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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 3:57:11 GMT
The last 5 minutes of GoT basically
Show a lot of things happing at once, Remind everyone of what's going on (What's going on?) And with every shot you show a little improvement To show it all would take to long That's called a montage (Montage)
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Post by madnellie on May 20, 2019 6:32:06 GMT
The last 5 minutes of GoT basicallyShow a lot of things happing at once, Remind everyone of what's going on (What's going on?) And with every shot you show a little improvement To show it all would take to long That's called a montage (Montage) I was actually singing that in my head as I watched it, which tells you everything about the ending really. What an absolutely terrible episode.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 9:05:51 GMT
Only my opinion....i've been supportive for the last 2 series as there have been elements of great TV in, if I'm honest, a bog average couple of seasons This last series I honestly loved episode 3 I've watched episode 6 and I cant quite believe it's been done by the same creators
Gutted
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on May 20, 2019 10:02:47 GMT
Only my opinion....i've been supportive for the last 2 series as there have been elements of great TV in, if I'm honest, a bog average couple of seasons This last series I honestly loved episode 3 I've watched episode 6 and I cant quite believe it's been done by the same creators Gutted I think it would take a super mega fan to not be appalled by that, I can’t fathom any of the creative decisions at all. Brienne’s was the only one where I was like, yeah that’s closure. Such a crying shame.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 11:40:44 GMT
Only my opinion....i've been supportive for the last 2 series as there have been elements of great TV in, if I'm honest, a bog average couple of seasons This last series I honestly loved episode 3 I've watched episode 6 and I cant quite believe it's been done by the same creators Gutted I think it would take a super mega fan to not be appalled by that, I can’t fathom any of the creative decisions at all. Brienne’s was the only one where I was like, yeah that’s closure. Such a crying shame. 👍 i think they must have asked one of runners to write it while they went on holiday
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Post by ParaPsych on May 20, 2019 11:59:22 GMT
I'm satisfied with the destination.
Spoilers....
I'm fine with Dany going mad and getting killed by Jon. I'm fine with Bran becoming king. Tyrion becoming hand. Sansa queen of the North. Arya fucking off west. Jon fucking off North.
I'm fine with all of that. Even a fair bit of the thematic stuff worked for me regarding war and rule and power. All that shit. Fine it works for me. In theory.
But so much of this was rushed or hand waved. And so much of the previously great character work lacking.
I basically felt no emotions about it all.
I'm sure the books, if ever finished, will hit much of the same endpoint, but do it far better.
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Post by GrahamHyde on May 20, 2019 12:16:11 GMT
Should have been far more emotional than I was, as with many others I was thoroughly disappointed - what an anti-climax. Just absolute emptiness.
Agree with the point about Brienne, that was the best scene in the episode in my opinion, albeit a little cheesy.
Spoilers...
For me the Bran reveal as the king was the biggest load of bullshit. Why him? So random.
Should have either been Jon alone, or alongside Dany - perfect opportunity to turn him heel.
Just seems that revealing Jon to be Aegon was just utterly pointless if he wasn't going to become king.
Also failed to make the link when Bran said something like "Why do you think I came all this way?" - suggests that this was his plan all along, and he saw the events playing out?
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on May 20, 2019 12:24:41 GMT
I'm satisfied with the destination. Spoilers.... I'm fine with Dany going mad and getting killed by Jon. I'm fine with Bran becoming king. Tyrion becoming hand. Sansa queen of the North. Arya fucking off west. Jon fucking off North. I'm fine with all of that. Even a fair bit of the thematic stuff worked for me regarding war and rule and power. All that shit. Fine it works for me. In theory. But so much of this was rushed or hand waved. And so much of the previously great character work lacking. I basically felt no emotions about it all. I'm sure the books, if ever finished, will hit much of the same endpoint, but do it far better. Dany going mad is fine and a theme I want, but I can't fathom Bran becoming King at all. It'll take a hell of a lot of explaining in the books and in the show they acutely contradicted everything he's said about power and titles. ("I can never be lord of anywhere, I'm the 3 eyed raven) Sansa being Queen is fine too and the North being independent again. I agree though, there was no emotional weight behind any characters departure at all, Brienne's was the only one I felt was mildly poignant.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on May 20, 2019 12:26:10 GMT
Should have been far more emotional than I was, as with many others I was thoroughly disappointed - what an anti-climax. Just absolute emptiness. Agree with the point about Brienne, that was the best scene in the episode in my opinion, albeit a little cheesy. Spoilers... For me the Bran reveal as the king was the biggest load of bullshit. Why him? So random. Should have either been Jon alone, or alongside Dany - perfect opportunity to turn him heel. Just seems that revealing Jon to be Aegon was just utterly pointless if he wasn't going to become king. Also failed to make the link when Bran said something like "Why do you think I came all this way?" - suggests that this was his plan all along, and he saw the events playing out? Jon could have still been a bastard and their story would not have been affected in any way whatsoever. That's how pointless the 6 series of baiting that reveal were.
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Post by questionable on May 20, 2019 12:33:36 GMT
Well that was absolutely awful, in fact atrocious.
It’s almost as if they handed a pencil and notepad to a class full of 7 year olds and let them decide how to write the ending, in fact they’d probably do at a better job.
Shocking ending
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Post by ParaPsych on May 20, 2019 12:36:33 GMT
Jon not becoming king and them scrapping the whole birthright thing was one of the better things for me.
It would have been a travesty to have that useless plank king just because he has the right name.
Besides he's happier oop north with his bro Tormund.
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Post by followyoudown on May 20, 2019 12:40:21 GMT
Should have been far more emotional than I was, as with many others I was thoroughly disappointed - what an anti-climax. Just absolute emptiness. Agree with the point about Brienne, that was the best scene in the episode in my opinion, albeit a little cheesy. Spoilers... For me the Bran reveal as the king was the biggest load of bullshit. Why him? So random. Should have either been Jon alone, or alongside Dany - perfect opportunity to turn him heel. Just seems that revealing Jon to be Aegon was just utterly pointless if he wasn't going to become king. Also failed to make the link when Bran said something like "Why do you think I came all this way?" - suggests that this was his plan all along, and he saw the events playing out? Jon could have still been a bastard and their story would not have been affected in any way whatsoever. That's how pointless the 6 series of baiting that reveal were. Then the dragon kills him for sticking his dagger in Dany again Some of the story endings just seemed like setting up spin offs (Jon Snow walking off into the wild), Ayra going wondering etc etc
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Post by followyoudown on May 20, 2019 12:41:41 GMT
Jon not becoming king and them scrapping the whole birthright thing was one of the better things for me. It would have been a travesty to have that useless plank king just because he has the right name. Besides he's happier oop north with his bro Tormund. Yes I also thought Dany provided another example of why socialism always fails too
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 20, 2019 16:35:35 GMT
I'm satisfied with the destination. Spoilers.... I'm fine with Dany going mad and getting killed by Jon. I'm fine with Bran becoming king. Tyrion becoming hand. Sansa queen of the North. Arya fucking off west. Jon fucking off North. I'm fine with all of that. Even a fair bit of the thematic stuff worked for me regarding war and rule and power. All that shit. Fine it works for me. In theory. But so much of this was rushed or hand waved. And so much of the previously great character work lacking. I basically felt no emotions about it all. I'm sure the books, if ever finished, will hit much of the same endpoint, but do it far better. Dany going mad is fine and a theme I want, but I can't fathom Bran becoming King at all. It'll take a hell of a lot of explaining in the books and in the show they acutely contradicted everything he's said about power and titles. ("I can never be lord of anywhere, I'm the 3 eyed raven) Sansa being Queen is fine too and the North being independent again. I agree though, there was no emotional weight behind any characters departure at all, Brienne's was the only one I felt was mildly poignant. Indeed. When I watched the final episode of Six Feet Under I sobbed uncontrollably as it ended and it totally consumed me for 48 hours. The final episode of The Sopranos I still think about to this day. When Game of Thrones started, I thought it was the most incredible television ever, it blew me away, I watched every episode of the first five seasons 8 times each and the last three seasons (as the writing fell off a cliff), each episode at least twice but the finale, will be the only episode of the whole thing I only watch once. I felt completely empty watching it and I had absolutely no emotional attachment to any of the characters whatsoever, it will surely go down as one of the biggest tragedies in television. Hopefully GRRM will finish both books and in 25 years time they will do a remake of it properly with a complete blue print this time, just hope I'm still around to see it.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 18:07:38 GMT
After a long think about it I'm pretty sure this has left so many loose ends theres got to be a follow up.... Even tho they said they're not
I think theyll come back in a few years time saying.....well, with so many people frustrated we had to
When all along it was setup that way
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 18:50:48 GMT
Makes you wonder, the writers and showrunners were hailed for years for creating masterpiece television but when the material dried up so did the quality of the show. They are great at adapting but looking increasingly shit at fleshing out from a framework. How will their Star Wars trilogy compare I wonder?
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Post by harryburrows on May 20, 2019 18:55:55 GMT
After a long think about it I'm pretty sure this has left so many loose ends theres got to be a follow up.... Even tho they said they're not I think theyll come back in a few years time saying.....well, with so many people frustrated we had to When all along it was setup that way The Americans will never leave a dollar behind
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Post by ParaPsych on May 20, 2019 19:05:52 GMT
Makes you wonder, the writers and showrunners were hailed for years for creating masterpiece television but when the material dried up so did the quality of the show. They are great at adapting but looking increasingly shit at fleshing out from a framework. How will their Star Wars trilogy compare I wonder? It could well be getting the Star Wars gig is what caused them to rush the last couple of seasons?
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 20, 2019 19:17:37 GMT
Makes you wonder, the writers and showrunners were hailed for years for creating masterpiece television but when the material dried up so did the quality of the show. They are great at adapting but looking increasingly shit at fleshing out from a framework. How will their Star Wars trilogy compare I wonder? It could well be getting the Star Wars gig is what caused them to rush the last couple of seasons? I suggested exactly that to Smudge this afternoon.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 19:21:57 GMT
Makes you wonder, the writers and showrunners were hailed for years for creating masterpiece television but when the material dried up so did the quality of the show. They are great at adapting but looking increasingly shit at fleshing out from a framework. How will their Star Wars trilogy compare I wonder? It could well be getting the Star Wars gig is what caused them to rush the last couple of seasons? This last season has been in development since mid 2017 at the latest, the new Star Wars trilogy isn't due to start filming till around 2021 and hasn't entered into any kind of pre-production at least that's been announced. I just don't see why that would cause such a rush we're talking 3 years at least between the start of development and the possible start of development on their new film? Same to you Paul Spencer
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 20, 2019 21:00:59 GMT
It could well be getting the Star Wars gig is what caused them to rush the last couple of seasons? This last season has been in development since mid 2017 at the latest, the new Star Wars trilogy isn't due to start filming till around 2021 and hasn't entered into any kind of pre-production at least that's been announced. I just don't see why that would cause such a rush we're talking 3 years at least between the start of development and the possible start of development on their new film? Same to you Paul SpencerYou're probably right Rob ... which makes David and David's fuck up even more monumental.
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Post by Northy on May 20, 2019 21:10:03 GMT
After a long think about it I'm pretty sure this has left so many loose ends theres got to be a follow up.... Even tho they said they're not I think theyll come back in a few years time saying.....well, with so many people frustrated we had to When all along it was setup that way Arya's adventures west of Westeros
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 21:21:15 GMT
Very very wank ending.
2/10 tops.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 21:21:45 GMT
After a long think about it I'm pretty sure this has left so many loose ends theres got to be a follow up.... Even tho they said they're not I think theyll come back in a few years time saying.....well, with so many people frustrated we had to When all along it was setup that way Arya's adventures west of Westeros Hopefully they’ll sail for a long while, realise there’s fuck all there, turn back in a panic then run out of supplies a long way from Westeros and slowly go crazy as they eat one another. Saves us from some wretched SJW wankfest spinoff.
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Post by adri2008 on May 20, 2019 21:24:52 GMT
As others said, it's the rushed nature that has ruined it rather than where the plot eventually went.
Top of my shit list is the huge build up to the Night King and the White Walkers - winter is coming, snow starting to fall in Kings Landing etc etc - a real sense of an unstoppable force but when he finally turns up, the bloke gets killed in the first battle he faces. Massive anticlimax. On to the Kings Landing battle, all of a sudden the single remaining dragon is invincible and Dany decides to burn women and children for no real reason (mad or not). You could understand the massacre of soldiers but her whole character is based on freeing the oppressed, not burning them alive.
It's a real shame as the episodes from a stand alone point of view were epic and beautifully filmed. It just feels like such a let down now.
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Post by thevoid on May 21, 2019 0:38:25 GMT
My theory- John to kill Daenerys? Called it 😎 (Just seen it, obviously 😉) EDIT: shouldn't Sansa be needing a confirmatory vote before the North becomes independent?
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 2:11:04 GMT
Everything is better with a John Hughes 'Simple Minds' ending
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 5:48:11 GMT
After a long think about it I'm pretty sure this has left so many loose ends theres got to be a follow up.... Even tho they said they're not I think theyll come back in a few years time saying.....well, with so many people frustrated we had to When all along it was setup that way Arya's adventures west of Westeros Yep drogon drops Dani off with those lords of light fuckers and brings her back She gets grey worm and the drag queens ( unsullied) to attack Westeros again. John gets an sos call to bring his six fingered clan to save the day .....meet up with Sansa and her northern mob on his way south.....only John can stop a dragon I’m going to start the book now. Excuse the bad grammar 🤪
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 6:29:09 GMT
What I love about Game of Thrones is really nothing to do with the show it's the fact that it proved that if done right a fantasy show with a solid budget can produce the goods when it comes to an audience and hopefully now we get some top notch shows coming out as a result.
Amazon's Lord of the Rings HBO/BBC's His Dark Materials
Probably some others that I haven't yet looked into.
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Post by Northy on May 21, 2019 7:03:49 GMT
What I love about Game of Thrones is really nothing to do with the show it's the fact that it proved that if done right a fantasy show with a solid budget can produce the goods when it comes to an audience and hopefully now we get some top notch shows coming out as a result. Amazon's Lord of the Rings HBO/BBC's His Dark Materials Probably some others that I haven't yet looked into. waiting to see what type of the war of the worlds the BBC will be showing later on this year, and how good it is.
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