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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 22:10:59 GMT
Just wondering if anyone here has been tracking/building their "tree" and has gone so far as to take the DNA test.
Well I took the test about four years ago and it did "break down the wall".
My story is that my grandfather always claimed that we were Cornish miners (presumably coal,tin or copper) that moved up to Wales, mining coal, and eventually moved across to the Staffordshire coal fields. I decided to prove or disprove his words.
After about fifteen years, and many hundreds of hours (I did pursue this theory relentlessly) I hit the "wall". No Welsh connection at all. I decided that my grandfather must have become a bit delusional. I had found out that my grandfather's grandmother did remarry a Welshman named Phillips. I thought that this could explain his mistake.
So having decided that I had gone far enough with my family history (the tree). I stopped.
Then out of the blue comes a contact. We are DNA connected - some sort of cousins. WOW. His family (of the same name as mine) are Cornish miners that moved up to Wales, then across to England. His branch was in London.
I know that the test costs about £100, but I would say that it is well worth doing. You also get a very general test of your DNA.
I am Viking not Anglo Saxon. Mmm not sure how I feel about that. Some Spanish and Italian connections - very low 5%
Well at least I have no French connections. I'm not sure how i could have lived with that.
I would say that if you really are serious about building your "tree" - it is £100 well spent.
I do have two ancestors that were transported to to the land of golden nectar (Fosters). Both for horse stealing. Both from Caverswall. I tend not to back horses these days - my genes obviously cannot spot a bad runner.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 22:34:31 GMT
Taking up genealogy really is very interesting. As I stated above, my main purpose was to find a Welsh connection - if there was one.
I know that this is crazy, but my sister gets a very strong feeling of "being at home" in Cornwall. She told me that, I never asked her. I also get a sort of "glow", and feeling like coming home, when I am Wales.
I would encourage everyone to have a go at it.
Other than my two convicts from Caverswall, I also discovered a very mysterious divorce. Divorces were very rare back then. Only the rich could do that. My family is not rich.
I actually have the court papers from that divorce. There is a mystery there involving Eastern European Jews, and the building of hospitals in Manchester. My great grandmother was involved here somehow.
So if you like trying to unravel a mystery - try family history. At some point you will be asking questions that can never be answered. It is very frustrating - but golf is more frustrating.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Apr 7, 2019 0:13:03 GMT
Very interesting stuff mate, thnks for sharing that.
We were lucky in that an aunt and uncle used their retirement to do our tree.
They focused on my grandads mother and traced her line back to fifteenth Century Denmark.
Apparently political unrest and religious persecution lead to refugees crossing the North Sea.
Apparently our first local resident was Jonathon of Tadgedale {Loggerheads} d.1499, a basket weaver and front pew holder in Tadgedale Church.{and family}.
Our line had apparently crossed the sea, entering the Humber and following the Trent almost to it's source, at least to a point that there were Willows for weaving. The details are obviously lost in the midst of time but I suspect there may have already been links/trade etc rather than a panicked Mediaeval flight into the unknown.
Of course there are broken/lost lines and other lines that could have been pursued male/female.
But there is a generational surname continuity to the path they charted.
The line goes on to a family of Potters/farmers in the pre-industrial Joyners' square/Vic road roundabout area, producing ware.
Involved in the early Minton's.
On to Victorian times, and the head of the family {Poulson} was the first Alderman of Stoke.
Involved in both Football Clubs over the late C19th/early C20th.
To my Great Great Grandmother, Longsdon.
One day I'd love to more bones on it where possible, and have another prod at my Grandad's Dad's side.
My uncle tried, but we've found followed a false lead to a single woman from Powys, housekeeper at Powys Hall Wetley Rocks, who had travelled with the Hall owners with her seven sons, who all worked on digging local canals. Elizabeth and her sons existed but nowt to do with us.
Victorian Tanners from the Tanyard {a stinky lot} Cheddleton is as far back on that line we've got yet.
Puts a bit of context to historical events if there's a tangible named ancestor you could imagine living through plagues/wars etc etc.
Fascinating stuff.
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Post by thevoid on Apr 7, 2019 2:24:58 GMT
Black girl finds out she has European DNA and loses it:
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Post by felonious on Apr 7, 2019 8:19:46 GMT
Taking up genealogy really is very interesting. As I stated above, my main purpose was to find a Welsh connection - if there was one. I know that this is crazy, but my sister gets a very strong feeling of "being at home" in Cornwall. She told me that, I never asked her. I also get a sort of "glow", and feeling like coming home, when I am Wales.
I would encourage everyone to have a go at it. Other than my two convicts from Caverswall, I also discovered a very mysterious divorce. Divorces were very rare back then. Only the rich could do that. My family is not rich. I actually have the court papers from that divorce. There is a mystery there involving Eastern European Jews, and the building of hospitals in Manchester. My great grandmother was involved here somehow. So if you like trying to unravel a mystery - try family history. At some point you will be asking questions that can never be answered. It is very frustrating - but golf is more frustrating. It's an odd thing but I've experienced that feeling of home in Denmark and in no other country that I've visited. I put the feeling of "glow" when going to Wales down to that memory of the one weeks holiday a year I used to get when I was a kid in North Wales. |
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Post by scfcwebby on Apr 7, 2019 8:33:19 GMT
Black girl finds out she has European DNA and loses it: SJW DNA test 🤔 Let's be honest, we always knew super Jon had African descent, this now proves it!! |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Apr 7, 2019 13:46:31 GMT
I've found discussing the deceased old relatives with the existing old relatives an interesting {largely non controversial} topic for a chat.
Heard some interesting stuff I wouldn't have, they love all that too.
I don't reckon' I'd do the DNA thing, the nature of multiplication through generations means inevitably we're all melting pots.
Don't know a lot about the technology each company uses, suppose it depends what they're testing for and it's still developing/improving.
They've confirmed a percentage of Neanderthal in most Europeans nah.
Personally not worth the dollar, a bit like having a firm do your family coat of arms etc.
Each to their own.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Apr 7, 2019 16:49:10 GMT
I haven’t taken a DNA test but have traced most of my family back to early 1700s. There are strong links to the mining industry particularly North Wales and when that field closed there was a mass exodus to the North Staffs Coal Field by my family. Similar happened when the Somerset Coal field closed. I also have an ancestor who came from Ireland during the potato famine and became Police Inspector at Trentham. We also have links to the pottery industry and an ancestor married into the Cotton family and formed the Sherwin & Cotton Tile company.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 18:57:20 GMT
Taking up genealogy really is very interesting. As I stated above, my main purpose was to find a Welsh connection - if there was one. I know that this is crazy, but my sister gets a very strong feeling of "being at home" in Cornwall. She told me that, I never asked her. I also get a sort of "glow", and feeling like coming home, when I am Wales.
I would encourage everyone to have a go at it. Other than my two convicts from Caverswall, I also discovered a very mysterious divorce. Divorces were very rare back then. Only the rich could do that. My family is not rich. I actually have the court papers from that divorce. There is a mystery there involving Eastern European Jews, and the building of hospitals in Manchester. My great grandmother was involved here somehow. So if you like trying to unravel a mystery - try family history. At some point you will be asking questions that can never be answered. It is very frustrating - but golf is more frustrating. It's an odd thing but I've experienced that feeling of home in Denmark and in no other country that I've visited. I put the feeling of "glow" when going to Wales down to that memory of the one weeks holiday a year I used to get when I was a kid in North Wales. I get what you are saying about the holidays. Both myself and my sister were brought up in the far east. My wife absolutely loves the Lake District. So do I, what is there not to like, but Wales just pulls at me like a magnet. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 19:00:07 GMT
I've found discussing the deceased old relatives with the existing old relatives an interesting {largely non controversial} topic for a chat. Heard some interesting stuff I wouldn't have, they love all that too. I don't reckon' I'd do the DNA thing, the nature of multiplication through generations means inevitably we're all melting pots. Don't know a lot about the technology each company uses, suppose it depends what they're testing for and it's still developing/improving. They've confirmed a percentage of Neanderthal in most Europeans nah. Personally not worth the dollar, a bit like having a firm do your family coat of arms etc. Each to their own. When I took the test I had pretty much hit the "wall" on all my lines (some going back to the 1600s.
I had a £100 to spare, and took the test. I am glad that I did. Without that test I would be thinking that my grandfather had got his wires crossed somewhere.
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