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Post by lordb on May 17, 2019 21:05:50 GMT
Boris just on the news My Mrs said " he can't even tuck his shirt in, how could he run the country"
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Post by steve66 on May 18, 2019 0:52:14 GMT
Boris just on the news My Mrs said " he can't even tuck his shirt in, how could he run the country" Ha ha, I said same thing this morning when he was in the street running from reporters!
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Post by cooper67 on May 25, 2019 1:29:23 GMT
Who are we going for??
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2019 1:31:53 GMT
I'd be chuffed with: Gove, Ether Mcvey, Steve Baker.
I could tolerate a JRMogg, Boris type so long as they actually deliver full metal brexit.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2019 1:34:23 GMT
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Post by ravey123 on May 25, 2019 8:08:43 GMT
I'd be chuffed with: Gove, Ether Mcvey, Steve Baker. I could tolerate a JRMogg, Boris type so long as they actually deliver full metal brexit. Rory Stewart just effectively ruled himself out in a Sky News interview trying to put his credentials forward as athe new tory leader - asked if he would serve in a Johnson cabinet he replied absolutely not because he (Rory Stewart) cannot support a no deal brexit. You could see the realisation of "oh shit, did I just really say that" in his face as soon as he said it
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 25, 2019 8:13:38 GMT
70,000 senile old right wing farts choosing the next PM to make the toughest choices since the war.
That's British democracy folks.
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Post by ravey123 on May 25, 2019 8:25:39 GMT
70,000 senile old right wing farts choosing the next PM to make the toughest choices since the war. That's British democracy folks. I agree but a genuine question - is the process similar if Labour had to elect a new leader? To be fair if a standing Prime Minister resigns, short of a new election how else could they choose a new leader? Whilst it seems weird I can see some sort of logic in this system of slowly narrowing the field down to 2. It gives a far better chance of the final winner getting a clear majority - how would it pan out if there were say 5 candidates and all got around 20% with one slightly higher - you can see the opposition saying "why should we listen to a prime minister who only gets 20% party support". At least narrowing it down to 2 to choose from makes it clear who wins - politicians are experts at making figures and numbers suit their arguments. I'm not saying its perfect but it seems to be a decent way of doing it. And before anyone says anything I've never voted tory in my life
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Post by zerps on May 25, 2019 8:26:30 GMT
It’s Boris. 100%
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Post by ravey123 on May 25, 2019 8:28:29 GMT
It will be Boris if he gets to the last 2 but can't see the MP's letting him get in the last 2
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Post by ravey123 on May 25, 2019 8:29:03 GMT
It will be Boris if he gets to the last 2 but can't see the MP's letting him get in the last 2 My money is on Steve Baker
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 25, 2019 8:32:10 GMT
70,000 senile old right wing farts choosing the next PM to make the toughest choices since the war. That's British democracy folks. I agree but a genuine question - is the process similar if Labour had to elect a new leader? To be fair if a standing Prime Minister resigns, short of a new election how else could they choose a new leader? Whilst it seems weird I can see some sort of logic in this system of slowly narrowing the field down to 2. It gives a far better chance of the final winner getting a clear majority - how would it pan out if there were say 5 candidates and all got around 20% with one slightly higher - you can see the opposition saying "why should we listen to a prime minister who only gets 20% party support". At least narrowing it down to 2 to choose from makes it clear who wins - politicians are experts at making figures and numbers suit their arguments. I'm not saying its perfect but it seems to be a decent way of doing it. And before anyone says anything I've never voted tory in my life I've got no real problem with the candidate being chosen that way but they must go to the country at the very earliest opportunity. Every candidate who has been asked so far has said they will not do so, so we are in the hands of a bunch of reactionary blue rinse loons who drive to Dover at the weekends to shake their fists at the continent.
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 25, 2019 8:32:27 GMT
70,000 senile old right wing farts choosing the next PM to make the toughest choices since the war. That's British democracy folks. Fuck off, Trotsky! Morning, mate.
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Post by desman2 on May 25, 2019 8:32:31 GMT
It will be Boris if he gets to the last 2 but can't see the MP's letting him get in the last 2 Problem they've got is not to be seen to be tactically trying to provide the same old, same old. I think people are more wiser now than in other times. They are gambling on survive or die.
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Post by teenagefanclub on May 25, 2019 8:35:35 GMT
Matt hancock nailed on. Goaarrn Matty lad
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Post by LL Cool Dave on May 25, 2019 8:39:45 GMT
Matt hancock nailed on. Goaarrn Matty lad Probably one of the only ones without a blemish against their name along with Penny Mordaunt I'm still going for Gove. A lukewarm Brexiter.
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Post by lordb on May 25, 2019 8:55:18 GMT
Matt hancock nailed on. Goaarrn Matty lad Probably one of the only ones without a blemish against their name along with Penny Mordaunt I'm still going for Gove. A lukewarm Brexiter. Give is foul A truly awful man.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on May 25, 2019 8:56:02 GMT
Leadsom
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 25, 2019 8:56:28 GMT
Probably one of the only ones without a blemish against their name along with Penny Mordaunt I'm still going for Gove. A lukewarm Brexiter. Give is foul A truly awful man. What about Gove? 😜
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 25, 2019 9:01:12 GMT
I liked her in the build up to the referendum and thought she was stitched up(probably to put Remainer May in) over that comment. Trouble is, it will be brought up again to discredit her.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 25, 2019 9:09:53 GMT
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Post by bathstoke on May 25, 2019 9:36:39 GMT
This is not going to end well. You can call them Bexitiers, you can call them Remainers, but by the hands of an in house fight, the Tories have sent us into a civil war that will endure for decades. This is not self fulfilling prophecy, it is fact. David Cameron & his party will be infamous in the annals of history. CassandraXx
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 25, 2019 9:49:37 GMT
This is not going to end well. You can call them Bexitiers, you can call them Remainers, but by the hands of an in house fight, the Tories have sent us into a civil war that will endure for decades. This is not self fulfilling prophecy, it is fact. David Cameron & his party will be infamous in the annals of history. CassandraXx You might be right in some ways Bath But Supposing a majority of people actually wanted to not be in the EU.... how had they supposed to do it? Should they just be quiet and put up with being a member? Why?
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 25, 2019 9:53:25 GMT
This is not going to end well. You can call them Bexitiers, you can call them Remainers, but by the hands of an in house fight, the Tories have sent us into a civil war that will endure for decades. This is not self fulfilling prophecy, it is fact. David Cameron & his party will be infamous in the annals of history. CassandraXx You might be right in some ways Bath But Supposing a majority of people actually wanted to not be in the EU.... how had they supposed to do it? Should they just be quiet and put up with being a member? Why? Don't forget we were never asked if we wanted to go in, in the first place! Then we were conned into staying in by politicians from all parties. This has been festering for years.
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Post by desman2 on May 25, 2019 9:55:27 GMT
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Post by bathstoke on May 25, 2019 9:59:32 GMT
This is not going to end well. You can call them Bexitiers, you can call them Remainers, but by the hands of an in house fight, the Tories have sent us into a civil war that will endure for decades. This is not self fulfilling prophecy, it is fact. David Cameron & his party will be infamous in the annals of history. CassandraXx You might be right in some ways Bath But Supposing a majority of people actually wanted to not be in the EU.... how had they supposed to do it? Should they just be quiet and put up with being a member? Why? This isnt about maths is it. When democracy hangs by such a small thread it’s in danger. That’s why Cameron was such a cnut to call it ⚖️
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Post by lordb on May 25, 2019 10:01:52 GMT
Give is foul A truly awful man. What about Gove? 😜 Him too
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Post by auntiegeorge on May 25, 2019 10:14:37 GMT
70,000 senile old right wing farts choosing the next PM to make the toughest choices since the war. That's British democracy folks. I fully take your point sheikhy, but don't forget that in 1940 Winston Churchill was apponted by just one man - King George VI. 70,000 (actually around 125,000) is democratic by comparison! And this is probably the biggest issue since 1940. Maybe the queen should simply appoint the new PM?
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 25, 2019 10:21:34 GMT
You might be right in some ways Bath But Supposing a majority of people actually wanted to not be in the EU.... how had they supposed to do it? Should they just be quiet and put up with being a member? Why? This isnt about maths is it. When democracy hangs by such a small thread it’s in danger. That’s why Cameron was such a cnut to call it ⚖️ It does not answer my question though. If we were not in the EU ,do you think that there should be a mechanism to take us in or ,( and I'm not necessarily saying that i think that you are wrong) are you saying that we should just leave everything to MPs , who always know better. Or is it just those that you agree with that know better,?) If the Remainers had simply accepted the result ( democracy as you say, hanging by a thread) we could have been out by now. And I do think that it is about the maths, a little bit, in a voting situation.
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Post by lordb on May 25, 2019 10:24:41 GMT
This isnt about maths is it. When democracy hangs by such a small thread it’s in danger. That’s why Cameron was such a cnut to call it ⚖️ It does not answer my question though. If we were not in the EU ,do you think that there should be s mechanism to take us in or ,( and I'm not necessarily saying that Y think that you are wrong) are you saying that we should just leave everything to MOd , who always know better. Or is it just those that you agree with that know better,? If the Remainers had simply accepted the result ( democracy as you say, hanging by a thread) we could have been out by now. You sure? Out how? No deal out? Take all the remainers out of the equation and there is still a myriad of bitter infighting re what sort of Brexit.
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