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Mar 14, 2019 9:29:52 GMT
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Post by werrington on Mar 14, 2019 9:29:52 GMT
Looks like Afobe is going to miss the rest of the season ( madness to rush him back ), Vokes out ( how long? ), Berahino ( least said ) and couple those with the crazy decision to loan Campbell and we’ve now got problems with only Diouf available
Who plays?
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Mar 14, 2019 9:35:20 GMT
Post by FullerMagic on Mar 14, 2019 9:35:20 GMT
Vokes if fit. Doesn't sound like he's far off.
Until then, Diouf.
Bojan can't lead the line. And none of the U23/U18 strikers are really that type, or ready, are they?
I think the Campbell loan decision was correct. He's really raw, and needs some real experience lower down.
Interesting if Afobe is done for the season. Has he done enough to convince Jones he can be part of a successful front 2 next season?
Not sure - but if he hasn't, hard to see who'd buy him given his deal?
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Post by somersetstokie on Mar 14, 2019 9:49:40 GMT
Probably be Stoke's new utility man, Ashley Williams.
If he fails to score at worst, his performance could be deemed on a par with any offerings from the other players tried up front this year.
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Mar 14, 2019 9:50:23 GMT
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Post by gingerninja on Mar 14, 2019 9:50:23 GMT
If Vokes gets crocked again it really will be bleak until the seasons end!!!. That said he won't be match fit sharp for a while. I am afraid there's going to be more bad days before the seasons end.
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Mar 14, 2019 9:50:43 GMT
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Post by werrington on Mar 14, 2019 9:50:43 GMT
Vokes if fit. Doesn't sound like he's far off. Until then, Diouf. Bojan can't lead the line. And none of the U23/U18 strikers are really that type, or ready, are they? I think the Campbell loan decision was correct. He's really raw, and needs some real experience lower down. Interesting if Afobe is done for the season. Has he done enough to convince Jones he can be part of a successful front 2 next season? Not sure - but if he hasn't, hard to see who'd buy him given his deal? Only 6 weeks left of the season FM and it looked a bad hamstring as he pulled up so doubt we’ll see Afobe this season Vokes was only taken off as a precaution 3 weeks ago apparently but has not made a squad since Have to disagree in regards Campbell as given how our season was over weeks ago and his impressive showing v Leeds he could and should of been getting match fit here
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Post by somersetstokie on Mar 14, 2019 9:54:08 GMT
Vokes if fit. Doesn't sound like he's far off. Until then, Diouf. Bojan can't lead the line. And none of the U23/U18 strikers are really that type, or ready, are they? I think the Campbell loan decision was correct. He's really raw, and needs some real experience lower down. Interesting if Afobe is done for the season. Has he done enough to convince Jones he can be part of a successful front 2 next season? Not sure - but if he hasn't, hard to see who'd buy him given his deal? Only 6 weeks left of the season FM and it looked a bad hamstring as he pulled up so doubt we’ll see Afobe this season Vokes was only taken off as a precaution 3 weeks ago apparently but has not made a squad since Have to disagree in regards Campbell as given how our season was over weeks ago and his impressive showing v Leeds he could and should of been getting match fit here How can you say our season is over when we are battling so hard for 16th place.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 9:57:04 GMT
Play Diouf.
He’s not great, but then none of them are.....
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 14, 2019 10:00:13 GMT
Vokes if fit. Doesn't sound like he's far off. Until then, Diouf. Bojan can't lead the line. And none of the U23/U18 strikers are really that type, or ready, are they? I think the Campbell loan decision was correct. He's really raw, and needs some real experience lower down. Interesting if Afobe is done for the season. Has he done enough to convince Jones he can be part of a successful front 2 next season? Not sure - but if he hasn't, hard to see who'd buy him given his deal? Only 6 weeks left of the season FM and it looked a bad hamstring as he pulled up so doubt we’ll see Afobe this season Vokes was only taken off as a precaution 3 weeks ago apparently but has not made a squad since Have to disagree in regards Campbell as given how our season was over weeks ago and his impressive showing v Leeds he could and should of been getting match fit here As it's worked out, Campbell would probably be getting minutes of some kind, even in this revised system we've been going with. But hard to predict Afobe and Vokes would both be out of action. In the normal course of events, it would have been hard to see him getting a real look-in. I think really big game time in League One was the right call for him at 19 though. It's still unclear if he's going to be any kind of answer for us going forward but I think a proper half season in the lower leagues is the right testing ground for him and gives him the best chance of developing. If that's the last we see of Afobe until August, hard to know what kind of impression he's made on Jones. It's hardly been spectacular, has it? You do wonder where that leaves the planning process for next season.
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Mar 14, 2019 10:00:56 GMT
Post by fca47 on Mar 14, 2019 10:00:56 GMT
I'd rather Campbell was learning how we want him to play , rather than how Shrewsbury play. Looking a really bad decision to let him out on loan. Also why play Fletcher rather than someone like Sorensen, when he won't be here next season. All the ones going out at the end of the season should at least be benched for the remainder,
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Mar 14, 2019 10:05:50 GMT
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Post by werrington on Mar 14, 2019 10:05:50 GMT
Play Diouf. He’s not great, but then none of them are..... That’s my point mate, he’s the only one fit and available out of the 5 we have
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Mar 14, 2019 10:06:17 GMT
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Post by werrington on Mar 14, 2019 10:06:17 GMT
I'd rather Campbell was learning how we want him to play , rather than how Shrewsbury play. Looking a really bad decision to let him out on loan. Also why play Fletcher rather than someone like Sorensen, when he won't be here next season. All the ones going out at the end of the season should at least be benched for the remainder, That’s an excellent point in regards Sorensen
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 14, 2019 10:08:06 GMT
I'd rather Campbell was learning how we want him to play , rather than how Shrewsbury play. Looking a really bad decision to let him out on loan. Also why play Fletcher rather than someone like Sorensen, when he won't be here next season. All the ones going out at the end of the season should at least be benched for the remainder, We're not actually playing how we presumably will be playing from August onwards though, are we? Assuming the diamond will be out from pre-season onwards with 5 or 6 new players in the XI, this all seems like a bit of a phoney war. So it's unclear what we're learning about McClean and Ince, for instance, when their roles will be gone It could just be that Sorensen is nowhere near the required standard?
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Mar 14, 2019 10:09:10 GMT
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Post by Gods on Mar 14, 2019 10:09:10 GMT
What is the nature of the Afobe injury? I didn't realise he was out for the count.
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Mar 14, 2019 10:09:34 GMT
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Post by werrington on Mar 14, 2019 10:09:34 GMT
Only 6 weeks left of the season FM and it looked a bad hamstring as he pulled up so doubt we’ll see Afobe this season Vokes was only taken off as a precaution 3 weeks ago apparently but has not made a squad since Have to disagree in regards Campbell as given how our season was over weeks ago and his impressive showing v Leeds he could and should of been getting match fit here As it's worked out, Campbell would probably be getting minutes of some kind, even in this revised system we've been going with. But hard to predict Afobe and Vokes would both be out of action. In the normal course of events, it would have been hard to see him getting a real look-in. I think really big game time in League One was the right call for him at 19 though. It's still unclear if he's going to be any kind of answer for us going forward but I think a proper half season in the lower leagues is the right testing ground for him and gives him the best chance of developing. If that's the last we see of Afobe until August, hard to know what kind of impression he's made on Jones. It's hardly been spectacular, has it? You do wonder where that leaves the planning process for next season. Diouf and Berahino will be gone so that leaves just vokes, Afobe and Campbell available so he’ll definitely needs another 1/2 forwards but that’s long term mate This rest of this season is a different ball game
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Mar 14, 2019 10:11:16 GMT
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Post by werrington on Mar 14, 2019 10:11:16 GMT
What is the nature of the Afobe injury? I didn't realise he was out for the count. Pulled his hamstring chasing a ball in the channel, given there’s only 6 weeks left I’d doubt we’ll see him again this season
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Mar 14, 2019 10:12:39 GMT
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Post by sheds1862 on Mar 14, 2019 10:12:39 GMT
I'll hold my hands up and say I know little of Sorensen having not been that Checkatrade thing or seen the under 23's.
He is highly spoken of on here.
It would be some meteoric rise for him to be in contention in August without game time at this level rather than a pre-season amble in Austria or Burton
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Mar 14, 2019 10:12:44 GMT
Shawcross!!!
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Mar 14, 2019 10:13:06 GMT
Post by FullerMagic on Mar 14, 2019 10:13:06 GMT
As it's worked out, Campbell would probably be getting minutes of some kind, even in this revised system we've been going with. But hard to predict Afobe and Vokes would both be out of action. In the normal course of events, it would have been hard to see him getting a real look-in. I think really big game time in League One was the right call for him at 19 though. It's still unclear if he's going to be any kind of answer for us going forward but I think a proper half season in the lower leagues is the right testing ground for him and gives him the best chance of developing. If that's the last we see of Afobe until August, hard to know what kind of impression he's made on Jones. It's hardly been spectacular, has it? You do wonder where that leaves the planning process for next season. Diouf and Berahino will be gone so that leaves just vokes, Afobe and Campbell available so he’ll definitely needs another 1/2 forwards but that’s long term mate This rest of this season is a different ball game Agree - but when the Campbell decision was made, Berahino too was a potentially salvageable, expensive asset that he had to fully assess? And even Diouf was a bloke who wasn't fully fit with a decent top-level record who could have offered something and who needed to be looked at In hindsight, Campbell would be good to have here. But, as of deadline day, I think it made sense to let him go and get some real minutes in his legs at Shrewsbury to speed up his development.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 10:13:59 GMT
Play Diouf. He’s not great, but then none of them are..... That’s my point mate, he’s the only one fit and available out of the 5 we have To be honest mate I'm at the stage where I'd be cool with the tea lady playing, the sooner this Godforsaken season is over and we can rebuild the better....
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Post by StokieBoy31 on Mar 14, 2019 10:15:06 GMT
Afobe will be back after the international break, don’t worry.
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Mar 14, 2019 10:16:43 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 10:16:43 GMT
Afobe will be back after the international break, don’t worry. Deep joy.....
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 14, 2019 10:24:39 GMT
Looks like Afobe is going to miss the rest of the season ( madness to rush him back ), Vokes out ( how long? ), Berahino ( least said ) and couple those with the crazy decision to loan Campbell and we’ve now got problems with only Diouf available Who plays? On the basis that neither Diouf nor Afobe win any headers, nor do they hold the ball up well, nor do they run in behind effectively, just play Bojan up front. At least he can control a ball, pass it and shoot. It would be nice, even if only for a short time, to actually be able watch a footballer play football instead of sitting through the steaming pile of absolute horseshit that this lot seem to class as football.
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Mar 14, 2019 10:24:43 GMT
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Post by werrington on Mar 14, 2019 10:24:43 GMT
Afobe will be back after the international break, don’t worry. Given hamstring tweaks take a minimum of 4 weeks then there’s no chance as that last night was a pull not a tweak He went straight to the floor
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Mar 14, 2019 10:25:19 GMT
Post by somersetstokie on Mar 14, 2019 10:25:19 GMT
A lot of what has gone on this season was unlikely, until it actually happened.
So cue a new rebuilt, reformed, repentant, remotivated, all action SAIDO BERAHINO!
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Mar 14, 2019 10:28:58 GMT
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Post by werrington on Mar 14, 2019 10:28:58 GMT
Looks like Afobe is going to miss the rest of the season ( madness to rush him back ), Vokes out ( how long? ), Berahino ( least said ) and couple those with the crazy decision to loan Campbell and we’ve now got problems with only Diouf available Who plays? On the basis that neither Diouf nor Afobe win any headers, nor do they hold the ball up well, nor do they run in behind effectively, just play Bojan up front. At least he can control a ball, pass it and shoot. It would be nice, even if only for a short time, to actually be able watch a footballer play football instead of sitting through the steaming pile of absolute horseshit that this lot seem to class as football. The Bojan thing is criminal mate and I’d play him every game Sadly it’s best we just don’t bother anymore as it’s not just Jones it’s thread after thread on here slaughtering him given his usual 60 mins of action We were discussing on the way home last night and it’s like when Pulis wouldn’t play Fuller alongside Crouch as he didn’t want it to succeed as he wanted him gone and it’s the same scenario with Bojan
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 14, 2019 10:32:55 GMT
On the basis that neither Diouf nor Afobe win any headers, nor do they hold the ball up well, nor do they run in behind effectively, just play Bojan up front. At least he can control a ball, pass it and shoot. It would be nice, even if only for a short time, to actually be able watch a footballer play football instead of sitting through the steaming pile of absolute horseshit that this lot seem to class as football. The Bojan thing is criminal mate and I’d play him every game Sadly it’s best we just don’t bother anymore as it’s not just Jones it’s thread after thread on here slaughtering him given his usual 60 mins of action We were discussing on the way home last night and it’s like when Pulis wouldn’t play Fuller alongside Crouch as he didn’t want it to succeed and it’s the same scenario with Bojan It's frightening really isn't it? If it wasn't so sad it would actually be quite hilarious. We play dreadfully, the crowd chant for Bojan, the manager brings on Fletcher! You really couldn't make this shit up. I stayed on at the end simply to witness the ridiculous act of a manager entering the pitch and chest thumping another shitty 0-0 draw where we were indebted to our goalkeeper for the point we came away with. As the manager lapped up the applause, I abused the mad bastard in the same way I did Steve Cotterill post a game at Bury many years ago. Given the shit we call football, seeing Bojan sat on his arse is absolutely soul destroying. God knows what he must be thinking.
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Mar 14, 2019 10:36:28 GMT
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Post by werrington on Mar 14, 2019 10:36:28 GMT
The Bojan thing is criminal mate and I’d play him every game Sadly it’s best we just don’t bother anymore as it’s not just Jones it’s thread after thread on here slaughtering him given his usual 60 mins of action We were discussing on the way home last night and it’s like when Pulis wouldn’t play Fuller alongside Crouch as he didn’t want it to succeed and it’s the same scenario with Bojan It's frightening really isn't it? If it wasn't so sad it would actually be quite hilarious. We play dreadfully, the crowd chant for Bojan, the manager brings on Fletcher! You really couldn't make this shit up. I stayed on at the end simply to witness the ridiculous act of a manager entering the pitch and chest thumping another shitty 0-0 draw where we were indebted to our goalkeeper for the point we came away with. As the manager lapped up the applause, I abused the mad bastard in the same way I did Steve Cotterill post a game at Bury many years ago. Given the shit we call football, seeing Bojan sat on his arse is absolutely soul destroying. God knows what he must be thinking. He may have no option but to play him and Diouf up top Saturday
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Mar 14, 2019 10:40:49 GMT
Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 14, 2019 10:40:49 GMT
It's frightening really isn't it? If it wasn't so sad it would actually be quite hilarious. We play dreadfully, the crowd chant for Bojan, the manager brings on Fletcher! You really couldn't make this shit up. I stayed on at the end simply to witness the ridiculous act of a manager entering the pitch and chest thumping another shitty 0-0 draw where we were indebted to our goalkeeper for the point we came away with. As the manager lapped up the applause, I abused the mad bastard in the same way I did Steve Cotterill post a game at Bury many years ago. Given the shit we call football, seeing Bojan sat on his arse is absolutely soul destroying. God knows what he must be thinking. He may have no option but to play him and Diouf up top Saturday Let's not forget that Mclean is an option up front!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 10:50:01 GMT
A lot of what has gone on this season was unlikely, until it actually happened. So cue a new rebuilt, reformed, repentant, remotivated, all action SAIDO BERAHINO! If it's a choice of Saido or Diouf it's a no brainer for me, despite all his personal flaws, it would have to be Saido. We look impotent with Diouf up top, I'd even rather see McClean up front than Mame.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Mar 14, 2019 10:52:51 GMT
I'll bring me boots.
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