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Post by harlequin on Jul 2, 2019 11:58:06 GMT
Badou Ndiaye, who ended the loan contract in Galatasaray, does not want to stay at Stoke City. For the Senegalese footballer, Stoke City received an official offer from Everton and Lille. In particular, Everton appeared to want Ndiaye in a serious way. If they want him in a serious way then naturally they should be prepared to pay serious cash. Cue finding out it was a derisive bid. Actually give him to Lille and swap with Kone.
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Post by lordb on Jul 2, 2019 11:58:28 GMT
Rumour in Turkish media...
ignore it
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Post by scfc5 on Jul 2, 2019 12:03:49 GMT
Hopefully Gueye will put in a good word for him to his manager and we can finally recoup some money back. Is there likely to be room for him and Gueye in an Everton side, given that Gueye normally sits as the holder?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 12:08:04 GMT
Hopefully Gueye will put in a good word for him to his manager and we can finally recoup some money back. Is there likely to be room for him and Gueye in an Everton side, given that Gueye normally sits as the holder? The vultures are circling for Gueye, he'll be off at some point in the next 12 months probably to PSG. Schneiderlin will be offloaded as he's massively out of favour and on big wages. I've heard worse rumours.....
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Post by thebet365 on Jul 2, 2019 12:09:55 GMT
Hopefully Gueye will put in a good word for him to his manager and we can finally recoup some money back. Is there likely to be room for him and Gueye in an Everton side, given that Gueye normally sits as the holder? They played together for Senegal last night. Would probably take Schneiderlin spot
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 12:36:04 GMT
I hope he'd reconsider the championship, a quality player and he's literally perfect for the diamond.
If he isn't 100% into it though I doubt Nathan would touch him with a shit covered stick, which while frustrating, I massively respect.
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Post by huuuuuth on Jul 2, 2019 12:39:40 GMT
Very good player, but that "performance" away at Leeds last season told us how much he wanted to be on the pitch for us. He was fucking disgraceful
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 12:42:39 GMT
Very good player, but that "performance" away at Leeds last season told us how much he wanted to be on the pitch for us. He was fucking disgraceful It was a mess from top to bottom, I'm not convinced he defined the mess and to be honest he's never a holding mid, he's box to box.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 12:45:58 GMT
If this news is true it's seriously good news. We should get a decent fee out of Everton. Even Big To can probably pull this one off.
Sadly, it's probably a load of horse shit.
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Post by Clem Fandango on Jul 2, 2019 13:35:57 GMT
If this news is true it's seriously good news. We should get a decent fee out of Everton. Even Big To can probably pull this one off. Sadly, it's probably a load of horse shit. I’m sure we’re busy lining up a swap deal with that centre half (Pennington?).
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Post by Northy on Jul 2, 2019 14:30:19 GMT
£10 million should do it
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Post by werrington on Jul 2, 2019 14:39:15 GMT
We paid ( I think ) £14m and there’s plenty left on his contract and he’s a young international footballer He’s left us to play in the champions league and a premiership club is now allegedly after him Given all that £20m should do it
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Post by Northy on Jul 2, 2019 15:05:36 GMT
We paid ( I think ) £14m and there’s plenty left on his contract and he’s a young international footballer He’s left us to play in the champions league and a premiership club is now allegedly after him Given all that £20m should do it He's 29 in October, he went from €7.5m euros to £14m in 5 months because we were desperate. Clubs won't get a return on him off a 4 year contract
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Post by kevkj on Jul 2, 2019 16:36:11 GMT
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jul 2, 2019 16:45:40 GMT
I'd rather keep him. Make him run up and down the canal until he decides he wants to play.
I'd rather that than sign another league 1 player
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 16:46:56 GMT
I'd rather keep him. Make him run up and down the canal until he decides he wants to play. I'd rather that than sign another league 1 player The difference is League 1 players want to come and play for the club.
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Post by Absolution on Jul 2, 2019 16:47:22 GMT
So twice as unreliable then. 😎
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jul 2, 2019 16:53:27 GMT
I'd rather keep him. Make him run up and down the canal until he decides he wants to play. I'd rather that than sign another league 1 player The difference is League 1 players want to come and play for the club. I would have preferred we look further afield for players who want to play for us. Proven quality is what normally gets you out of this league. We would get better value abroad than paying several million for a league 1 player. I am fully behind the manager, and I hope these signings work out. But I wasn't expecting stoke to give up this summer. Cousins for instance, what if he struggles like he has the last 3 years? The midfield would still be a huge issue. We are hoping. Hoping Jones can turn these players around, and in some instances elevate the performances of others. Last season showed that's not possible with this bunch
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 17:01:00 GMT
The difference is League 1 players want to come and play for the club. I would have preferred we look further afield for players who want to play for us. Proven quality is what normally gets you out of this league. We would get better value abroad than paying several million for a league 1 player. I am fully behind the manager, and I hope these signings work out. But I wasn't expecting stoke to give up this summer. Cousins for instance, what if he struggles like he has the last 3 years? The midfield would still be a huge issue. We are hoping. Hoping Jones can turn these players around, and in some instances elevate the performances of others. Last season showed that's not possible with this bunch Are we hoping or starting the rebuild? There is a lot of cynicism and negativity around at the moment and I can't understand why. It was always going to be like this after we let Rowett run riot in the sweet shop after relegation. There was always going to be cloth cutting and a rebuild. It isn't giving up, it's life in the Championship. Add onto that a new manager who is clearly recruiting players with specific attributes to play his system. We signed proven quality for this league last year and paid a pretty sum for it. It's more than that, it's about buying players that fit together both technically and in terms of attitude. The fact a number of them have come from League One suggests the manager has an in depth knowledge of them and is happy to bring them to the club. He hasn't done it because he thinks it will fail that will cost him his job. He isn't a wet behind the ears rookie who has achieved nothing. He knows what makes his system tick and has pretty much got his last club two promotions. Cousins is the number one stand out player for this philosophy. Will he work out? I don't know, does the fact that he's free mean he will fail given last year many failed that cost huge sums of money? Personally I don't give a monkeys who the players are, where they come from and how much they cost. I'm interested in what the manager who has recruited them does with them. We won't find that out until May next year.
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Post by Alvechurch Assassin on Jul 2, 2019 17:28:22 GMT
"keep him. Make him run up and down the canal" forever.
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Post by thehoof on Jul 2, 2019 17:43:30 GMT
I think we are totally overrating his ability. In his 16 games he didn’t put together one dominating display and was often only noticeable for 45 minutes at most. His best game was at Swansea, followed by his no show at Leeds. If he won’t play and we can’t ship him out for a decent sum, then make him come to sunny Stoke and let him rot- under FFP we wouldn’t want to write off the several million that he is valued at in the books, which is what will happen if we let him go for next to nowt- might as well run his value down to zero and if he doesn’t turn up for training or make himself available, I’m sure our superstar contractual whizz kids will have him over a barrel. Over to you Scholes.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jul 2, 2019 18:51:31 GMT
I would have preferred we look further afield for players who want to play for us. Proven quality is what normally gets you out of this league. We would get better value abroad than paying several million for a league 1 player. I am fully behind the manager, and I hope these signings work out. But I wasn't expecting stoke to give up this summer. Cousins for instance, what if he struggles like he has the last 3 years? The midfield would still be a huge issue. We are hoping. Hoping Jones can turn these players around, and in some instances elevate the performances of others. Last season showed that's not possible with this bunch Are we hoping or starting the rebuild? There is a lot of cynicism and negativity around at the moment and I can't understand why. It was always going to be like this after we let Rowett run riot in the sweet shop after relegation. There was always going to be cloth cutting and a rebuild. It isn't giving up, it's life in the Championship. Add onto that a new manager who is clearly recruiting players with specific attributes to play his system. We signed proven quality for this league last year and paid a pretty sum for it. It's more than that, it's about buying players that fit together both technically and in terms of attitude. The fact a number of them have come from League One suggests the manager has an in depth knowledge of them and is happy to bring them to the club. He hasn't done it because he thinks it will fail that will cost him his job. He isn't a wet behind the ears rookie who has achieved nothing. He knows what makes his system tick and has pretty much got his last club two promotions. Cousins is the number one stand out player for this philosophy. Will he work out? I don't know, does the fact that he's free mean he will fail given last year many failed that cost huge sums of money? Personally I don't give a monkeys who the players are, where they come from and how much they cost. I'm interested in what the manager who has recruited them does with them. We won't find that out until May next year. Fair play, I doth my cap to thee.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 18:54:39 GMT
Are we hoping or starting the rebuild? There is a lot of cynicism and negativity around at the moment and I can't understand why. It was always going to be like this after we let Rowett run riot in the sweet shop after relegation. There was always going to be cloth cutting and a rebuild. It isn't giving up, it's life in the Championship. Add onto that a new manager who is clearly recruiting players with specific attributes to play his system. We signed proven quality for this league last year and paid a pretty sum for it. It's more than that, it's about buying players that fit together both technically and in terms of attitude. The fact a number of them have come from League One suggests the manager has an in depth knowledge of them and is happy to bring them to the club. He hasn't done it because he thinks it will fail that will cost him his job. He isn't a wet behind the ears rookie who has achieved nothing. He knows what makes his system tick and has pretty much got his last club two promotions. Cousins is the number one stand out player for this philosophy. Will he work out? I don't know, does the fact that he's free mean he will fail given last year many failed that cost huge sums of money? Personally I don't give a monkeys who the players are, where they come from and how much they cost. I'm interested in what the manager who has recruited them does with them. We won't find that out until May next year. Fair play, I doth my cap to thee. Thank you sir!
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Post by pottersrule on Jul 2, 2019 19:06:39 GMT
The difference is League 1 players want to come and play for the club. I would have preferred we look further afield for players who want to play for us. Proven quality is what normally gets you out of this league. We would get better value abroad than paying several million for a league 1 player. I am fully behind the manager, and I hope these signings work out. But I wasn't expecting stoke to give up this summer. Cousins for instance, what if he struggles like he has the last 3 years? The midfield would still be a huge issue. We are hoping. Hoping Jones can turn these players around, and in some instances elevate the performances of others. Last season showed that's not possible with this bunch What like the proven quality of Norwich and Sheff United ?
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 3, 2019 0:05:24 GMT
I'd rather keep him. Make him run up and down the canal until he decides he wants to play. I'd rather that than sign another league 1 player The difference is League 1 players want to come and play for the club. My next door neighbour is 22 stone, he runs rings round 5 year old in the park, what's more he wants to come and play play for Stoke, shall we sign him up?
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 3, 2019 1:13:15 GMT
I hope we never see this guy in Stoke again!
Legend in his own lunchbox
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 3, 2019 1:16:41 GMT
We paid ( I think ) £14m and there’s plenty left on his contract and he’s a young international footballer He’s left us to play in the champions league and a premiership club is now allegedly after him Given all that £20m should do it Not a chance we'll get anywhere near that and I think 10mil is pushing it too, its clear he wants to leave and we're desperate to have him off the wage bill, it all points to a cut price deal for Everton unfortunately.
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Post by werrington on Jul 3, 2019 6:30:15 GMT
We paid ( I think ) £14m and there’s plenty left on his contract and he’s a young international footballer He’s left us to play in the champions league and a premiership club is now allegedly after him Given all that £20m should do it Not a chance we'll get anywhere near that and I think 10mil is pushing it too, its clear he wants to leave and we're desperate to have him off the wage bill, it all points to a cut price deal for Everton unfortunately. What is it about Stoke fans ( not you personally) who consistently want to virtually give away all our players who are of value What with this we’ve also got folk willing to sell Butland for £12m
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 3, 2019 6:46:18 GMT
Not a chance we'll get anywhere near that and I think 10mil is pushing it too, its clear he wants to leave and we're desperate to have him off the wage bill, it all points to a cut price deal for Everton unfortunately. What is it about Stoke fans ( not you personally) who consistently want to virtually give away all our players who are of value What with this we’ve also got folk willing to sell Butland for £12m I think it’s the grim reality of the (lack of) ability of those who will be conducting the negotiations, wez. If Stoke had Harry Maguire he’d be wearing a red Jersey now with Tony Scholes proclaiming it is a sign of how far we’ve come getting 20m for the lad!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 3, 2019 6:48:21 GMT
I would have preferred we look further afield for players who want to play for us. Proven quality is what normally gets you out of this league. We would get better value abroad than paying several million for a league 1 player. I am fully behind the manager, and I hope these signings work out. But I wasn't expecting stoke to give up this summer. Cousins for instance, what if he struggles like he has the last 3 years? The midfield would still be a huge issue. We are hoping. Hoping Jones can turn these players around, and in some instances elevate the performances of others. Last season showed that's not possible with this bunch We won't find that out until May next year. I think we’ll know a far bit before May, mate!
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