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Post by RICH68 on Jun 7, 2019 20:13:15 GMT
....Director of a working man’s ballet.
Anyone read it ?
Is it worth buying ?
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Post by nott1 on Jun 8, 2019 5:46:43 GMT
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Post by Gods on Jun 9, 2019 8:36:38 GMT
Fabulous picture on the cover, forced and clumsy sub-title!
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Post by StaffordPotter on Jun 9, 2019 9:19:04 GMT
Yeah I've read it, well worth a read.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2019 10:02:08 GMT
Can still remember the chants of Waddington Out emanating from the Boothen
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Post by kelw on Jun 9, 2019 16:36:31 GMT
Can still remember the chants of Waddington Out emanating from the Boothen Not like our fans to hound out a manager. Wonder how many of those are now calling him the best ever |
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Post by neilb987 on Jun 9, 2019 16:41:03 GMT
They were difficult times. Unfortunately Tony took all the flack that really should have been directed at the board and executives.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 9, 2019 17:10:53 GMT
They were difficult times. Unfortunately Tony took all the flack that really should have been directed at the board and executives. 1 life’s a circle 2 lessons learned ? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2019 17:14:29 GMT
I've never had a bad word against Tony Waddington. I loved those days, and they always will remain with me. It was an absolute pleasure to watch that team! Very happy days for me! To have met some of them was a dream come true, especially Denis Smith! What a man!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2019 17:28:38 GMT
The 1 mistake Waddo made was prioritising a new goalkeeper over a centre forward.
To think we could have got Malcolm MacDonald instead of Shilton,that would have pretty much guaranteed the title.
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Post by kelw on Jun 9, 2019 17:30:08 GMT
The 1 mistake Waddo made was prioritising a new goalkeeper over a centre forward. To think we could have got Malcolm MacDonald instead of Shilton,that would have pretty much guaranteed the title. Peter Osgood said he changed his mind last minute |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jun 9, 2019 17:38:54 GMT
Can still remember the chants of Waddington Out emanating from the Boothen There were lots of Henshall Out chants outside the main entrance! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2019 17:54:55 GMT
The 1 mistake Waddo made was prioritising a new goalkeeper over a centre forward. To think we could have got Malcolm MacDonald instead of Shilton,that would have pretty much guaranteed the title. Peter Osgood said he changed his mind last minute I believe that was earlier,the previous season when Hudson signed.We tried to buy them both and Osgood didn't fancy it oop north....Big Mac was available the following summer and we were linked with him in the press |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2019 17:55:34 GMT
Can still remember the chants of Waddington Out emanating from the Boothen There were lots of Henshall Out chants outside the main entrance! I was one of those chanting  |
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Post by mattador78 on Jun 9, 2019 18:07:51 GMT
Can still remember the chants of Waddington Out emanating from the Boothen Not like our fans to hound out a manager. Wonder how many of those are now calling him the best ever Not many probably see the golden years gone forever thread 😉 |
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Post by Gods on Jun 9, 2019 18:30:49 GMT
Can still remember the chants of Waddington Out emanating from the Boothen Yes indeed there were. "Waddington OUT, Waddington OUT, Waddington OUT..." As clear as a bell! |
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jun 10, 2019 0:08:01 GMT
They were difficult times. Unfortunately Tony took all the flack that really should have been directed at the board and executives. Barclays Bank were calling in Stoke’s debt before the Butler Street roof came off. Who do you blame, Stoke’s board or Waddington for making signings for strong, strong money? Derby County gambled too and got two league titles but had a shitty ending like ourselves. |
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Post by kronkie on Jun 10, 2019 7:44:56 GMT
Anyone remember the horrible chant "waddington waddington is it true what they all say you are a jew".
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Post by durbanscircus on Jun 10, 2019 8:48:53 GMT
Anyone remember the horrible chant "waddington waddington is it true what they all say you are a jew". I never heard that...who sang it?...surely not us? |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 10, 2019 9:10:48 GMT
They were difficult times. Unfortunately Tony took all the flack that really should have been directed at the board and executives. Back in them days people were less informed on a club's administration. The internal finance of a club wasn't public knowledge like now. |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jun 10, 2019 9:33:45 GMT
Can still remember the chants of Waddington Out emanating from the Boothen Yes indeed there were. "Waddington OUT, Waddington OUT, Waddington OUT..." As clear as a bell! I well remember the very un-PC chant, after we had to sell the club gold, to the Grocer Jack song tune........ Waddington, Waddington, Is it true What they all say, You are a Jew, Oh yeh, yeh. Very unfair as he didn’t hold the purse strings, that was Henshall. He returned to the club as Associate Director in 1991until he sadly died in 1994. The book is on my bucket list for Christmas. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 10, 2019 10:15:36 GMT
Can still remember the chants of Waddington Out emanating from the Boothen Me too. Home to Lester. |
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Post by str8outtahampton on Jun 10, 2019 10:23:57 GMT
Yes indeed there were. "Waddington OUT, Waddington OUT, Waddington OUT..." As clear as a bell! Isell remember the very un-PC chant, after we had to sell the club gold, to the Grocer Jack song tune........ Waddington, Waddington, Is it true What they all say, You are a Jew, Oh yeh, yeh. Very unfair as he didn’t hold the purse strings, that was Henshall. He returned to the club as Associate Director in 1991until he sadly died in 1994. The book is on my bucket list for Christmas. The song is news to me also. But it wouldn't remotely surprise me. The term was routinely and casually used as a term of abuse to imply tight-fistedness. Very, very common in school for example. The very essence of institutional racism. So it might well have been used, whether or not Waddington had Jewish roots (I have no idea). But if he did, then that might explain a rather more general dismissive attitude that was certainly around. An attitude that was unjustified and unjustifiable on any and every level. Putting it on my bucket list too. |
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Post by durbanscircus on Jun 10, 2019 16:20:44 GMT
Isell remember the very un-PC chant, after we had to sell the club gold, to the Grocer Jack song tune........ Waddington, Waddington, Is it true What they all say, You are a Jew, Oh yeh, yeh. Very unfair as he didn’t hold the purse strings, that was Henshall. He returned to the club as Associate Director in 1991until he sadly died in 1994. The book is on my bucket list for Christmas. The song is news to me also. But it wouldn't remotely surprise me. The term was routinely and casually used as a term of abuse to imply tight-fistedness. Very, very common in school for example. The very essence of institutional racism. So it might well have been used, whether or not Waddington had Jewish roots (I have no idea). But if he did, then that might explain a rather more general dismissive attitude that was certainly around. An attitude that was unjustified and unjustifiable on any and every level. Putting it on my bucket list too. Thanks- you have really cast my mind back there...I had wiped from my memory the play ground banter if someone wouldn't share sweets- they would be called "stingy Jew" or "tight Jew Bag" . The shock I suppose is that it was also adults singing it down at the game...the 1970s was pretty dismal on many fronts |
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Post by Trouserdog on Jun 10, 2019 17:07:43 GMT
Yes, I've read it- it's great!
The Waddo years were before my time so I learnt a fair bit about the teams he built and the sort of manager he was. It's very well-researched so I'd imagine that even if you were around at the time, there'll be plenty of information that'll be new to you.
The book's about what Waddo achieved at Stoke more than a complete biography, so there's no much about his early life, playing career or what he did after leaving Stoke, but let's face it, anyone who's buying this book is doing so to read about his years here, not what he got up to at school.
Would definitely recommend.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jun 11, 2019 6:03:08 GMT
Yes, I've read it- it's great! The Waddo years were before my time so I learnt a fair bit about the teams he built and the sort of manager he was. It's very well-researched so I'd imagine that even if you were around at the time, there'll be plenty of information that'll be new to you. The book's about what Waddo achieved at Stoke more than a complete biography, so there's no much about his early life, playing career or what he did after leaving Stoke, but let's face it, anyone who's buying this book is doing so to read about his years here, not what he got up to at school. Would definitely recommend. Cheers TD. Ordered it on your recommendation.  |
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Post by lifelong on Jun 11, 2019 11:33:53 GMT
The stories about malcom macdonald, peter osgood and others gives me a nostalgic smile because every week Stoke were trying to sign somebody but the truth was they didn't have a pot to piss in. It was a charade but good PR.
As for Tony, he is Stokes best manager post war without a doubt and I loved watching his team play. It was totally out of order when the fans got on at him, the board sold the players around him such as Greenhoff to Utd and Hudson to Arsenal etc.
The ground had blown down and they had no money.
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Post by lordb on Jun 11, 2019 11:36:23 GMT
The stories about malcom macdonald, peter osgood and others gives me a nostalgic smile because every week Stoke were trying to sign somebody but the truth was they didn't have a pot to piss in. It was a charade but good PR. As for Tony, he is Stokes best manager post war without a doubt and I loved watching his team play. It was totally out of order when the fans got on at him, the board sold the players around him such as Greenhoff to Utd and Hudson to Arsenal etc. The ground had blown down and they had no money. & yet we splashed out on several players, Shilton & Hudson the prime examples. the incorrectly insured Butler St. exacerbated financial issues though for sure, had it not occured we would have had a scale down no doubt but should have been able to maintain 1st Div status with promising youngsters coming through by the end of the decade |
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Post by kelw on Jun 11, 2019 11:48:46 GMT
The stories about malcom macdonald, peter osgood and others gives me a nostalgic smile because every week Stoke were trying to sign somebody but the truth was they didn't have a pot to piss in. It was a charade but good PR. As for Tony, he is Stokes best manager post war without a doubt and I loved watching his team play. It was totally out of order when the fans got on at him, the board sold the players around him such as Greenhoff to Utd and Hudson to Arsenal etc. The ground had blown down and they had no money. We broke a transfer World record and were one of the bigger spenders. Osgood himself said he was on the brink of joining Stoke but then Soton appealed to him more after doing a last min change of mind |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 11, 2019 12:05:39 GMT
There's often the idea the stand blowing off ended our golden era. In reality we recovered well. In 1981 we finished mid table in the first division. Which was our natural position in them days.
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