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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 20:48:28 GMT
It gets worse:
“I’ve had a conversation with him and he’s a real good character, a lovely guy“
WTF?!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 15, 2019 20:55:56 GMT
It gets worse: “I’ve had a conversation with him and he’s a real good character, a lovely guy“ WTF?! I keep saying this but if only he watched the tapes or we got a handover document from the previous bloke. Why do these highly paid professionals we hire keep making the same mistakes?
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Post by northernstokie on Jul 15, 2019 20:58:52 GMT
Has he actually said he dont want to play for us? I can only remember his agent doing all the talking and trying to get him a move.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 20:59:58 GMT
It gets worse: “I’ve had a conversation with him and he’s a real good character, a lovely guy“ WTF?! I keep saying this but if only he watched the tapes or we got a handover document from the previous bloke. Why do these highly paid professionals we hire keep making the same mistakes? Because a much bigger problem than the egos of our players has been the egos of our managers. But no-one looks at that or cares or thinks it’s an issue. In the words of Shakespeare: a fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool. Never has a truer word been said but we are blown away by talk and arrogance and no-one sees that’s what cost us. Hughes, Rowett, Jones - arrogance to the point of madness. Hundreds of millions of pounds wasted and a huge stint in the Championship (at best) if this carries on. You don’t hear Bielsa talk like Jones do you...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 21:09:24 GMT
I keep saying this but if only he watched the tapes or we got a handover document from the previous bloke. Why do these highly paid professionals we hire keep making the same mistakes? Because a much bigger problem than the egos of our players has been the egos of our managers. But no-one looks at that or cares or thinks it’s an issue. In the words of Shakespeare: a fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool. Never has a truer word been said but we are blown away by talk and arrogance and no-one sees that’s what cost us. Hughes, Rowett, Jones - arrogance to the point of madness. Hundreds of millions of pounds wasted and a huge stint in the Championship (at best) if this carries on. You don’t hear Bielsa talk like Jones do you... You do hear Pep, Klopp, Mourinho, etc all talk like that though...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 21:11:46 GMT
Because a much bigger problem than the egos of our players has been the egos of our managers. But no-one looks at that or cares or thinks it’s an issue. In the words of Shakespeare: a fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool. Never has a truer word been said but we are blown away by talk and arrogance and no-one sees that’s what cost us. Hughes, Rowett, Jones - arrogance to the point of madness. Hundreds of millions of pounds wasted and a huge stint in the Championship (at best) if this carries on. You don’t hear Bielsa talk like Jones do you... You do hear Pep, Klopp, Mourinho, etc all talk like that though... You don’t hear Pep and Klopp like that at all. They have their moments but they are pretty humble especially considering where they are. You do however hear Mourinho talk like that and alarm bells should therefore ring.
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 15, 2019 21:12:34 GMT
It's a bit like a Twilight Zone episode, this one. I didn't even think he was that good, just alright. I can't work out why we're so keen to get him back at the club, unless it's just a case of putting on a show for any potential buyers who are playing hardball.
I can't say I'd be particularly upset if we were playing games and threatening to keep him at the club if Galatasary or whoever aren't prepared to pay a fair fee.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 21:15:22 GMT
We're just making ourselves look weaker and weaker with every one of these sagas.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jul 15, 2019 21:19:45 GMT
Could it be that N'Daiye didn't like the toxic environment and the brave new world may suit?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 15, 2019 21:26:00 GMT
Could it be that N'Daiye didn't like the toxic environment and the brave new world may suit? When he was over here this season just gone in June, he was staying with or at least socialising with Bauer......
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 15, 2019 21:29:27 GMT
It's a bit like a Twilight Zone episode, this one. I didn't even think he was that good, just alright. I can't work out why we're so keen to get him back at the club, unless it's just a case of putting on a show for any potential buyers who are playing hardball. I can't say I'd be particularly upset if we were playing games and threatening to keep him at the club if Galatasary or whoever aren't prepared to pay a fair fee. He was our second best player during the period he played for us. Like the best, Shaq, he wanted to get away from a bunch of failures.
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Post by Gob Bluth on Jul 15, 2019 21:41:18 GMT
"Badou likes challenges. He has a right to leave Stoke City to play on a bigger platform like the Champions League. It's not cool for me to say specific things about his transfer at this stage but I can say things will become much more clear after the World Cup.
"I can confirm that he will leave Stoke City. There has been contract from Spain. Turkey is an option for us as well. He could go to Besiktas or Fenerbahce or any other club. It's all down to negotiations with Stoke City."
From his agent who's as much a shithouse as Badou, sells Badou as a top player but is unable to find a club take him on a cut price deal.
Jones should have been made aware of this nonsense last year because it will play out again this year.
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Post by wearepremierleague on Jul 15, 2019 21:45:04 GMT
He’s not even that good. Good battler, but not as good as Allen. And bang average on the ball. He can fuck off
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jul 15, 2019 21:49:40 GMT
Could it be that N'Daiye didn't like the toxic environment and the brave new world may suit? When he was over here this season just gone in June, he was staying with or at least socialising with Bauer...... Do you think there was a problem between home grown players and foreign signings? Is there a problem that comes from the top regarding signing foreign players? Everyone thought Bauer was a great guy, staying with a Russian family during his time there, open to fans here, cycling to work etc, the problems at Stoke run deep!
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Post by Absolution on Jul 15, 2019 21:52:05 GMT
When he was over here this season just gone in June, he was staying with or at least socialising with Bauer...... Do you think there was a problem between home grown players and foreign signings? Is there a problem that comes from the top regarding signing foreign players? Everyone thought Bauer was a great guy, staying with a Russian family during his time there, open to fans here, cycling to work etc, the problems at Stoke run deep! A similar scenario to Choupo-Moting. No talk of him being a trouble maker, then while he's here.....
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 15, 2019 21:53:16 GMT
When he was over here this season just gone in June, he was staying with or at least socialising with Bauer...... Do you think there was a problem between home grown players and foreign signings? Is there a problem that comes from the top regarding signing foreign players? Everyone thought Bauer was a great guy, staying with a Russian family during his time there, open to fans here, cycling to work etc, the problems at Stoke run deep! You’re preaching to the converted. But there’s no doubt Badou has been a twat here. As I’ve said though the club is rotten to the core and that won’t change until fresh blood is at the top and the owners can see that they are the issue and they need to change and with that the CEO needs sodding off. You just have to look at Badou’s agents comments to know Jones is pissing in the wind.
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Post by crapslinger on Jul 15, 2019 22:00:55 GMT
Praising a supposedly bad egg, strange one this. Indeed in Nathan we trust another yes man employed to cover the fcuk up's of Laurel and Hardy and the process, another chancer getting rich by failure ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 22:02:01 GMT
When he was over here this season just gone in June, he was staying with or at least socialising with Bauer...... Do you think there was a problem between home grown players and foreign signings? Is there a problem that comes from the top regarding signing foreign players? Everyone thought Bauer was a great guy, staying with a Russian family during his time there, open to fans here, cycling to work etc, the problems at Stoke run deep! I think we offered him a huge contract to stay, gave him a brief stint as poster boy for the “promotion season” then allowed Rowett to sack him off to the U23s and wasted a year of his career...I don’t think there’s anything wrong with Bauer other than we thoroughly messed him around and pissed him off. He’s not an idiot and I doubt he suffers fools gladly.
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Post by silverdollar on Jul 15, 2019 22:04:06 GMT
We're just making ourselves look weaker and weaker with every one of these sagas. It is only fools such as you that make these stories a saga. Let the Manager get on with his job and stop analysing every Single little bit of news. NDiaye was signed when we were trying to escape relegation. The dressing room was toxic and lacking any confidence. NDiaye is a good player but he has made his mind up that he doesn't want to remain at the club and that is after Jones has tried to influence him. I am sure Jones is now moving on!
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Post by crapslinger on Jul 15, 2019 22:06:20 GMT
When he was over here this season just gone in June, he was staying with or at least socialising with Bauer...... Do you think there was a problem between home grown players and foreign signings? Is there a problem that comes from the top regarding signing foreign players? Everyone thought Bauer was a great guy, staying with a Russian family during his time there, open to fans here, cycling to work etc, the problems at Stoke run deep! Rotten from top to bottom ! so sad yet so avoidable piss poor leadership/management, so much money pissed up the wall yet the "manager's" carry the can ultimately some willingly by the look of it
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Post by Gob Bluth on Jul 15, 2019 22:08:10 GMT
I think we offered him a huge contract to stay, gave him a brief stint as poster boy for the “promotion season” then allowed Rowett to sack him off to the U23s and wasted a year of his career...I don’t think there’s anything wrong with Bauer other than we thoroughly messed him around and pissed him off. He’s not an idiot and I doubt he suffers fools gladly. My only reservation on Bauer is whether he can be coached. We know Lamber and Rowett struggled with his positioning, I would like to have the new lot take him on. In this instance I think his issues might be slightly different to the others.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 22:10:48 GMT
We're just making ourselves look weaker and weaker with every one of these sagas. It is only fools such as you that make these stories a saga. Let the Manager get on with his job and stop analysing every Single little bit of news. NDiaye was signed when we were trying to escape relegation. The dressing room was toxic and lacking any confidence. NDiaye is a good player but he has made his mind up that he doesn't want to remain at the club and that is after Jones has tried to influence him. I am sure Jones is now moving on! Yeah well, I'm not really "stopping" him doing anything, more that it's just shitbollocks rhetoric as empty as you like and I don't buy into it, nor would any club with half a fucking braincell - so what's the point of it? It really does just make us look weak.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 22:14:02 GMT
I think we offered him a huge contract to stay, gave him a brief stint as poster boy for the “promotion season” then allowed Rowett to sack him off to the U23s and wasted a year of his career...I don’t think there’s anything wrong with Bauer other than we thoroughly messed him around and pissed him off. He’s not an idiot and I doubt he suffers fools gladly. My only reservation on Bauer is whether he can be coached. We know Lamber and Rowett struggled with his positioning, I would like to have the new lot take him on. In this instance I think his issues might be slightly different to the others. I don’t think he’s a bad egg though. And find it odd that now everyone’s saying he’s got a bad attitude but before he was meant to be a lovely guy. Whether you think he should have played or not giving him that contract without a manger in place was a massive fuck up. I feel quite sorry for him and yes, before anyone says anything, I know he’s on thousands of pounds a week but I still think it was unfortunate what happened and it’s not ok to mess someone around like that.
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Post by silverdollar on Jul 15, 2019 22:18:27 GMT
It is only fools such as you that make these stories a saga. Let the Manager get on with his job and stop analysing every Single little bit of news. NDiaye was signed when we were trying to escape relegation. The dressing room was toxic and lacking any confidence. NDiaye is a good player but he has made his mind up that he doesn't want to remain at the club and that is after Jones has tried to influence him. I am sure Jones is now moving on! Yeah well, I'm not really "stopping" him doing anything, more that it's just shitbollocks rhetoric as empty as you like and I don't buy into it, nor would any club with half a fucking braincell - so what's the point of it? It really does just make us look weak. For three years we have been falling like a stone and suffered relegation and endured continued problems last year. I would call that weak! We have looked weak and Jones is trying to change many things to stop the decline. Get real!
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Post by doitforfrank on Jul 15, 2019 22:24:42 GMT
NJ is talking him up to the media. He’s never going to come out and say he’s a shithouse is he? He’s in the final of a major international competition and NJ is saying we want him back and how great he is, hoping to start a bidding war, so we at least get something back. He certainly can’t do that with Wimmer can he?
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 15, 2019 22:30:24 GMT
I like Jones a lot but I wish he be more consistent with his media utterances, he’s a bit all over the place lately.
NJ: (paraphrasing) I want players that want to play and be proud to play for the Club and are willing to give everything for the team
BN: I’m better than the rest of you wankers and there’s no way I’m playing for Stoke in Championship
NJ: Badous a great guy.
😳
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 22:35:52 GMT
NJ is talking him up to the media. He’s never going to come out and say he’s a shithouse is he? He’s in the final of a major international competition and NJ is saying we want him back and how great he is, hoping to start a bidding war, so we at least get something back. He certainly can’t do that with Wimmer can he? Yes you’re right. All the big wigs in world football are going to sit down tomorrow morning for their breakfast with a copy of the Sentinel and think I must buy this fantastic player - start the bidding war!
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Post by baystokie on Jul 15, 2019 22:36:54 GMT
I keep saying this but if only he watched the tapes or we got a handover document from the previous bloke. Why do these highly paid professionals we hire keep making the same mistakes? Because a much bigger problem than the egos of our players has been the egos of our managers. But no-one looks at that or cares or thinks it’s an issue. In the words of Shakespeare: a fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool. Never has a truer word been said but we are blown away by talk and arrogance and no-one sees that’s what cost us. Hughes, Rowett, Jones - arrogance to the point of madness. Hundreds of millions of pounds wasted and a huge stint in the Championship (at best) if this carries on. You don’t hear Bielsa talk like Jones do you... The Sentinel rarely quote Bielsa but maybe you should read the papers in Yorkshire?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 22:39:47 GMT
Because a much bigger problem than the egos of our players has been the egos of our managers. But no-one looks at that or cares or thinks it’s an issue. In the words of Shakespeare: a fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool. Never has a truer word been said but we are blown away by talk and arrogance and no-one sees that’s what cost us. Hughes, Rowett, Jones - arrogance to the point of madness. Hundreds of millions of pounds wasted and a huge stint in the Championship (at best) if this carries on. You don’t hear Bielsa talk like Jones do you... The Sentinel rarely quote Bielsa but maybe you should read the papers in Yorkshire? He literally said in front of the world he thinks he’s an idiot. All his interviews are focussed on facts about what is happening and he doesn’t come out with statements like “ if you put my work against the top coaches in the world there isn’t much difference”...
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Post by baystokie on Jul 15, 2019 22:40:11 GMT
I like Jones a lot but I wish he be more consistent with his media utterances, he’s a bit all over the place lately. NJ: (paraphrasing) I want players that want to play and be proud to play for the Club and are willing to give everything for the team BN: I’m better than the rest of you wankers and there’s no way I’m playing for Stoke in Championship NJ: Badous a great guy. 😳 Only because the jokers on here read AND believe sxome of the crap that's written ib the papers and other media. Nobody on here has actually spoken to Jones or the player and checked what percentage of media quotes are real? 'Ignore the facts, print the story'
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