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Post by redstriper on Mar 27, 2019 9:12:40 GMT
linkI'm old school, but I seriously object to all the fun and choice being squeezed out of life by bureaucrats who want to dictate to mature adults how they should behave. Always done in the name of safety, just because someone idiot drives recklessly and there are a few deaths we all have to suffer. It's a race to the bottom. We have the safest roads in Europe, so I hope that post Brexit this kind of nonsense is the first thing to go.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 9:19:19 GMT
No point in protesting the shit anymore. Its a warped, bubble wrapped world we are living in.
Best just paint your hair bright blue and go with it
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Post by pearo on Mar 27, 2019 9:20:46 GMT
It won’t concern the Remainers, thousands of them travel by coach
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Post by redstriper on Mar 27, 2019 9:31:28 GMT
No point in protesting the shit anymore. Its a warped, bubble wrapped world we are living in. Best just paint your hair bright blue and go with it Fuck em. I'm going to buy an XKR and stick two fingers up.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Mar 27, 2019 10:25:23 GMT
More fun spoiling from a bunch of suited gimps that get to work by mobility scooter.
Why not just ban us from leaving our houses altogether?
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Mar 27, 2019 10:40:41 GMT
Dangerous as fuck.
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Post by felonious on Mar 27, 2019 10:44:19 GMT
The AA are not fans.
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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 27, 2019 11:06:02 GMT
I have always wondered why all cars for this country are not limited to 70mph when that is the maximum speed you are allowed to drive.
I don’t see how any law abiding citizen can possibly be against this, unless they feel speed limits are too low.
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Post by henry on Mar 27, 2019 11:15:28 GMT
So Aston Martin, porche, and all those other high powered cars are going to be restricted to 70mph. That’s going to go down well. Why the fuck do people want to be a part of this fucking monster.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 11:21:55 GMT
Time to hand my licence in I think.
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Post by auntiegeorge on Mar 27, 2019 11:40:02 GMT
What this will lead to is huge moving traffic jams all over the country. Can you imagine two or three lanes of the M6 clogged up with thousands of drivers all doing 70mph? The sales rep in his Mondeo wants to pass a few cars but can't because he is restricted to 70mph and everyone else is doing 70mph. It's one long moving jam from Rugby to Gretna Green.
It's just more EU lunacy that cannot be permitted. It's the thin end of the wedge.
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Post by yeokel on Mar 27, 2019 11:58:54 GMT
I have always wondered why all cars for this country are not limited to 70mph when that is the maximum speed you are allowed to drive. I don’t see how any law abiding citizen can possibly be against this, unless they feel speed limits are too low. I find myself half agreeing with you Oggy in as much as it has always been a bit of a puzzle why vehicles are not restricted to the maximum speed allowed. That a speed limit first introduced in 1965 is still suitable for today’s motorists is, however, another matter. Cars are obviously so much safer (for the occupants) than they were in the 60s, tyres and road surfaces are so much grippier, automatic safety aids are increasingly appearing in new cars and, dare I say it, our ability to cope with fast moving traffic and changing conditions is much better than it was over 50 years ago. There are still ‘dick head drivers’ but is a dick head any more safe at 70mph than at any other speed? Not really. Dick head is as dick head is. We have one of the slowest ‘maximum speed limits’ within the Europe and, given all the improvements made, it is about time this was raised to 80mph, certainly in fair weather (I like the French system of 130Kph in good weather & 110Kph in poor weather). But that then moves the debate to whether the vehicles should have a restrictor governing them to 80Mph max’. Personally, I think they probably should. Especially BMWs & Audis which should probably be forced to remain at 70mph regardless.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 12:17:18 GMT
How is this rule going to apply in Germany where many sections of the autobahns have no speed limits ? Or is there going to be a special dispensation for the Germans ?
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Post by auntiegeorge on Mar 27, 2019 12:23:43 GMT
Have a word with yourself yeokel. You can't discriminate amongst brands of cars. I've been driving for 37 years accident free so why should my 2019 Audi A4 Avant be limited to 70mph and a kid in a 1999 Ford Fiesta who's been driving for 2 years have the luxury of driving at 80mph.
You know really don't you that this whole proposition is an utter farce...
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Post by yeokel on Mar 27, 2019 12:45:35 GMT
Have a word with yourself yeokel. You can't discriminate amongst brands of cars. I've been driving for 37 years accident free so why should my 2019 Audi A4 Avant be limited to 70mph and a kid in a 1999 Ford Fiesta who's been driving for 2 years have the luxury of driving at 80mph. You know really don't you that this whole proposition is an utter farce... Sorry, I forgot the smilie I think it probably is “an utter farce” although I was mainly responding to Oggy’s point that if there is actually a national speed limit which applies to most of us ordinary drivers, why should a vehicle have the capability of being able to go faster than it. The legal limit is the legal limit, isn’t it? As a serious point, I do think it would be fairly easy to make a case for mechanically restricting all vehicles to, say, 99mph though. Nobody needs to travel quicker than that on today’s roads particularly with our congestion problems.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Mar 27, 2019 12:53:26 GMT
Another thing for the Gammonati like Nick Ferrari to get angry about. If it saves lives then what's the problem?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 13:52:26 GMT
Another thing for the Gammonati like Nick Ferrari to get angry about. If it saves lives then what's the problem? Armed curfew for us all at night would solve a safety problem but, doesnt mean we want to live that way
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 13:53:46 GMT
Car sales would inevitably go down, causing another industry to go to the wall. Idiots. By the way, I try to drive within the present speed limits, as I feel I have more sense nowadays.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Mar 27, 2019 14:19:53 GMT
What this will lead to is huge moving traffic jams all over the country. Can you imagine two or three lanes of the M6 clogged up with thousands of drivers all doing 70mph? The sales rep in his Mondeo wants to pass a few cars but can't because he is restricted to 70mph and everyone else is doing 70mph. It's one long moving jam from Rugby to Gretna Green. It's just more EU lunacy that cannot be permitted. It's the thin end of the wedge. If the Sales rep is doing 70mph, and he overtakes someone else who is also doing 70mph then he's got bigger issues than a traffic jam. There's a high chances he's broken every rule of physics.
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Post by yeokel on Mar 27, 2019 15:01:29 GMT
What this will lead to is huge moving traffic jams all over the country. Can you imagine two or three lanes of the M6 clogged up with thousands of drivers all doing 70mph? The sales rep in his Mondeo wants to pass a few cars but can't because he is restricted to 70mph and everyone else is doing 70mph. It's one long moving jam from Rugby to Gretna Green. It's just more EU lunacy that cannot be permitted. It's the thin end of the wedge. If the Sales rep is doing 70mph, and he overtakes someone else who is also doing 70mph then he's got bigger issues than a traffic jam. There's a high chances he's broken every rule of physics. That, or his speedo is wrong!
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Mar 27, 2019 15:20:18 GMT
As per usual the decent law-abiding drivers will have restrictions placed on them whilst irresponsible dickheads will just ignore them.
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Post by yeokel on Mar 27, 2019 15:32:15 GMT
As per usual the decent law-abiding drivers will have restrictions placed on them whilst irresponsible dickheads will just ignore them. Surely it is the other way round? The decent law abiding motorist will continue to be a law abiding motorist. The dickhead will be forced in to being a law abiding motorist by technology once they have been able to buy themselves a reasonably modern vehicle.
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Post by fannydyer on Mar 27, 2019 17:00:47 GMT
I have always wondered why all cars for this country are not limited to 70mph when that is the maximum speed you are allowed to drive. I don’t see how any law abiding citizen can possibly be against this, unless they feel speed limits are too low. I find myself half agreeing with you Oggy in as much as it has always been a bit of a puzzle why vehicles are not restricted to the maximum speed allowed. That a speed limit first introduced in 1965 is still suitable for today’s motorists is, however, another matter. Cars are obviously so much safer (for the occupants) than they were in the 60s, tyres and road surfaces are so much grippier, automatic safety aids are increasingly appearing in new cars and, dare I say it, our ability to cope with fast moving traffic and changing conditions is much better than it was over 50 years ago. There are still ‘dick head drivers’ but is a dick head any more safe at 70mph than at any other speed? Not really. Dick head is as dick head is. We have one of the slowest ‘maximum speed limits’ within the Europe and, given all the improvements made, it is about time this was raised to 80mph, certainly in fair weather (I like the French system of 130Kph in good weather & 110Kph in poor weather). But that then moves the debate to whether the vehicles should have a restrictor governing them to 80Mph max’. Personally, I think they probably should. Especially BMWs & Audis which should probably be forced to remain at 70mph regardless. I remember drivin' a Fiesta xr2 in the bloody Cilla Black 80s. Tankin' it raand the bleedin' streets o' London Taaan. I'd Lord Mayor that basin Of gravy was limited ter only drivin' over the speed limit!
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Post by salopstick on Mar 27, 2019 17:19:16 GMT
By the time this gets implemented and data comes through to see if it worked most people will be queuing up at IKEA to charge their car
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Post by redstriper on Mar 27, 2019 17:21:42 GMT
Another thing for the Gammonati like Nick Ferrari to get angry about. If it saves lives then what's the problem? Why not go the whole hog then, regress to the start of the 19th century and make each car be preceded by a bloke with a flag. Probably save a life or two.... sigh...
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Post by fannydyer on Mar 27, 2019 17:27:30 GMT
Another thing for the Gammonati like Nick Ferrari to get angry about. If it saves lives then what's the problem? Because it takes the farckin' fun aahhht o' life, China plate!
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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 27, 2019 17:27:43 GMT
I have always wondered why all cars for this country are not limited to 70mph when that is the maximum speed you are allowed to drive. I don’t see how any law abiding citizen can possibly be against this, unless they feel speed limits are too low. I find myself half agreeing with you Oggy in as much as it has always been a bit of a puzzle why vehicles are not restricted to the maximum speed allowed. That a speed limit first introduced in 1965 is still suitable for today’s motorists is, however, another matter. Cars are obviously so much safer (for the occupants) than they were in the 60s, tyres and road surfaces are so much grippier, automatic safety aids are increasingly appearing in new cars and, dare I say it, our ability to cope with fast moving traffic and changing conditions is much better than it was over 50 years ago. There are still ‘dick head drivers’ but is a dick head any more safe at 70mph than at any other speed? Not really. Dick head is as dick head is. We have one of the slowest ‘maximum speed limits’ within the Europe and, given all the improvements made, it is about time this was raised to 80mph, certainly in fair weather (I like the French system of 130Kph in good weather & 110Kph in poor weather). But that then moves the debate to whether the vehicles should have a restrictor governing them to 80Mph max’. Personally, I think they probably should. Especially BMWs & Audis which should probably be forced to remain at 70mph regardless. I agree. I think people on motorways are not the problem as much as people doing 40 in a 20 zone at school drop off time for example. I think BMWs are restricted....but to 156mph or something ridiculous!
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Mar 27, 2019 17:32:48 GMT
I have always wondered why all cars for this country are not limited to 70mph when that is the maximum speed you are allowed to drive. I don’t see how any law abiding citizen can possibly be against this, unless they feel speed limits are too low. Oh here we go again, how did I know you'd be here? Whenever there is a boot that needs licking, an authoritarian to need validating, a low to be stooping to, The Ogster will be there. Always.
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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 27, 2019 18:06:09 GMT
I have always wondered why all cars for this country are not limited to 70mph when that is the maximum speed you are allowed to drive. I don’t see how any law abiding citizen can possibly be against this, unless they feel speed limits are too low. Oh here we go again, how did I know you'd be here? Whenever there is a boot that needs licking, an authoritarian to need validating, a low to be stooping to, The Ogster will be there. Always. Brilliant, so you can’t argue against what i have said with any nuance or logic so instead you try insulting me. Or are you one of those dicks who drives at 40 outside schools and puts the lives of children at risk?
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Mar 27, 2019 18:15:28 GMT
Oh here we go again, how did I know you'd be here? Whenever there is a boot that needs licking, an authoritarian to need validating, a low to be stooping to, The Ogster will be there. Always. Brilliant, so you can’t argue against what i have said with any nuance or logic so instead you try insulting me. Or are you one of those dicks who drives at 40 outside schools and puts the lives of children at risk? I am perfectly capable of arguing my points with both nuance and logic, I just preferred to insult you. Whether or not you "need" something is irrelevant, "wanting" something is a perfectly good reason to own anything, including any vehicle that is capable of driving over any legal limit. Allowing ownership of possessions based on one's need for such items is not only grossly contrary to any notion of freedom and liberty of markets or society as a whole, it also gets us into very hazy territory about who gets to act as arbiter over who is allowed to own anything. Edit- And no, my licence is full and clean and has been for the 13 years I've had it.
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