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Post by thevoid on Sept 12, 2019 10:21:55 GMT
I'll be honest, I'm properly in the mood to give some knobhead a bollocking. Any of you lot fancy a good old fashioned Oatcake tear up? All future replies will be directed to vokesmarking, what with you being one and the same mate š
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Post by vokeswagen on Sept 13, 2019 15:09:20 GMT
You're doing all those things yes mate How long were you lurking on this board before you decided to join? You seem to know your way around. You seem to target the same posters, it would be laughable if there wasn't an underlying sadness to it all It's an easy board to get but it must be said a fairly unwelcoming one for outsiders. If you don't conform to the views of people like you, you just get accused of being the same poster as fuck knows who else. Which is fine by me but don't assume I can't see it for what it is: a strawman to deflect from a lack of basic knowledge of the issues.
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Post by Northy on Sept 13, 2019 15:54:21 GMT
How long were you lurking on this board before you decided to join? You seem to know your way around. You seem to target the same posters, it would be laughable if there wasn't an underlying sadness to it all It's an easy board to get but it must be said a fairly unwelcoming one for outsiders. If you don't conform to the views of people like you, you just get accused of being the same poster as fuck knows who else. Which is fine by me but don't assume I can't see it for what it is: a strawman to deflect from a lack of basic knowledge of the issues. Outsiders are welcome, I mean you are followed by eebygum, eebygum is followed by Vokeswagen and stantheman, stantheman followed by eebygum, thevoid is following deanossisterspant, manmarking and long forgotten spiler, and is also followed by those and Waggy and ADMIN, manmarking is following thevoid and mumf (where's he these days), hearttohartshill and the others is following manmarking, hearttohartshill is following manmarking and boiler (where's he gone to) so It's all one big happy family on here
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Post by felonious on Sept 13, 2019 16:31:10 GMT
How long were you lurking on this board before you decided to join? You seem to know your way around. You seem to target the same posters, it would be laughable if there wasn't an underlying sadness to it all It's an easy board to get but it must be said a fairly unwelcoming one for outsiders. If you don't conform to the views of people like you, you just get accused of being the same poster as fuck knows who else. Which is fine by me but don't assume I can't see it for what it is: a strawman to deflect from a lack of basic knowledge of the issues. Unfortunately because of one fuckwit it's difficult to decide who's legit and who's got multiple personality disorder. How long have you been lurking before you started posting?
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Post by felonious on Sept 13, 2019 16:32:19 GMT
It's an easy board to get but it must be said a fairly unwelcoming one for outsiders. If you don't conform to the views of people like you, you just get accused of being the same poster as fuck knows who else. Which is fine by me but don't assume I can't see it for what it is: a strawman to deflect from a lack of basic knowledge of the issues. Outsiders are welcome, I mean you are followed by eebygum, eebygum is followed by Vokeswagen and stantheman, stantheman followed by eebygum, thevoid is following deanossisterspant, manmarking and long forgotten spiler, and is also followed by those and Waggy and ADMIN, manmarking is following thevoid and mumf (where's he these days), hearttohartshill and the others is following manmarking, hearttohartshill is following manmarking and boiler (where's he gone to) so It's all one big happy family on here Happy?....don't you mean seriously sad?
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Nov 8, 2019 19:14:17 GMT
The anniversary of the Enniskillen Poppy day bombing. In some ways, for those of us who remember some of the Troubles, it seems beyond understanding that such indescriminate pointless bombing actually happened.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2019 19:43:43 GMT
The anniversary of the Enniskillen Poppy day bombing. In some ways, for those of us who remember some of the Troubles, it seems beyond understanding that such indescriminate pointless bombing actually happened. Quite right it was yet another horrific massacre of innocent people by ruthless cold blooded killers. It was brought home to me quite graphically as I went to Omagh for a friend's wedding on 8th August 1998. As things transpired it turned out to be exactly one week before the Omagh car bomb which killed 29 people and injured over 200 others. As the footage was shown on TV I realised that it had been detonated in exactly the place where I had been standing at the same time the week before. It certainly makes you think of "what if".
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Nov 21, 2019 20:24:57 GMT
Such a waste and pointless murder
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 21, 2019 20:37:40 GMT
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Post by somersetstokie on Nov 21, 2019 20:41:38 GMT
I was in Birmingham City Centre that night 45 years ago and will never forget it. I was in the Nelson Bar in Temple Street, another cellar bar, when the bombs went off and we heard and felt the two explosions. It was complete chaos in Brum that night as it was effectively everybody for themselves and you could have no idea if anywhere was safe to shelter. I have actually started shaking as I typed that, must be because its an anniversary but it still shocks me.
It was the week Peter Shilton signed for Stoke.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Nov 21, 2019 20:45:27 GMT
From your link Partick Parents without children The bombers had to go into those pubs, which means they saw the people whose lives they were about to extinguish. Most of them were very young: Jane Davies was 17, as was Neil Marsh; Maxine Hambleton was 18; Ann Hayes and Pamela Palmer were 19; Maureen Roberts and Paul Davies were 20. The brothers Des and Eugene Reilly, typical English working-class children of Irish emigrants, were 21 and 23. Children without a father A year after the massacre, the widow of Trevor Thrupp, who was 33 when he was blown to bits in the Mulberry Bush, leaving her to raise their three little children, wrote about enforced silence: āAll widows and widowers must feel as I do, that you canāt talk to anyone about things you would normally talk about with your partner. Itās a lonely life.ā
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 21, 2019 20:49:50 GMT
From your link Partick Parents without children The bombers had to go into those pubs, which means they saw the people whose lives they were about to extinguish. Most of them were very young: Jane Davies was 17, as was Neil Marsh; Maxine Hambleton was 18; Ann Hayes and Pamela Palmer were 19; Maureen Roberts and Paul Davies were 20. The brothers Des and Eugene Reilly, typical English working-class children of Irish emigrants, were 21 and 23. Children without a father A year after the massacre, the widow of Trevor Thrupp, who was 33 when he was blown to bits in the Mulberry Bush, leaving her to raise their three little children, wrote about enforced silence: āAll widows and widowers must feel as I do, that you canāt talk to anyone about things you would normally talk about with your partner. Itās a lonely life.ā Indeed. And good to see this in the Irish Times. The IRA was responsible for some heinous crimes. They werenāt a bunch of lovable freedom fighter.
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 22, 2019 0:20:44 GMT
From your link Partick Parents without children The bombers had to go into those pubs, which means they saw the people whose lives they were about to extinguish. Most of them were very young: Jane Davies was 17, as was Neil Marsh; Maxine Hambleton was 18; Ann Hayes and Pamela Palmer were 19; Maureen Roberts and Paul Davies were 20. The brothers Des and Eugene Reilly, typical English working-class children of Irish emigrants, were 21 and 23. Children without a father A year after the massacre, the widow of Trevor Thrupp, who was 33 when he was blown to bits in the Mulberry Bush, leaving her to raise their three little children, wrote about enforced silence: āAll widows and widowers must feel as I do, that you canāt talk to anyone about things you would normally talk about with your partner. Itās a lonely life.ā Indeed. And good to see this in the Irish Times. The IRA was responsible for some heinous crimes. They werenāt a bunch of lovable freedom fighter. Very true the night before my 17th birthday I went out for drinks, came home and made the mistake of putting the tv news on and watching pictures of those two army corporals who had the misfortune to be in the wrong place at the wrong time being dragged from their cars and taken to their deaths.
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Post by felonious on Nov 22, 2019 6:55:24 GMT
From your link Partick Parents without children The bombers had to go into those pubs, which means they saw the people whose lives they were about to extinguish. Most of them were very young: Jane Davies was 17, as was Neil Marsh; Maxine Hambleton was 18; Ann Hayes and Pamela Palmer were 19; Maureen Roberts and Paul Davies were 20. The brothers Des and Eugene Reilly, typical English working-class children of Irish emigrants, were 21 and 23. Children without a father A year after the massacre, the widow of Trevor Thrupp, who was 33 when he was blown to bits in the Mulberry Bush, leaving her to raise their three little children, wrote about enforced silence: āAll widows and widowers must feel as I do, that you canāt talk to anyone about things you would normally talk about with your partner. Itās a lonely life.ā Indeed. And good to see this in the Irish Times. The IRA was responsible for some heinous crimes. They werenāt a bunch of lovable freedom fighter. That's a fairly damning article but sums up the ethos of the IRA. Innocent civilians, politicians, old men at Remembrance days parades, mothers/fathers on their doorsteps/ in front of their children.......there really wasn't any distinction to their barbarity.
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Post by bathstoke on Nov 22, 2019 7:09:31 GMT
From your link Partick Parents without children The bombers had to go into those pubs, which means they saw the people whose lives they were about to extinguish. Most of them were very young: Jane Davies was 17, as was Neil Marsh; Maxine Hambleton was 18; Ann Hayes and Pamela Palmer were 19; Maureen Roberts and Paul Davies were 20. The brothers Des and Eugene Reilly, typical English working-class children of Irish emigrants, were 21 and 23. Children without a father A year after the massacre, the widow of Trevor Thrupp, who was 33 when he was blown to bits in the Mulberry Bush, leaving her to raise their three little children, wrote about enforced silence: āAll widows and widowers must feel as I do, that you canāt talk to anyone about things you would normally talk about with your partner. Itās a lonely life.ā Itās truly terrible that those widows & widowers have to live a life where they canāt discuss their troubles with a partner, because some ideologist decided to play God. Itās been a fantastic story that the city of Belfast has been transformed from what it was. Anyone thatās not been should seriously think about going(much more interesting than Dublin IMO) Lots of work to go yet, letās just hope that people donāt forget how far theyāve come. Donāt look back!
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 22, 2019 7:11:13 GMT
Indeed. And good to see this in the Irish Times. The IRA was responsible for some heinous crimes. They werenāt a bunch of lovable freedom fighter. That's a fairly damning article but sums up the ethos of the IRA. Innocent civilians, politicians, old men at Remembrance days parades, mothers/fathers on their doorsteps/ in front of their children.......there really wasn't any distinction to their barbarity. Thereās a perverse morality at play. We now see British soldiers being taken to task for their actions during the Troubles while others are not held to account. However, at no point did the British Army ever undertake premeditated actions against civilians. The paramilitaries did target civilians. As this article makes very clear. Something that should not be forgotten.
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 22, 2019 7:16:10 GMT
From your link Partick Parents without children The bombers had to go into those pubs, which means they saw the people whose lives they were about to extinguish. Most of them were very young: Jane Davies was 17, as was Neil Marsh; Maxine Hambleton was 18; Ann Hayes and Pamela Palmer were 19; Maureen Roberts and Paul Davies were 20. The brothers Des and Eugene Reilly, typical English working-class children of Irish emigrants, were 21 and 23. Children without a father A year after the massacre, the widow of Trevor Thrupp, who was 33 when he was blown to bits in the Mulberry Bush, leaving her to raise their three little children, wrote about enforced silence: āAll widows and widowers must feel as I do, that you canāt talk to anyone about things you would normally talk about with your partner. Itās a lonely life.ā Itās truly terrible that those widows & widowers have to live that life where they canāt discuss their troubles with a partner, because some ideologist decided to play God. Itās been a fantastic story that the city of Belfast has been transformed from what it was. Anyone thatās not been should seriously think about going(much more interesting than Dublin IMO) Lists of work to go yet, letās just hope that people donāt forget how far theyāve come. Donāt look back! Itās been transformed - but not to the extent we would hope. Meaning, Belfast is now a divided city. And that divide is manifest in the Peace Walls. The two communities are as far apart as ever. No doubt NI has come a long way. But it still has a very long way to go.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Apr 28, 2021 5:24:37 GMT
Looks like Arlene is on her way out.
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Post by felonious on Apr 28, 2021 8:23:42 GMT
Looks like Arlene is on her way out. Shame they can't get rid of all of the DUP and of course Sinn Fein IRA
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Post by felonious on Apr 28, 2021 15:14:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2021 21:16:52 GMT
That's a fairly damning article but sums up the ethos of the IRA. Innocent civilians, politicians, old men at Remembrance days parades, mothers/fathers on their doorsteps/ in front of their children.......there really wasn't any distinction to their barbarity. Thereās a perverse morality at play. We now see British soldiers being taken to task for their actions during the Troubles while others are not held to account. However, at no point did the British Army ever undertake premeditated actions against civilians. The paramilitaries did target civilians. As this article makes very clear. Something that should not be forgotten. Simply isn't true but not interested in going down that route. 2 obvious examples My Grandfather was from Eniskillen. Horrible day that was.
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Post by partickpotter on Apr 29, 2021 1:45:50 GMT
Thereās a perverse morality at play. We now see British soldiers being taken to task for their actions during the Troubles while others are not held to account. However, at no point did the British Army ever undertake premeditated actions against civilians. The paramilitaries did target civilians. As this article makes very clear. Something that should not be forgotten. Simply isn't true but not interested in going down that route. 2 obvious examples My Grandfather was from Eniskillen. Horrible day that was. Well, youāve started off down that route... so please give the two obvious examples. By premeditated I mean a planned operation with the intent of killing civilians.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 15, 2021 7:09:19 GMT
Edwin Poots? Where did they find him? Out of a Dickens novel?
A creationist who believes the world is 6,000 years old...they really are bonkers, the DUP.
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Post by erogenous on May 15, 2021 22:25:47 GMT
Simply isn't true but not interested in going down that route. 2 obvious examples My Grandfather was from Eniskillen. Horrible day that was. Well, youāve started off down that route... so please give the two obvious examples. By premeditated I mean a planned operation with the intent of killing civilians. I'm not getting the obvious examples either. I guess you could argue collusion with protestant paramilitary groups. But I'd say that's a bit murky rather than obvious. I have never been a soldier so don't know how order's get issued. However I'd imagine Operation shoot a load of civilians would take some clearing at a political level! If the 2 obvious events were say bloody sunday and ballymurphy. Im sure many "innocent" civilian had their gun taken by their mates just as Im not naive enough to think the army have never planted a gun. I'm not interested in an argument but I'd love to know the obvious examples of the British army planning and executing an operation deliberately to kill innocent people. Also agree with the perverse morality..its pretty much set out in the good Friday agreement!
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