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Post by GeneralFaye on Mar 14, 2019 8:37:47 GMT
The difference between Rowett and Jones is that Rowett would've hailed last night as a triumph. Our manager was on the pitch pumping his chest in celebration of another magnificent 0-0. Had rowett done that you'd have been lapping it up like an excited puppy and he'd probably still be here. This manager is as big a prick as rowett was. Hes just a different type of loon. He's trying to keep the fans on side, can't you see that? and he'll keep me on side until I see HIS team with HIS players.
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Post by MrFlirty on Mar 14, 2019 8:39:51 GMT
Its not easy having to pick a team out of the rubbish squad NJ has. We don't have a left back, we hardly have a striker left, we don't have any width. As for the subs, I saw Williams coming n so he could go back 3 which would allow our only width, Tom Edwards to get forward more often. Woods was hitting passes astray more often towards the end and it was inviting constant pressure on to us. Fletcher (I am not a huge fan) at least had composure on the ball and every pass found one of our players which stopped to constant pressure. The sub of Diouf was obviously forced on him. Derby were a young quick attacking team and I think with 30 minutes to go, NJ realised a point would be a good result.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 8:47:09 GMT
Our manager was on the pitch pumping his chest in celebration of another magnificent 0-0. Had rowett done that you'd have been lapping it up like an excited puppy and he'd probably still be here. This manager is as big a prick as rowett was. Hes just a different type of loon. He's trying to keep the fans on side, can't you see that? and he'll keep me on side until I see HIS team with HIS players. We’ve already got people calling the manager a prick, only on the oatcake.
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Post by foxysgloves on Mar 14, 2019 9:27:52 GMT
He's trying to keep the fans on side, can't you see that? and he'll keep me on side until I see HIS team with HIS players. We’ve already got people calling the manager a prick, only on the oatcake. Mentalists. Although to be fair I think it’s mainly done to garner a reaction. Which means by reacting we’re giving them what they want.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 9:29:42 GMT
We’ve already got people calling the manager a prick, only on the oatcake. Mentalists. Although to be fair I think it’s mainly done to garner a reaction. Which means by reacting we’re giving them what they want. That’s a very good point, I really need to stop reacting to some of the morons on here.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 9:32:33 GMT
Mentalists. Although to be fair I think it’s mainly done to garner a reaction. Which means by reacting we’re giving them what they want. That’s a very good point, I really need to stop reacting to some of the morons on here. Block me then...
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Post by baltipiesmuggler on Mar 14, 2019 9:33:30 GMT
We all do Nath.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 14, 2019 9:34:41 GMT
Our manager was on the pitch pumping his chest in celebration of another magnificent 0-0. Had rowett done that you'd have been lapping it up like an excited puppy and he'd probably still be here. This manager is as big a prick as rowett was. Hes just a different type of loon. He's trying to keep the fans on side, can't you see that? and he'll keep me on side until I see HIS team with HIS players. Of course I can see that. I love the mad bastard!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 9:50:02 GMT
That’s a very good point, I really need to stop reacting to some of the morons on here. Block me then... 😂😂
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 14, 2019 10:31:39 GMT
The difference between Rowett and Jones is that Rowett would've hailed last night as a triumph. Our manager was on the pitch pumping his chest in celebration of another magnificent 0-0. Had rowett done that you'd have been lapping it up like an excited puppy and he'd probably still be here. This manager is as big a prick as rowett was. Hes just a different type of loon. Behave Dave, I would’ve done no such thing and you have no basis whatsoever for saying that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 10:38:25 GMT
If he started Bojan, Verlinden etc and lost the game they'd be going ballistic. If if if...have you ever considered the possibility that one of them or the etc whoever they are might just win the game for him, for us, and your dog?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 10:40:34 GMT
Mentalists. Although to be fair I think it’s mainly done to garner a reaction. Which means by reacting we’re giving them what they want. That’s a very good point, I really need to stop reacting to some of the morons on here. Just remember you're one of them...
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Mar 14, 2019 10:41:48 GMT
I've got a good feeling about NJ. Think he is going to be a Stoke legend. You need to revise ‘legend’ I’m very excited to have a young and already successful manager who has much to prove. I think legend is reaching a bit though, although I still sincerely praise your positivity I am of course speculating about future events but from his demeaner I just get this feeling he is a man on a mission and I think he has something that once the Stoke fans get on board en mass then we will have a new focal point, a new hero. Part of the problem at Stoke is there is no real talisman or genial type character for us to get behind. The Fullers, Huths and Arnies of the last 10 years are long gone. Stoke fans need players/staff like this to ease us through the drudgery. So combined with a woeful 4 years and now without any focal point in the squad things have hit rock bottom. The fact NJ has come in and steadied the ship is in my opinion quite remarkable given the mess he inherited. And make no mistake how big a mess it is. My only fear is that the wholly inadequate transfer system could be NJ's undoing. Quite how the people upstairs have allowed a situation where we are without a single player that we could even think of describing as a talisman is quite ridiculous, especially given the resources at our disposal. Heads need to roll upstairs, the time has come so we can make sure NJ has every possible chance.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 10:45:52 GMT
That’s a very good point, I really need to stop reacting to some of the morons on here. Just remember you're one of them... Thank you x
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Mar 14, 2019 10:57:16 GMT
God forbid the board not back Jones in the summer, I feel like it'll tip him over the edge and he'll hang them out to dry.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 11:37:29 GMT
He couldn't have brought on such a player to play central midfield as we don't have one. Verlinden and Bojan can 'play' but not in that position. He can't bring on what he doesn't have. Could Allen not have been made to sit? Could we not have gone to a flatter midfield? Could he not have brought Woods off earlier brought someone other than Fletcher one? Does our defence really need so much extra support now they are, well, able to somewhat defend? Just my thoughts. I take the point but I do think he could be a bit more imaginative. To be honest I think Afobe coming off threw him as it did when Vokes went off the other week. I do not however understand why we have players like Bojan and Verlinden on the bench when we aren’t going to bring them on in a situation where we are struggling for creativity and we are not in a losing position. Possibly, but away at a better team in the last 10 mins i can see why not. Maybe it was the fact that we weren’t in a losing position. It was obvious that Derby have more at stake and would be pushing more, so perhaps just keep things solid is, on the balance, the more logical thing to do.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 14, 2019 12:38:00 GMT
Charlie speaks very highly of the manager in this article
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 14, 2019 12:50:31 GMT
I remember when Watford came to play us last season when Gracia took over and my observations at that time to a Watford fan at work was that they are the worst, most negative side that I had seen for many years. Score 0-0. Look at them now. They brought in some very good players at reasonable prices - and sold their top striker Richarleson to Everton. So there may be some similarities in the way that Jones approaches games and hopefully the transfer team get it right in the summer. Yeah in a way I see our perceived “negativity” at the moment as more of a good thing than a bad thing. It shows Jones is adaptable, because come on, we *know* NJ is not a negative manager - he was renowned for attacking teams in the lower leagues and Luton were among the highest-scoring teams in the country. This is a completely different scenario from Rowett, who has played turgid football and pissed off fans everywhere he’s been. To be honest one of my early concerns about Jones was that his treasured system would be too gung-ho for this division and our squad. Well he’s clearly seen that too, so for now he’s adapting and showing that he can also make a team more solid. As for last night, I deliberately stayed off here and I’m really quite shocked at the negativity about it looking at the various threads now. Sure we were a bit sloppy 1st half and offered little in the final third, but I think we look miles ahead of how we looked under Rowett in terms of shape, pressing and just grit. I don’t think there’s any shame in protecting a point away at Derby in the circumstances, although I thought we looked to counter reasonably well, it’s just the moves broke down further up the pitch. Don’t get me wrong, it’s far from exciting or inspiring at the moment but the green shoots of a recovery are clearly there. Give him time and we know he will build a team to attack and score goals, albeit with [insert obligatory derogatory remark about recruitment team here].
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 12:52:49 GMT
God forbid the board not back Jones in the summer, I feel like it'll tip him over the edge and he'll hang them out to dry. They won't do that. But the question facing Jones is the same one that Rowett faced last summer and Hughes and Pulis did every summer (lambert didn't want much so I'll leave him out): can he get what he wants, and in order to be able to register the ones he might look to get, can he shift the ones he doesn't want as much. Then the question he may find there will be an unhappy answer to is can he trust his old mate, Cartwright, to do the business for him, or will he make some other choices based on his contacts and less/not at all on Jones' list. Jones has already declared that he has faith in the scouting and transfer systems within the club. He might just come to regret that.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Mar 14, 2019 13:18:57 GMT
Charlie speaks very highly of the manager in this article Great news your in Charlie , left back required and we have a back 4 with cover and one midfield slot sorted and build out from there over to the “gruesome twosome “:to sort the rest .
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Post by ladyinred on Mar 14, 2019 13:32:35 GMT
Last night with Allen/Woods starting we were a very small team - there were no other sensible midfield options. Playing Bojan or Verlinden would've meant that we had 3 midgets on the pitch - physically leaving ourselves exposed. Once Afobe went off as well, even more physicality was lost. I know Ince is powder-puff, but still stronger and taller than Bojan/Verlinden.
I'm not sure there is much more that Jones could've done with that squad to add creativity, without becoming vulnerable
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Post by nutterpotter on Mar 14, 2019 14:23:41 GMT
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Post by nott1 on Mar 14, 2019 14:27:50 GMT
Well Bera won't turn up now!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 14:57:04 GMT
Well Bera won't turn up now! He's already an animal
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Mar 14, 2019 19:32:38 GMT
Ok... Butland - Bear Edwards - Sealion Shawcross - Spider Monkey Batth - Horse BMI - Lemur Allen - Chicken (Headless) Adam - Sloth Etebo - Cocker Spaniel Clucas - Iguana Ince - Pony (Show) Afobe - Wolf (Lone) McClean - Tasmanian Devil
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Post by stokeson on Mar 14, 2019 19:39:19 GMT
Ok... Butland - Bear Edwards - Sealion Shawcross - Spider Monkey Batth - Horse BMI - Lemur Allen - Chicken (Headless) Adam - Sloth Etebo - Cocker Spaniel Clucas - Iguana Ince - Pony (Show) Afobe - Wolf (Lone) McClean - Tasmanian Devil How dare you sir. Mc Clean would have to be an IRISH wolf hound.
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Post by rondogmcmuffin on Mar 14, 2019 21:58:08 GMT
Where do you find the time in your day to do anything but log on here and slate Jones? Where do YOU? It's taken me 13 hours to reply so I hope that answers your question. Thanks for ignoring mine.
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Post by fannydyer on Mar 14, 2019 22:22:39 GMT
I daan't fin' 'e's Jack Jones in wantin' us ter be better than that. For awll that it's sugar and spice ter 'ave a Billie Jean sheet, the chuffin' footie itself was Cherry Hogg Brad Pitt!
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Post by nott1 on Mar 15, 2019 8:26:57 GMT
It's taken me 13 hours to reply so I hope that answers your question. Thanks for ignoring mine. I'm retired!
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 15, 2019 10:54:58 GMT
Charlie speaks very highly of the manager in this article this is great to hear from Charlie and encouraging. I hope we can keep him in some capacity I feel like he could be a great asset. You can see his passion as he was subbed. If you are a manager you want to see that.
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