if the scouting team thinks player A is a good player then why would their mind change with a new manager unless they go totally against what they want?
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Post by cousindupree on Jun 12, 2019 19:51:23 GMT
It's ultimately his job to decide between the 4 or 5 options though, isn't it? But he can't drive the scouting operation. That's what the scouts are there for. I don’t buy that the process is that cut and dry at all. They’ve interfered, offered the same players up to different managers, signed two players in January who don’t really match what Jones has said he wants etc. And it’ll be amusing if the scouting comes back to another Luton player. He sounds good though and Jones knows him so I can live with that. One in the eye for the process mind: Justin - Luton Ruddock - Luton Davies - Beswicks Whelan - player we had for nearly a decade Gregory - same agent as Vokes and a few others that have allegedly been on a list Powell - from the next town The German player that it sounds like we have no chance of signing is intriguing! Its not surprising that our net is cast so narrowly. The manager clearly has few contacts beyond Luton. Carto has a few agent contacts and a list of out of contract champ and div 1 players. 10yrs in the top league earning mega bucks and our recruitment seemingly could be done actually by even me over in Atlanta with a laptop!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 12, 2019 19:54:00 GMT
I don’t buy that the process is that cut and dry at all. They’ve interfered, offered the same players up to different managers, signed two players in January who don’t really match what Jones has said he wants etc. And it’ll be amusing if the scouting comes back to another Luton player. He sounds good though and Jones knows him so I can live with that. One in the eye for the process mind: Justin - Luton Ruddock - Luton Davies - Beswicks Whelan - player we had for nearly a decade Gregory - same agent as Vokes and a few others that have allegedly been on a list Powell - from the next town The German player that it sounds like we have no chance of signing is intriguing! You say the players signed in Jan weren't what he wants but he made it very clear he wanted a focal point up front, enter Vokes a big lump of a focal point. Also if the scouting team thinks player A is a good player then why would their mind change with a new manager unless they go totally against what they want? Vokes has been awful as a targetman so far. And because they’re two massively different managers with different requirements.
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Post by toppercorner on Jun 12, 2019 19:55:15 GMT
"Mark Cartwright’s team of scouts have been casting their nets far and wide as they look to find the right players for Nathan Jones's diamond system"
So far and wide, that it's come full circle, back to our new manager's old club of 6 months ago.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 12, 2019 19:56:03 GMT
You say the players signed in Jan weren't what he wants but he made it very clear he wanted a focal point up front, enter Vokes a big lump of a focal point. Also if the scouting team thinks player A is a good player then why would their mind change with a new manager unless they go totally against what they want? Vokes has been awful as a targetman so far. And because they’re two massively different managers with different requirements. Tbf to Vokes he hasn't been fit but he wanted a target man and he got one. As I said if the player totally goes against what the manager wants then fair enough, who have they offered up to Jones that they have another manager and goes against what he's after?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 12, 2019 19:56:46 GMT
"Mark Cartwright’s team of scouts have been casting their nets far and wide as they look to find the right players for Nathan Jones's diamond system" So far and wide, that it's come full circle, back to our new manager's old club of 6 months ago. And a German youngster..........
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