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Post by canadianmoose on Aug 19, 2019 11:29:54 GMT
In the interest of balance, Afobe wouldn't have made the run or put the cross in for Hogan like Gregory did, and that was a ball suited to his strengths. This is true. He would have watched Butlands kick sail over his head and not even attempted to run for it.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 19, 2019 11:33:16 GMT
I would not be surprised if he scores the 14-15 goals per season at Bristol City.....the ones we were hoping to get.
I didn't think his movement off the ball was that bad, but he got very few scoring opportunities because of our lack of creativity from midfield.
All strikers miss chances. The ones he missed seemed all the more glaring because they didn't come around so often but he got into good positions and he was badly lacking in confidence.
Its possible he got disillusioned last season and that was reflected in his body language, though I think this is being overstated.
Some of us kept banging on last season about our midfield and creativity, but we were led to believe they were the best in the League.
Looking a lot better going forward this season but concerning lack of cover in that area now. Still the problem area for me.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 19, 2019 11:35:39 GMT
I would not be surprised if he scores the 14-15 goals per season at Bristol City.....the ones we were hoping to get. I didn't think his movement off the ball was that bad, but he got very few scoring opportunities because of our lack of creativity from midfield. All strikers miss chances. The ones he missed seemed all the more glaring because they didn't come around so often but he got into good positions. Its possible he got disillusioned last season and that was reflected in his body language, though I think this is being overstated. Some of us kept banging on last season about our midfield and creativity, but we were led to believe they were the best in the League. Looking a lot better going forward this season but concerning lack of cover in that area now. Still the problem area for me. He frequently didn’t get into good positions or bother to run or jump. Maybe I’ll play the ‘disillusioned’ card as an excuse for not doing my much less well paid job and see how I get on.
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Post by biglad180 on Aug 19, 2019 11:48:00 GMT
Hope it goes well for him and we get somewhere near our money back.just not worked out for him here
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 19, 2019 11:50:42 GMT
I would not be surprised if he scores the 14-15 goals per season at Bristol City.....the ones we were hoping to get. I didn't think his movement off the ball was that bad, but he got very few scoring opportunities because of our lack of creativity from midfield. All strikers miss chances. The ones he missed seemed all the more glaring because they didn't come around so often but he got into good positions. Its possible he got disillusioned last season and that was reflected in his body language, though I think this is being overstated. Some of us kept banging on last season about our midfield and creativity, but we were led to believe they were the best in the League. Looking a lot better going forward this season but concerning lack of cover in that area now. Still the problem area for me. He frequently didn’t get into good positions or bother to run or jump. Maybe I’ll play the ‘disillusioned’ card as an excuse for not doing my much less well paid job and see how I get on. I dont think its a major revelation to state that goalscorers' games are built on confidence and it effects all levels of their game. Look at Hogan, he will probably be unrecognisable to Villa fans now. They thought he was idle waster. If you look at their forums you will find many of the same comments you see on here about Afobe though. "How much does Scott Hogan gets paid to jog to the halfway line and back?" was one thread on the Villa forum. So far so good here. There are so many factors that contribute to this though.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 19, 2019 12:08:50 GMT
He frequently didn’t get into good positions or bother to run or jump. Maybe I’ll play the ‘disillusioned’ card as an excuse for not doing my much less well paid job and see how I get on. I dont think its a major revelation to state that goalscorers' games are built on confidence and it effects all levels of their game. Look at Hogan, he will probably be unrecognisable to Villa fans now. They thought he was idle waster. If you look at their forums you will find many of the same comments you see on here about Afobe though. "How much does Scott Hogan gets paid to jog to the halfway line and back?" was one thread on the Villa forum. So far so good here. There are so many factors that contribute to this though. Confidence is one thing but it shouldn’t mean you stop trying.
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 19, 2019 12:18:36 GMT
Afobe on grass = Bambi on ice
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Post by westgatelakes on Aug 19, 2019 13:07:40 GMT
My Wolves mate told me that Afobe was as weak as shit when we signed him but was a good bet to score on one on ones with the keeper, so what do we do, either play him on the wing or hammer balls up to him at chest height with his back to goal !
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Post by right on Aug 19, 2019 13:42:28 GMT
I would not be surprised if he scores the 14-15 goals per season at Bristol City.....the ones we were hoping to get. I didn't think his movement off the ball was that bad, but he got very few scoring opportunities because of our lack of creativity from midfield. All strikers miss chances. The ones he missed seemed all the more glaring because they didn't come around so often but he got into good positions. Its possible he got disillusioned last season and that was reflected in his body language, though I think this is being overstated. Some of us kept banging on last season about our midfield and creativity, but we were led to believe they were the best in the League. Looking a lot better going forward this season but concerning lack of cover in that area now. Still the problem area for me. He frequently didn’t get into good positions or bother to run or jump. Maybe I’ll play the ‘disillusioned’ card as an excuse for not doing my much less well paid job and see how I get on. It's like the opposite Diouf, who all he did was work hard and get in good positions to score
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Post by bathstoke on Aug 19, 2019 14:57:19 GMT
I dont think its a major revelation to state that goalscorers' games are built on confidence and it effects all levels of their game. Look at Hogan, he will probably be unrecognisable to Villa fans now. They thought he was idle waster. If you look at their forums you will find many of the same comments you see on here about Afobe though. "How much does Scott Hogan gets paid to jog to the halfway line and back?" was one thread on the Villa forum. So far so good here. There are so many factors that contribute to this though. Confidence is one thing but it shouldn’t mean you stop trying. No, Confidence is a preference for the habitual voyeur of what is known as Parklife!
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Post by mattador78 on Aug 19, 2019 15:14:04 GMT
Confidence is one thing but it shouldn’t mean you stop trying. No, Confidence is a preference for the habitual voyeur of what is known as Parklife! That explains it Afobe was feeding the pigeons and sometimes sparrows to during the match as it gave him an enormous sense of well-being 😉
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Post by bathstoke on Aug 19, 2019 15:18:21 GMT
No, Confidence is a preference for the habitual voyeur of what is known as Parklife! That explains it Afobe was feeding the pigeons and sometimes sparrows to during the match as it gave him an enormous sense of well-being 😉 He was intimidated by them dirty pigeons
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Post by kustokie on Aug 19, 2019 15:27:22 GMT
Performances in pre-season are difficult to judge. Vokes scored a few in pre-season yet his performance against QPR was worse than Afobes in my opinion. You say he shouldn’t have started because he didn’t have a great game which is being able to look at it in hindsight really. The reaction of those in the crowd who booed/jeered was over the top. Ideally Ince would have replaced Afobe straight away .... I just wouldn’t put the same level of emphasis on the fact that he didn’t as you have. I say he shouldn't have started because he was absolutely dog shit last season and showed nothing in pre-season to suggest he was anything other than dog shit. I was gutted he started against Leicester for that same reason. He's crap. He was the “dog-shit” top scorer last season, which is emblematic of how dog-shit bad we were.
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Post by Northy on Aug 19, 2019 15:32:40 GMT
The chance he scored on Saturday even Joe Allen my 83 year old mum could have scored
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Post by berahinosgoals on Aug 19, 2019 15:46:02 GMT
That explains it Afobe was feeding the pigeons and sometimes sparrows to during the match as it gave him an enormous sense of well-being 😉 He was intimidated by them dirty pigeons They love a bit of him
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Post by mrred on Aug 19, 2019 15:55:16 GMT
He's one of the biggest cowards I've seen as a forward and I'm glad we're shut of him. His work rate was appalling.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 20, 2019 20:04:36 GMT
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 20, 2019 20:16:07 GMT
I thought Derby looked really poor at the weekend. I don't think they'll threaten any higher than mid table this time
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 20:16:26 GMT
Afobe 'too strong' for them? Perhaps he just wasn't trying, because he was weak as piss, the numerous times I've watched him.
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Post by somersetstokie on Aug 20, 2019 20:20:53 GMT
Bristol City 2-0 up on Derby tonight. Thankfully neither goal scored by Afobe.
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 20, 2019 20:22:52 GMT
Looking at the stats Bristol seem to have been more clinical and have been outplayed. Reality may be different.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 20, 2019 20:23:11 GMT
Bristol City 2-0 up on Derby tonight. Thankfully neither goal scored by Afobe. Why are you thankful for that?
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Post by somersetstokie on Aug 20, 2019 20:33:46 GMT
Bristol City 2-0 up on Derby tonight. Thankfully neither goal scored by Afobe. Why are you thankful for that? Much as I am all in favour of players coming good and reviving their careers after a new opportunity, I would find it somewhat depressing if it was one of our players performing well for someone else, especially in the same league. Hopefully though if he scores a few it might bolster any transfer fee we might get for him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 20:43:54 GMT
Why are you thankful for that? Much as I am all in favour of players coming good and reviving their careers after a new opportunity, I would find it somewhat depressing if it was one of our players performing well for someone else, especially in the same league. Hopefully though if he scores a few it might bolster any transfer fee we might get for him. I think it's highly unlikely that we'll come anywhere near the outrageous fee we paid for him; even if BC was prepared to pay a couple of millions for him, would they pay his wages without us paying part of them. No we must hope he comes back a changed man and that Jones still wants to play him.
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Post by march4 on Aug 20, 2019 20:44:00 GMT
Derby are a poor side who will struggle this season.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 21:16:20 GMT
Afobe was utter dogshit. Typical Stoke performance by him. Flattered to deceive, never looked like scoring, shit touch, ran and chased down nothing second half.
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Post by Jimm on Aug 20, 2019 21:18:19 GMT
Afobe was hung out to dry for us, like most strikers, they get little to zero service
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 20, 2019 21:42:09 GMT
Afobe was hung out to dry for us, like most strikers, they get little to zero service Hogan seems to be making the most of it though Jimm?
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Post by Jimm on Aug 20, 2019 21:46:02 GMT
Afobe was hung out to dry for us, like most strikers, they get little to zero service Hogan seems to be making the most of it though Jimm? As Gregory seems to be the grafter to create for him to be a number 9. What was that stat, in the last 5 years of strikers we've signed they've scored 53 goals in 351 games. It's a shocking stat and it's not like we;ve constantly brought donkeys
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 21:50:10 GMT
I thought Derby looked really poor at the weekend. I don't think they'll threaten any higher than mid table this time Yeah, I thought Marriott was their only quality player really; played well when he came on. Again, he’s come off the bench this evening and scored too. They looked pretty average for the most part.
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