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Post by nott1 on Apr 9, 2019 9:27:59 GMT
They tried to turn Arnie into a striker but he's not really good enough in that role. If they played him as a winger he is much better at that, and would now be a Hammers favourite instead of getting booed. His attitude is also againnst him as he is very arrogant and egotistical. His brother is an aresole full stop.
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Post by warringtonstokie on Apr 9, 2019 9:35:50 GMT
They tried to turn Arnie into a striker but he's not really good enough in that role. If they played him as a winger he is much better at that, and would now be a Hammers favourite instead of getting booed. His attitude is also againnst him as he is very arrogant and egotistical. His brother is an aresole full stop. He’s much better playing as a striker. He’s been their best player playing there and the only reason he’s not up to it now is because he’s an arsehole.
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Post by ElworthPotter on Apr 9, 2019 9:36:46 GMT
Has played really well second half Huth talks shit, as well as Walters did How does Huth talk shit there? Surely even the biggest Arnie fan can recognise there were games where he couldn’t be arsed and his performance reflected that?
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Apr 9, 2019 9:44:51 GMT
They tried to turn Arnie into a striker but he's not really good enough in that role. If they played him as a winger he is much better at that, and would now be a Hammers favourite instead of getting booed. His attitude is also againnst him as he is very arrogant and egotistical. His brother is an aresole full stop. I think him being booed by the fans is largely down to him wanting to (yet again) fuck off from the club he's currently with so he can chase some dollar, whilst using the bullshit excuse of "ambition" and then sulking ever since. It's got fuck all to do with the fact he isn't on the wing
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Post by nott1 on Apr 9, 2019 9:50:44 GMT
They tried to turn Arnie into a striker but he's not really good enough in that role. If they played him as a winger he is much better at that, and would now be a Hammers favourite instead of getting booed. His attitude is also againnst him as he is very arrogant and egotistical. His brother is an aresole full stop. He’s much better playing as a striker. He’s been their best player playing there and the only reason he’s not up to it now is because he’s an arsehole. He might be their best striker but that doesn't mean he is any good at it, hence their league position. He doesn't score prolifically and never has.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 9, 2019 10:01:59 GMT
He’s much better playing as a striker. He’s been their best player playing there and the only reason he’s not up to it now is because he’s an arsehole. He might be their best striker but that doesn't mean he is any good at it, hence their league position. He doesn't score prolifically and never has. He was fantastic for them in that role last season and far better than he was on the wing for them.
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Post by warringtonstokie on Apr 9, 2019 10:05:40 GMT
He’s much better playing as a striker. He’s been their best player playing there and the only reason he’s not up to it now is because he’s an arsehole. He might be their best striker but that doesn't mean he is any good at it, hence their league position. He doesn't score prolifically and never has. Best player full stop. He’s always had the tools to be a good number 9 in the Premier League and he’s shown it. Goals aren’t the only part of it either.
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Post by dreamtheater on Apr 9, 2019 10:06:42 GMT
I still find this vindictiveness towards him hypocritcal because:
Hes still the best, most talented football player I've seen in a Stoke City shirt in 25 years
easily in fact
We were lucky to have him for the time we did
and the nearest Stoke will ever get to an 'Eric Cantona' type player - pure world class with serious 'attitude'
Sadly, he could have played for much bigger more famous clubs than the one he chose -
and I think that's what got to people really
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 10:11:50 GMT
He might be their best striker but that doesn't mean he is any good at it, hence their league position. He doesn't score prolifically and never has. He was fantastic for them in that role last season and far better than he was on the wing for them. Which is exactly why he has attracted bids and had a strop when he couldn’t go, which is the reason he is now being booed.
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 9, 2019 10:15:15 GMT
I still find this vindictiveness towards him hypocritcal because: Hes still the best, most talented football player I've seen in a Stoke City shirt in 25 years easily in fact We were lucky to have him for the time we did and the nearest Stoke will ever get to an 'Eric Cantona' type player - pure world class with serious 'attitude' Sadly, he could have played for much bigger more famous clubs than the one he chose - and I think that's what got to people really If he could have played for more bigger famous clubs he'd have gone to them. West Ham were as good as it got for him.
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Post by Old School Stokie on Apr 9, 2019 10:32:35 GMT
Bigger Club? West Ham pulling in 60,000 and in bottom half of table, twice as many as Stoke - plenty big enough for Arnie
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 9, 2019 11:09:33 GMT
I still find this vindictiveness towards him hypocritcal because: Hes still the best, most talented football player I've seen in a Stoke City shirt in 25 years easily in fact We were lucky to have him for the time we did and the nearest Stoke will ever get to an 'Eric Cantona' type player - pure world class with serious 'attitude' Sadly, he could have played for much bigger more famous clubs than the one he chose - and I think that's what got to people really What got to people is that we rescued his career and he fucked off the second someone waved a bit more cash at him.
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Post by lordb on Apr 9, 2019 11:16:14 GMT
He’s much better playing as a striker. He’s been their best player playing there and the only reason he’s not up to it now is because he’s an arsehole. He might be their best striker but that doesn't mean he is any good at it, hence their league position. He doesn't score prolifically and never has. He can be superb as a striker but not often enough, if he was in a pair his other attributes would more than compensate for his inconsistent finishing, playing him on his own will only lead to frustration over a season
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Post by pez75 on Apr 9, 2019 11:16:46 GMT
I still find this vindictiveness towards him hypocritcal because: Hes still the best, most talented football player I've seen in a Stoke City shirt in 25 years easily in fact We were lucky to have him for the time we did and the nearest Stoke will ever get to an 'Eric Cantona' type player - pure world class with serious 'attitude' Sadly, he could have played for much bigger more famous clubs than the one he chose - and I think that's what got to people really What got to people is that we rescued his career and he fucked off the second someone waved a bit more cash at him. Not quite, he was persuaded to stay with a new contract and the promise of 'ambition'. He then later realised the club was starting to rot from the inside out and thats when the cuntery began. I am sure that if Stokes ambition (or at least its trajectory) had matched his, he would have stuck around - make of that what you will.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 9, 2019 11:31:52 GMT
What got to people is that we rescued his career and he fucked off the second someone waved a bit more cash at him. Not quite, he was persuaded to stay with a new contract and the promise of 'ambition'. He then later realised the club was starting to rot from the inside out and thats when the cuntery began. I am sure that if Stokes ambition (or at least its trajectory) had matched his, he would have stuck around - make of that what you will. Really? Was it 'ambition' that led him to do precisely the exact same thing at big, ambitious West Ham so he could go to the very apex of the professional game that is the Chinese league?
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 9, 2019 11:35:11 GMT
Players can rung their career along whatever agenda they choose. It's their choice. Some of them don't even like football, which os fair enough it's a job. BUT, for all that there's reasonable decent ways to go about things and there's slimy snaky ways to go about things.
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Post by somersetstokie on Apr 9, 2019 13:45:58 GMT
Time for the return of "The Secret Diary of Marko Arnautovic". I feel that some indepth personal insights into how things are going might be illuminating in the current situation.
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Post by dreamtheater on Apr 9, 2019 19:56:30 GMT
Mr Toxic I think your prejudice over a certain Marco Arnautovic is far worse than mine over Danny Rose. By the way, on that score someone once said :- 'They will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character'. tis Why I still happen to think Danny Rose is a cnut
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Post by swampySCFC on Apr 9, 2019 20:19:51 GMT
Bigger Club? West Ham pulling in 60,000 and in bottom half of table, twice as many as Stoke - plenty big enough for Arnie Sham havent got 60000 fans. Tourists maybe but not West Ham
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Post by Widget123 on Apr 9, 2019 20:49:02 GMT
Everything else aside Arnie has two major flaws; one is he can't turn up for every game, he's a very good player no doubt but will always be a 1 in 3 great player, it must be psychologically difficult for him knowing that he's that close to real greatness but will never reach it. Secondly he's very aware of how much footballers around him earn both above and below his station and like Nzonzi will kick up every opportunity about it looking for a payrise or a trying to manipulate one. The difference between Nzonzi and Arnie is that the former either came to his senses and put his career before money or was well advised to with a pay reducing move to a much better overseas team whereas we all know what Arnies #1 advisor/brother/arsecandle has always whispered into his ear and/or blatantly leaked to the press. He was destined to leave one day after that second season where he finally hit his stride it was only a matter of how long it'd take before he started rattling the cage. I'm not surprised he/his brother tried to engineer a move to China the second he has some exposure from a few good games for West Ham - it was in his DNA to do so and it doesn't make him a shit player, simply a complete mercenary.
As a final note Jose Mourinho described him as: "Marko is a great guy, but he has the mentality of a child.". I'd say that sums him up to a tee.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 4, 2019 10:06:39 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 10:08:35 GMT
Italian teams don’t pay enough. If he had any real footballing ambition he’d be off like a shot though, I won’t hold my breath.....
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jun 4, 2019 10:20:55 GMT
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Post by nott1 on Jun 4, 2019 10:24:27 GMT
He should be quite a linguist by the time his career ends!
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Post by kelw on Jun 4, 2019 10:27:54 GMT
He should be quite a linguist by the time his career ends! He was briefly at Inter before under Mourinho. Would get a nice pay off from West Ham, large signing on fee, decent salary. Could see it happening and a nice payday for us.
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Post by cousindupree on Jun 4, 2019 10:56:27 GMT
As others have said the wedge is unlikely to tempt Arnie and his brother. But looked at purely on footballing terms...Conte's Inter in the Champs League v A West Ham team going nowhere in the prem and Milan v the cesspit that is East London would be a no brainer for me.
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Post by stokeykez on Jun 4, 2019 11:39:27 GMT
Think they gave him a chance after the Chinese rumours,bagged a new contract but I think west ham fans now arent that arsed about him.
Probably best if he goes
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Post by Northy on Jun 4, 2019 12:49:51 GMT
As others have said the wedge is unlikely to tempt Arnie and his brother. But looked at purely on footballing terms...Conte's Inter in the Champs League v A West Ham team going nowhere in the prem and Milan v the cesspit that is East London would be a no brainer for me. I'm sure he doesn't live in East London
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Post by Northy on Jun 4, 2019 12:50:45 GMT
He should be quite a linguist by the time his career ends! He was at Inter before going to Germany wasn't he?
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Post by nott1 on Jun 4, 2019 12:54:07 GMT
He should be quite a linguist by the time his career ends! He was at Inter before going to Germany wasn't he? Briefly.
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