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Post by gaznandi on May 27, 2019 10:11:38 GMT
These rich Arabs are ruining the game. Taking all the transfer fees up to an even more obscene level. Greed and ego will ruin our game and one day a big club will implode. Same was said about These rich Russian oligarchs and These rich Americans. Abramovic was the root of all evil for a good number of years. I see the La Liga president having a go at Man City, fine, he was oddly quiet when Madrid outspent anyone in world football. Barca aren't exactly cheap either. Same way Rangers fans have a go,quickly forgetting when they could outspend most in Europe. It just goes in cycles, it'll be some other league or nationality of owner in a few years. |
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Post by rawli on May 27, 2019 10:16:27 GMT
They didn't get rich by blowing billions on a football club! You are correct and neither did the Arabs and Russians? Fair point. |
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Post by haway on May 27, 2019 10:52:37 GMT
Well respected journalist in the North East doesn’t think it’s as advanced as it’s making out...
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Post by shangamuzo on May 27, 2019 12:56:05 GMT
Top 6 if this Arab hands 2 or 3 hundred million quid to Benitez to spend on players.
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Post by dreamtheater on May 27, 2019 13:36:58 GMT
These rich Arabs are ruining the game. Taking all the transfer fees up to an even more obscene level. Greed and ego will ruin our game and one day a big club will implode. It was great being in the PL league but the Championship is a far better more competitive exciting league. With proper fans and far more British players. Championship better ??? 🤣Sorry- but thats absolute fucking garbage. For all its sins if, you are not in the premier league- you are fucking nobodies. Plus saying that is, just a wierd and bitter form of coping strategy for fans of a football club that had it all then inexplicably, threw it all away. Something I find incredibly hard to forgive let alone,forget. |
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Post by scfc75 on May 27, 2019 15:53:02 GMT
These rich Arabs are ruining the game. Taking all the transfer fees up to an even more obscene level. Greed and ego will ruin our game and one day a big club will implode. It was great being in the PL league but the Championship is a far better more competitive exciting league. With proper fans and far more British players. Championship better ??? 🤣Sorry- but thats absolute fucking garbage. For all its sins if, you are not in the premier league- you are fucking nobodies. Plus saying that is, just a wierd and bitter form of coping strategy for fans of a football club that had it all then inexplicably, threw it all away. Something I find incredibly hard to forgive let alone,forget. Being a ‘somebody’ in the premier league, but scraping by to avoid being 4th least shit team, isn’t enjoyable. Ask Huddersfield fans what they preferred - their promotion season, where they were regularly winning games (sometimes comfortably), or that time when they won 12 games and scored just 50 times over 2 seasons, with a combined GD of -84. It’s an extreme example but to say the Premier League is more enjoyable, just because it has the big names, is utter shit. It obviously upsets you that we aren’t ‘somebodies’ any more, and it’s a shame you can no longer enjoy football unless we’re trundling along in the bottom half of the Premier League. I genuinely hope you come back some day, but if it’s only because we’re in the top division then it’s a sad shame that you attach such importance to the Premier League. |
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Post by Stokiedokie on May 27, 2019 16:28:19 GMT
These rich Arabs are ruining the game. Taking all the transfer fees up to an even more obscene level. Greed and ego will ruin our game and one day a big club will implode. It was great being in the PL league but the Championship is a far better more competitive exciting league. With proper fans and far more British players. Championship better ??? 🤣Sorry- but thats absolute fucking garbage. For all its sins if, you are not in the premier league- you are fucking nobodies. Plus saying that is, just a wierd and bitter form of coping strategy for fans of a football club that had it all then inexplicably, threw it all away. Something I find incredibly hard to forgive let alone,forget. Let it go. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 27, 2019 17:36:44 GMT
Not really any more fire power than our current owners
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Post by Pugsley on May 27, 2019 17:44:36 GMT
These rich Arabs are ruining the game. Taking all the transfer fees up to an even more obscene level. Greed and ego will ruin our game and one day a big club will implode. It was great being in the PL league but the Championship is a far better more competitive exciting league. With proper fans and far more British players. The Championship is a hell hole of shite teams playing shite football. It was great being in the PL and we should be doing our utmost to get back there. |
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Post by Dr Hesham on May 27, 2019 18:00:04 GMT
You can call it the Arab League instead of Premier League, this is really bad, money will destroy the joy of football.
Even in Egypt a minister from Saudi Arabia bought a club and he is doing his best to destroy the league here.
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Post by Davef on May 27, 2019 18:12:48 GMT
Not really any more fire power than our current owners Coates family net worth - £3.1bn. BIn Zayed Group net worth - £150bn. Yeah, not much difference. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 27, 2019 18:14:08 GMT
Not really any more fire power than our current owners Coates family net worth - £3.1bn. BIn Zayed Group net worth - £150bn. Yeah, not much difference. First 3.1 is wrong by a margin of 50% and he doesn’t own the group |
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Post by Davef on May 27, 2019 18:17:24 GMT
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Post by Squeekster on May 27, 2019 18:21:02 GMT
Is that link now out of date now Dave? |
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Post by Davef on May 27, 2019 18:23:58 GMT
Is that link now out of date now Dave? Possibly, but even so they're nowhere near as wealthy as these prospective new Newcastle owners. |
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Post by Squeekster on May 27, 2019 18:28:44 GMT
Is that link now out of date now Dave? Possibly, but even so they're nowhere near as wealthy as these prospective new Newcastle owners. Yes the last report I saw said 5.2 billion but I thought I heard on the radio it was 6billion something but as you say it's not 150billion or any ware near! Wouldn't mind any of those amounts in my bank account to be honest though! |
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Post by Davef on May 27, 2019 18:31:53 GMT
Possibly, but even so they're nowhere near as wealthy as these prospective new Newcastle owners. Yes the last report I saw said 5.2 billion but I thought I heard on the radio it was 6billion something but as you say it's not 150billion or any ware near! Wouldn't mind any of those amounts in my bank account to be honest though! Besides which, Newcastle United with the backing of Arab billions would be a different animal and anyone expecting a club like Stoke - even with our backing - to compete with them would have to be a bit deranged. |
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Post by Squeekster on May 27, 2019 18:37:08 GMT
Yes the last report I saw said 5.2 billion but I thought I heard on the radio it was 6billion something but as you say it's not 150billion or any ware near! Wouldn't mind any of those amounts in my bank account to be honest though! Besides which, Newcastle United with the backing of Arab billions would be a different animal and anyone expecting a club like Stoke - even with our backing - to compete with them would have to be a bit deranged.  |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 27, 2019 18:54:53 GMT
Is that link now out of date now Dave? Possibly, but even so they're nowhere near as wealthy as these prospective new Newcastle owners. Out of date by 50% 😉 |
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Post by Davef on May 27, 2019 19:05:05 GMT
Possibly, but even so they're nowhere near as wealthy as these prospective new Newcastle owners. Out of date by 50% 😉 Still miles apart in terms of wealth. |
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Post by owdestokie2 on May 27, 2019 19:16:21 GMT
These rich Arabs are ruining the game. Taking all the transfer fees up to an even more obscene level. Greed and ego will ruin our game and one day a big club will implode. It was great being in the PL league but the Championship is a far better more competitive exciting league. With proper fans and far more British players. The Championship is a hell hole of shite teams playing shite football. It was great being in the PL and we should be doing our utmost to get back there. Pugs I’m really becoming concerned, I’m agreeing with you more and more (bar comments about 1 individual). Please don’t anyone take offence, but for those who think the EFL is the place to be.......wake up, give your head a good wobble and have a strong cup of tea. If this doesn’t work seek professional help  |
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Post by sportsman on May 27, 2019 19:31:31 GMT
But can they attract players that far north of England? Even paying big wages they still have go watch ffp
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Post by wuzza on May 27, 2019 19:52:16 GMT
It’s slightly ironic that in these ever more insular times with regard ‘foreigners’ the man in the street seems to have no issues whatsoever with regard their cherished football clubs being run by whatever overseas set up happens along.
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Post by baystokie on May 27, 2019 19:56:42 GMT
But can they attract players that far north of England? Even paying big wages they still have go watch ffp Blimey, it only takes me 3 hours drive to visit family in Stoke. There's plenty of countryside and coastal living space. The only restriction on NUFC is the ambition and quality of their management. Starting with Rafa, they have a head start. |
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Post by haway on May 27, 2019 20:09:28 GMT
But can they attract players that far north of England? Even paying big wages they still have go watch ffp Pay footballers enough money and they’ll gladly move. |
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Post by baystokie on May 27, 2019 20:09:31 GMT
It’s slightly ironic that in these ever more insular times with regard ‘foreigners’ the man in the street seems to have no issues whatsoever with regard their cherished football clubs being run by whatever overseas set up happens along. Apart from an initial 'moral outrage', Joe Public realises he has little influence on who runs his football club. He has more chance (ie by voting) of influencing who runs his local Council than the football club. To be honest, if you had ploughed £30m into a club, how would you respond to 'men in the street' trying to judge you? Again you probably don't know who owns the businesses that produce the food you eat, the clothes you wear and the company for whom you work - and probably don't care as long as you can afford the goods and get paid - so why is the football club different? |
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Post by wuzza on May 27, 2019 20:19:25 GMT
It’s slightly ironic that in these ever more insular times with regard ‘foreigners’ the man in the street seems to have no issues whatsoever with regard their cherished football clubs being run by whatever overseas set up happens along. Apart from an initial 'moral outrage', Joe Public realises he has little influence on who runs his football club. He has more chance (ie by voting) of influencing who runs his local Council than the football club. To be honest, if you had ploughed £30m into a club, how would you respond to 'men in the street' trying to judge you? Again you probably don't know who owns the businesses that produce the food you eat, the clothes you wear and the company for whom you work - and probably don't care as long as you can afford the goods and get paid - so why is the football club different? It’s an oft quoted belief that football isn’t ‘ like any other other business’ . It’s not worth going into but there is an underlying hypocrisy going on that doesn’t bear close examination. Bottom line is that it is terrible for the future of the game as a whole in this country if decisions about its future are directly influenced by parties all over the globe who have no interest other than their own little investment. |
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Post by Pugsley on May 27, 2019 20:28:07 GMT
Apart from an initial 'moral outrage', Joe Public realises he has little influence on who runs his football club. He has more chance (ie by voting) of influencing who runs his local Council than the football club. To be honest, if you had ploughed £30m into a club, how would you respond to 'men in the street' trying to judge you? Again you probably don't know who owns the businesses that produce the food you eat, the clothes you wear and the company for whom you work - and probably don't care as long as you can afford the goods and get paid - so why is the football club different? It’s an oft quoted belief that football isn’t ‘ like any other other business’ . It’s not worth going into but there is an underlying hypocrisy going on that doesn’t bear close examination. Bottom line is that it is terrible for the future of the game as a whole in this country if decisions about its future are directly influenced by parties all over the globe who have no interest other than their own little investment. Name me one owner in the history of football that wasn't interested in anything other than their own investment. There are good owners and bad owners, whether foreign or British. |
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Post by JoeinOz on May 27, 2019 21:51:25 GMT
Not really any more fire power than our current owners You can't realistically compare the two. I mean, you can, but I did say realistically. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 27, 2019 22:02:06 GMT
These rich Arabs are ruining the game. Taking all the transfer fees up to an even more obscene level. Greed and ego will ruin our game and one day a big club will implode. It was great being in the PL league but the Championship is a far better more competitive exciting league. With proper fans and far more British players. The Championship is a hell hole of shite teams playing shite football. It was great being in the PL and we should be doing our utmost to get back there. Plenty of shit teams playing shit football in the Prem to be fair, I enjoyed the Prem and it would be nice to get back there but I do understand why people are preferring the Champ or at least enjoying it. |
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