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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 7:18:49 GMT
Got a sneaky suspicion we might see him tonight.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 21, 2019 7:24:01 GMT
Got a sneaky suspicion we might see him tonight. I’d be inclined to keep him in mothballs until after 2nd September. If he’s still here then, he really is at the crossroads then. Either he becomes an ex-footballer, to all intents and purposes, like Wimmer, or he has to show what he’s about to get his move.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 21, 2019 7:40:50 GMT
That assumes a straight line depreciation. However, I suspect his value is lot less than that because he hasn’t accomplished much over the last 15 months and isn’t playing at all right now. Stoke probably want 10 million but would probably settle for a lot less just to get him off the books. Agree completely that his transfer value is much less than his asset value. But his "on the accounts asset value" will be amortised pro rata with his contract run down so that at the end of his contract he will be a zero asset. FFP rules ensures this. As you say, Stoke would accept a much lower transfer fee to get him off the wages bill. Don’t forget we wrote off an extra £30 million of player value on relegation so his book value is probably lower than on a straight line basis
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Post by gingerninja on Aug 21, 2019 7:45:57 GMT
Like I asked before, has he been seen at training, at the ground since ACON?. So far we have only had Jones give sound bites that he is back and available, which could well be to encourage a transfer pre deadline day?.
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Post by neddy on Aug 21, 2019 7:54:56 GMT
The silence is deafening isn’t it? No pictures of him training with the squad? He’s going isn’t he?
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Post by pottersrule on Aug 21, 2019 8:20:47 GMT
Marc Wilson leaving was where it all started to go wrong. I’ve heard it fucking all now. Well he was the best left back in the league you know.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 21, 2019 8:24:54 GMT
From Spinksy's webchat thing yesterday... It'll be interesting to see if he's in the 18 tonight. Have to guess he wouldn't be, and probably will never be again? www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/live-stoke-transfer-news-rumours-3225067Where is Badou ? Is he even in the country? He has had longer off than Etebo Dave Jervis Hi Dave, not actually seen him myself, but we are assured he’s here and training.
From the first day of pre-season, the manager let it be known that he wanted Badou back at the club because he rated him as a player and felt he wasn’t the bad boy some had painted him as when he left after one game last season.
We are all agreed he has something to offer talent wise, it’s just a question of focus and motivation.
Which is where the manager comes in if he’s still here by the start of September.
Badou, not the manager!
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Post by lordb on Aug 21, 2019 9:22:16 GMT
From Spinksy's webchat thing yesterday... It'll be interesting to see if he's in the 18 tonight. Have to guess he wouldn't be, and probably will never be again? www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/live-stoke-transfer-news-rumours-3225067Where is Badou ? Is he even in the country? He has had longer off than Etebo Dave Jervis Hi Dave, not actually seen him myself, but we are assured he’s here and training.
From the first day of pre-season, the manager let it be known that he wanted Badou back at the club because he rated him as a player and felt he wasn’t the bad boy some had painted him as when he left after one game last season.
We are all agreed he has something to offer talent wise, it’s just a question of focus and motivation.
Which is where the manager comes in if he’s still here by the start of September.
Badou, not the manager!Can't see him being in the 18 until the window is shut. After that it can only go one of two ways.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Aug 21, 2019 11:17:51 GMT
Got a sneaky suspicion we might see him tonight. I’d be inclined to keep him in mothballs until after 2nd September. If he’s still here then, he really is at the crossroads then. Either he becomes an ex-footballer, to all intents and purposes, like Wimmer, or he has to show what he’s about to get his move. An ex footballer still earning stealing £2m a year from our club.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 21, 2019 11:19:34 GMT
I’d be inclined to keep him in mothballs until after 2nd September. If he’s still here then, he really is at the crossroads then. Either he becomes an ex-footballer, to all intents and purposes, like Wimmer, or he has to show what he’s about to get his move. An ex footballer still earning stealing £2m a year from our club. Yep. Don't see what the alternatives are really.
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Post by adi on Aug 21, 2019 11:31:22 GMT
It’ll be in his best interests to play well to get a move and if he stays that doesn’t change, if he plays shit then drop him for a week or two and repeat. It’s a long season that could feel much longer for him if he wants to fuck about.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Aug 21, 2019 11:48:05 GMT
An ex footballer still earning stealing £2m a year from our club. Yep. Don't see what the alternatives are really. The PFA support for player contracts that could, and have, almost destroyed some clubs is despicable. If a player refuses to play then don’t pay him until a decent offer comes in for him. If it doesn’t then tough shit your registration remains with us without pay or until you decide to honour your contractual obligations of actually working to earn you outrageous wages.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 21, 2019 11:56:37 GMT
Yep. Don't see what the alternatives are really. The PFA support for player contracts that could, and have, almost destroyed some clubs is despicable. If a player refuses to play then don’t pay him until a decent offer comes in for him. If it doesn’t then tough shit your registration remains with us without pay or until you decide to honour your contractual obligations of actually working to earn you outrageous wages. Has he refused to play though?
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Post by huuuuuth on Aug 21, 2019 12:16:32 GMT
The PFA support for player contracts that could, and have, almost destroyed some clubs is despicable. If a player refuses to play then don’t pay him until a decent offer comes in for him. If it doesn’t then tough shit your registration remains with us without pay or until you decide to honour your contractual obligations of actually working to earn you outrageous wages. Has he refused to play though? Looked that way when he was on the pitch v Leeds last season
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 21, 2019 12:32:53 GMT
Has he refused to play though? Looked that way when he was on the pitch v Leeds last season That’s the thing isn’t it. Metaphorically he downed tools by doing as little as possible, but that’s harder to police than outright refusing.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 5, 2020 10:52:27 GMT
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Post by iglugluk on Aug 5, 2020 11:27:20 GMT
How to make extra money for doing nothing by an 'unscrupulous football agent' ( fill in name of preference here ) Well it starts with 1. The 'player' under representation being bought from a club in the Country in which they like to live, by a club based somewhere they dont really want to live. Thus he will receive a nice percentage on the sale plus a huge pay increase. 2. The new club should preferably be nailed on for relegation and have an idiot in charge of recruiting who likes to buy players at overinflated prices and put them on ridiculously long contracts. 3. Then when the 'donor club' get relegated ( as per the plan ) the 'player' must sulk until they're loaned back to a club in the Country where they really want to live ( refer to point 1 above). 4 Now .. hey presto! The 'player' is on a hugely increased pay packet ( mainly paid by the parent or 'donor' club ) and is still living in the Country of his choice. 5. Repeat for as many years as possible/can be gotten away with. Bingo!!
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 6, 2020 17:26:56 GMT
Trabzonspor seem to have officially confirmed he's left and isn't going back
Thanks | We would like to thank Badou Ndiaye, Filip Novak and Manoel Messias for their contribution to our club and wish them success in their football lives. Details 👉
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Aug 6, 2020 17:51:18 GMT
If only we could get rid permanently. Time to look for another club to loan him.
If nothing else our recent years have told us not to entertain players who have no desire to play for Stoke, no matter how good they are.
I hope he doesn’t find his way back to the stoke set up. Banish him MON
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Post by neddy on Aug 6, 2020 17:52:48 GMT
Could he be the disciplined holding midfielder we seek? I’m not sure that’s his game? And he always seems a walking yellow card?
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Post by xchpotter on Aug 6, 2020 17:56:00 GMT
I fear it is merely adieu rather than goodbye. Some other tight fisted shark of a team from Turkey will rock up and take him for another year for peanuts.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 17:58:34 GMT
How to make extra money for doing nothing by an 'unscrupulous football agent' ( fill in name of preference here ) Well it starts with 1. The 'player' under representation being bought from a club in the Country in which they like to live, by a club based somewhere they dont really want to live. Thus he will receive a nice percentage on the sale plus a huge pay increase. 2. The new club should preferably be nailed on for relegation and have an idiot in charge of recruiting who likes to buy players at overinflated prices and put them on ridiculously long contracts. 3. Then when the 'donor club' get relegated ( as per the plan ) the 'player' must sulk until they're loaned back to a club in the Country where they really want to live ( refer to point 1 above). 4 Now .. hey presto! The 'player' is on a hugely increased pay packet ( mainly paid by the parent or 'donor' club ) and is still living in the Country of his choice. 5. Repeat for as many years as possible/can be gotten away with. Bingo!! No wonder you never win anything with your strategic sense...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 18:05:09 GMT
Could he be the disciplined holding midfielder we seek? I’m not sure that’s his game? And he always seems a walking yellow card? No, yes, no, maybe. We played him as a 6 under Jones and he didn't do too badly considering we were pretty bad at the time, but by doing so we weren't taking advantage of his strengths which is as a goalscoring box-to-box midfielder. Very much a combattive player, but not "a dirty" player. We have never really seen what he could do for us , and we probably never will.
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Post by nottsover60 on Aug 6, 2020 18:13:02 GMT
I didn't see him at Leeds and accept that he probably did not put in a professional display. However I thought last season despite not getting the move he wanted in August he was probably the best player under Jones, and certainly seemed to have a rapport with him. I think sometimes he is given more stick than he deserves on here and I can accept that playing in the Championship is not what he wants to be doing at his age.
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Post by Fred Merger on Aug 6, 2020 18:22:56 GMT
I didn't see him at Leeds and accept that he probably did not put in a professional display. However I thought last season despite not getting the move he wanted in August he was probably the best player under Jones, and certainly seemed to have a rapport with him. I think sometimes he is given more stick than he deserves on here and I can accept that playing in the Championship is not what he wants to be doing at his age. Well if that's the case he needs to pull his finger out of his arse before his career is over for good!
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Post by neddy on Aug 6, 2020 18:23:40 GMT
I didn't see him at Leeds and accept that he probably did not put in a professional display. However I thought last season despite not getting the move he wanted in August he was probably the best player under Jones, and certainly seemed to have a rapport with him. I think sometimes he is given more stick than he deserves on here and I can accept that playing in the Championship is not what he wants to be doing at his age. You would hope given the current crisis he would be happy where a club are paying his wages?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 18:29:00 GMT
I didn't see him at Leeds and accept that he probably did not put in a professional display. However I thought last season despite not getting the move he wanted in August he was probably the best player under Jones, and certainly seemed to have a rapport with him. I think sometimes he is given more stick than he deserves on here and I can accept that playing in the Championship is not what he wants to be doing at his age. I agree. It's as if they see N'diaye and instantly think Imbula, and then take out all the pent up aggression on Badou.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 6, 2020 18:29:02 GMT
Badou Ndiaye on his way to Besiktas Black and white, close to happy end in the transfer of star player
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 18:30:05 GMT
I didn't see him at Leeds and accept that he probably did not put in a professional display. However I thought last season despite not getting the move he wanted in August he was probably the best player under Jones, and certainly seemed to have a rapport with him. I think sometimes he is given more stick than he deserves on here and I can accept that playing in the Championship is not what he wants to be doing at his age. You would hope given the current crisis he would be happy where a club are paying his wages? We'll have to see? Did he appear at training?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 6, 2020 18:37:40 GMT
Is he only allowed to play in Turkey? It's a bit odd.
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