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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 22:17:53 GMT
Toothless in attack
We are so embarrassing. Given we only have a couple of attempts on target per game, can we score one against Reading or Sheffield Wednesday. We just don't have a striker! We look a real joke. Nathan has a bunch of crap to work with. Even so there looks no improvement since he's arrived.
It is mind boggling!
It's like a nightmare come true
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Mar 13, 2019 22:21:15 GMT
Toothless in attack We are so embarrassing. Given we only have a couple of attempts on target per game, can we score one against Reading or Sheffield Wednesday. We just don't have a striker! We look a real joke. Nathan has a bunch of crap to work with. Even so there looks no improvement since he's arrived. It is mind boggling! It's like a nightmare come true New transfer department/system and the poor guy has at least a fighting chance. Former low grade football agents don't fit the bill I am afraid. |
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Post by stoke60 on Mar 13, 2019 22:21:30 GMT
Relegation favourites for next season.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 22:30:05 GMT
Relegation favourites for next season. You will fit in well here. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 13, 2019 22:31:33 GMT
Toothless in attack We are so embarrassing. Given we only have a couple of attempts on target per game, can we score one against Reading or Sheffield Wednesday. We just don't have a striker! We look a real joke. Nathan has a bunch of crap to work with. Even so there looks no improvement since he's arrived. It is mind boggling! It's like a nightmare come true I don't think it's a striker problem, at least if you go off todays game, no striker has a chance with that midfield behind them. |
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Post by mickey4137 on Mar 13, 2019 22:32:41 GMT
Toothless in attack We are so embarrassing. Given we only have a couple of attempts on target per game, can we score one against Reading or Sheffield Wednesday. We just don't have a striker! We look a real joke. Nathan has a bunch of crap to work with. Even so there looks no improvement since he's arrived. It is mind boggling! It's like a nightmare come true I don't think it's a striker problem, at least if you go off todays game, no striker has a chance with that midfield behind them. Spot on. Messi couldn't play in this team. |
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Post by Fred Ferret on Mar 13, 2019 22:33:34 GMT
Wrist slashers been let out tonight?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 22:34:26 GMT
We've stopped the decline that was happening under Rowett at the end and tonight we looked a solid side, who still had a couple of chances to win it.
I'm not happy with this as a finished article, but there is definite improvement. Especially considering that we played most of the game in a defensive formation, with a midfielder who can't move and two wingers who were anonymous, alongside having to sub on Diouf.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 22:43:51 GMT
We've stopped the decline that was happening under Rowett at the end and tonight we looked a solid side, who still had a couple of chances to win it. I'm not happy with this as a finished article, but there is definite improvement. Especially considering that we played most of the game in a defensive formation, with a midfielder who can't move and two wingers who were anonymous, alongside having to sub on Diouf. Where was the improvement? We didn't concede, solely down to world class Butland. Couple of chances to win it? Derby had shed loads of chances to win it. WE DIDN'T HAVE AN ATTEMPT ON TARGET! Not the finished article? It not the starting article even - it was soulless. And some of the performances just begged belief. Diouf should NEVER play again for us. He is hopeless and in addition he puts in no effort, he doesn't chase, his heart isn't with it. He needs to go. So do many others though. Sorry that was pathetic. If Derby had won 2-0 we would have had no complaints. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 22:48:42 GMT
We've stopped the decline that was happening under Rowett at the end and tonight we looked a solid side, who still had a couple of chances to win it. I'm not happy with this as a finished article, but there is definite improvement. Especially considering that we played most of the game in a defensive formation, with a midfielder who can't move and two wingers who were anonymous, alongside having to sub on Diouf. Where was the improvement? We didn't concede, solely down to world class Butland. Couple of chances to win it? Derby had shed loads of chances to win it. WE DIDN'T HAVE AN ATTEMPT ON TARGET! Not the finished article? It not the starting article even - it was soulless. And some of the performances just begged belief. Diouf should NEVER play again for us. He is hopeless and in addition he puts in no effort, he doesn't chase, his heart isn't with it. He needs to go. So do many others though. Sorry that was pathetic. If Derby had won 2-0 we would have had no complaints. I thought Derby were dross and deserved nothing. They were lucky not to concede from the McClean header, Butland made an exceptional save. That was about it. We are keeping clean sheets in difficult games and keeping points and confidence building. This will take a lot longer than 10-12 games to get there. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 22:55:34 GMT
Where was the improvement? We didn't concede, solely down to world class Butland. Couple of chances to win it? Derby had shed loads of chances to win it. WE DIDN'T HAVE AN ATTEMPT ON TARGET! Not the finished article? It not the starting article even - it was soulless. And some of the performances just begged belief. Diouf should NEVER play again for us. He is hopeless and in addition he puts in no effort, he doesn't chase, his heart isn't with it. He needs to go. So do many others though. Sorry that was pathetic. If Derby had won 2-0 we would have had no complaints. I thought Derby were dross and deserved nothing. They were lucky not to concede from the McClean header, Butland made an exceptional save. That was about it. We are keeping clean sheets in difficult games and keeping points and confidence building. This will take a lot longer than 10-12 games to get there. They had 19 shots, and 4 on target. They hit the post, they hit the bar, Jack made a brilliant save early on from out of the box, and another brilliant save from Wilson's header. So there are 4 obvious clear goal scoring chances. They bossed the game. We had one real half chance that McClean created with a brilliant header. I wish we were as dross as Derby were! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 23:00:03 GMT
I thought Derby were dross and deserved nothing. They were lucky not to concede from the McClean header, Butland made an exceptional save. That was about it. We are keeping clean sheets in difficult games and keeping points and confidence building. This will take a lot longer than 10-12 games to get there. They had 19 shots, and 4 on target. They hit the post, they hit the bar, Jack made a brilliant save early on from out of the box, and another brilliant save from Wilson's header. So there are 4 obvious clear goal scoring chances. They bossed the game. We had one real half chance that McClean created with a brilliant header. I wish we were as dross as Derby were! Yep, 3 of which were from long shots or rebounds and not down to us giving away a chance or them working a good chance. We'd have been unlucky to concede to those. The other was a free kick. Both sides were awful, but we gave it away loads first half (*cough* Adam and Batth) and made ourselves worse. It had 0-0 written all over it from the 20th minute onwards. |
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 13, 2019 23:07:29 GMT
Toothless in attack We are so embarrassing. Given we only have a couple of attempts on target per game, can we score one against Reading or Sheffield Wednesday. We just don't have a striker! We look a real joke. Nathan has a bunch of crap to work with. Even so there looks no improvement since he's arrived. It is mind boggling! It's like a nightmare come true I don't think it's a striker problem, at least if you go off todays game, no striker has a chance with that midfield behind them. Apart from the odd eccentric flourish from an ageing Adam.....zero creativity in midfield....has been our main problem for the last 2 years. Linekar or Shearer would have struggled to get more than 5 goals a season with our toothless midfield. |
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Post by blackpoolred on Mar 13, 2019 23:15:55 GMT
Toothless in attack We are so embarrassing. Given we only have a couple of attempts on target per game, can we score one against Reading or Sheffield Wednesday. We just don't have a striker! We look a real joke. Nathan has a bunch of crap to work with. Even so there looks no improvement since he's arrived. It is mind boggling! It's like a nightmare come true Still got a mass of deadwood to get rid of, a transfer team/manager/club that thought it was ok to let 2 defenders go while bringing only 1 in - in the last window, including letting our only left-back go - Reeks of the other Welsh man that decimated the club. Every man and his dog behind the ball to protect that weak ass defence. 200+ minutes, at this standard, since we last had an attempt on goal, very little of a spine to build on next year, a manager clearly out of his depth with his only rhetoric seemingly to keep us up, a win tonight could have seen us 7pts off the play-offs(but no attempt to do so). Still a club ran by Coates/backroom staff who have not got a clue - anybody challenging that is out(see Rowett). Rookie manager in charge with no experience in management and virtually none at this level. Keep him and the best we can hope for is that he turns out to be a decent prospect, but will need time to learn is trade - or we could end up in the bottom three this time next year, based on his appalling stats so far, but the clueless(Stoke fans/Coates) seem to like him and want to give him time( the same clueless ones that still slate Rowett - who did far better than NJ - go figure) - so worrying times and, yes, apprehensive about next year. |
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Post by clintonbaptiste on Mar 13, 2019 23:22:17 GMT
Wrist slashers been let out tonight? Well no footballers were let out |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 13, 2019 23:54:12 GMT
I thought Derby were dross and deserved nothing. They were lucky not to concede from the McClean header, Butland made an exceptional save. That was about it. We are keeping clean sheets in difficult games and keeping points and confidence building. This will take a lot longer than 10-12 games to get there. They had 19 shots, and 4 on target. They hit the post, they hit the bar, Jack made a brilliant save early on from out of the box, and another brilliant save from Wilson's header. So there are 4 obvious clear goal scoring chances. They bossed the game. We had one real half chance that McClean created with a brilliant header. I wish we were as dross as Derby were! 4 is pretty shit given they had 19 shots, and I'd say we probably had two in the game, McClean with the header and Batth (?) on the corner, it was like the QPR game all over again but without the player sent off and Derby willing to shoot from distance, they didn't exactly rip us apart in the final third (midfield is a different story). I'm not saying we were good but if the roles were reversed I'd be disappointed if we only managed 4 on target with one worthy of a mention. |
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Post by stokeson on Mar 13, 2019 23:57:09 GMT
Where was the improvement? We didn't concede, solely down to world class Butland. Couple of chances to win it? Derby had shed loads of chances to win it. WE DIDN'T HAVE AN ATTEMPT ON TARGET! Not the finished article? It not the starting article even - it was soulless. And some of the performances just begged belief. Diouf should NEVER play again for us. He is hopeless and in addition he puts in no effort, he doesn't chase, his heart isn't with it. He needs to go. So do many others though. Sorry that was pathetic. If Derby had won 2-0 we would have had no complaints. I thought Derby were dross and deserved nothing. They were lucky not to concede from the McClean header, Butland made an exceptional save. That was about it. We are keeping clean sheets in difficult games and keeping points and confidence building. This will take a lot longer than 10-12 games to get there. At the moment It will take 10-12 years ( but Jones will get there Im sure.) |
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Post by kustokie on Mar 14, 2019 0:17:15 GMT
We've stopped the decline that was happening under Rowett at the end and tonight we looked a solid side, who still had a couple of chances to win it. I'm not happy with this as a finished article, but there is definite improvement. Especially considering that we played most of the game in a defensive formation, with a midfielder who can't move and two wingers who were anonymous, alongside having to sub on Diouf. We are in a vicious cycle that has been going on for several seasons. Pulis was fired because our football was boring but at least the defence and spine were solid. Hughes brought in some exciting players but neglected the defence. Lambert replaced Hughes to try and save us from relegation because we were shipping goals for fun. He improved the defence but we stopped scoring or creating chances. We were relegated anyway and he was fired. Rowett tried to improve the scoring record, which worked to a point by bringing in Ince, McLean and Afobe but defensively we were terrible. So he was fired. Jones comes in and fixes the defense by signing Batth who has combined well with Shawcross. But the midfield still can’t create chances because the players we brought in are all Championship caliber, except Etebo. Vokes and Afobe will never score unless they get the service they need. It is so bad that we looking to Charlie Adam as the second coming. Jones is an honest, likeable chap who gives a good interview and tells it the way he sees it. But so was Lambert. tin hat maybe, but I can only tell it the way I see it. We are just not good enough. |
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Post by berahinosgoals on Mar 14, 2019 6:41:07 GMT
I've Total respect for people who pay to watch that on a weekly basis
Must have More money than sense aswell.
Not just the ticket prices, add in travel, beer & food and it comes into thousands a year. Bearing in mind we have been dross for nearly 4 years now... fair play. Rather you than me
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Post by citynickscfc on Mar 14, 2019 7:02:03 GMT
They had 19 shots, and 4 on target. They hit the post, they hit the bar, Jack made a brilliant save early on from out of the box, and another brilliant save from Wilson's header. So there are 4 obvious clear goal scoring chances. They bossed the game. We had one real half chance that McClean created with a brilliant header. I wish we were as dross as Derby were! 4 is pretty shit given they had 19 shots, and I'd say we probably had two in the game, McClean with the header and Batth (?) on the corner, it was like the QPR game all over again but without the player sent off and Derby willing to shoot from distance, they didn't exactly rip us apart in the final third (midfield is a different story). I'm not saying we were good but if the roles were reversed I'd be disappointed if we only managed 4 on target with one worthy of a mention. We had zero shots on target, again.... |
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Post by dingdongbell on Mar 14, 2019 7:12:23 GMT
Where was the improvement? We didn't concede, solely down to world class Butland. Couple of chances to win it? Derby had shed loads of chances to win it. WE DIDN'T HAVE AN ATTEMPT ON TARGET! Not the finished article? It not the starting article even - it was soulless. And some of the performances just begged belief. Diouf should NEVER play again for us. He is hopeless and in addition he puts in no effort, he doesn't chase, his heart isn't with it. He needs to go. So do many others though. Sorry that was pathetic. If Derby had won 2-0 we would have had no complaints. I thought Derby were dross and deserved nothing. They were lucky not to concede from the McClean header, Butland made an exceptional save. That was about it. We are keeping clean sheets in difficult games and keeping points and confidence building. This will take a lot longer than 10-12 games to get there. Maybe another £60 odd million “ might “ improve things , then you never know . Thought our midfield was dire tonight l, leaving an overworked defence to bravely grind out a point , beginning to agree with my son who thinks Joe Allen is the problem . |
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Post by nott1 on Mar 14, 2019 7:14:46 GMT
I don't think it's a striker problem, at least if you go off todays game, no striker has a chance with that midfield behind them. Apart from the odd eccentric flourish from an ageing Adam.....zero creativity in midfield....has been our main problem for the last 2 years. Linekar or Shearer would have struggled to get more than 5 goals a season with our toothless midfield. Meanwhile our ONLY creative player sits on the bench!  |
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Post by tony1234 on Mar 14, 2019 7:23:29 GMT
Toothless in attack We are so embarrassing. Given we only have a couple of attempts on target per game, can we score one against Reading or Sheffield Wednesday. We just don't have a striker! We look a real joke. Nathan has a bunch of crap to work with. Even so there looks no improvement since he's arrived. It is mind boggling! It's like a nightmare come true I don't think it's a striker problem, at least if you go off todays game, no striker has a chance with that midfield behind them. Agree - blessing in disguise this summer (or maybe not in disguise depending on your outlook):- We'll lose Fletcher ... (is "lose" the right word?? Anyhow, Allen nr cert to go - though perhaps now expecting more like 10m than 20m for him, which would create 5 or so v feasible destinations in the lower-mid PL. Adam - will be his last chance really for a swansong at Rangers. If everyone does the decent thing, he'll be off there. And Maclean doesn't fit. Can't imagine he is happy here. Another Forest bid may work this time, perhaps the swap with Osborn? Slight chance Clucas might cut losses too, hardly been a happy time. Coudl see someone bidding 3-4m based on past rep or being happy with a swap. Recognition will be that Williams can't play there, but we do need sometone to play the role he has been shoved into of late. And Sorrenson can't (yet or ever? Needs a year out in L1 to see). Bojan will probably go now. His "run of games" doesn't look like materialising. Despite the critical pivotal need for a #10 in the diamond. We lack agility/speed and overwhelmingly lack creativity. NJ's said as much. So looks like at least 2 and possibly 3 more MFs this summer as being key. Chance for NJ to stamp his authority - make or break. Until then its not fair to overly-judge. |
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Post by lostinafrenchbar on Mar 14, 2019 7:56:00 GMT
It's obvious enough that Afobe and Ince aren't up to the job of scoring and all both of them can do can get in the opposition's way around the penalty area, like a couple of cut price SJWs. So that's what he has them doing. It's not pretty but it grinds out a point a game, and it's given the chance for the team to become a team again...which they weren't under Rowett...and then he can work on improving our most obvious problem. Fingers crossed over Vokes and Verlinden.
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Post by felonious on Mar 14, 2019 8:45:03 GMT
It's difficult to judge on last night's game because Etebo and Clucas were missing through injury and madness and they would have given a different energy to the team. Vokes would have been up front as well if NJ had the choice.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 8:49:59 GMT
Apart from the odd eccentric flourish from an ageing Adam.....zero creativity in midfield....has been our main problem for the last 2 years. Linekar or Shearer would have struggled to get more than 5 goals a season with our toothless midfield. Meanwhile our ONLY creative player sits on the bench! The creative player who played the other week and created nothing. |
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Post by musik on Mar 14, 2019 8:55:47 GMT
The tactics for next season could be to get a draw in all away games and always win at home. It looks like it.
Naturally, this won't happen. No team will win every home game no matter how hard they try. And by mistake can't hold on to a draw away. You might even end up winning a couple away.
But in general, 20 wins out of 23 games at home and 20 draws out of 23 away games - it would give us 80 points.
Satisfied with that?:
It would be close to automatic promotion.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 9:06:07 GMT
The creative player who played the other week and created nothing. I bet you your first thought every morning is to scan the oatie to find EVERY one of my posts in order to make some stupid comment.........piss off. Like I said he created absolutely nothing last time he was given a chance. |
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Post by jarvinski on Mar 14, 2019 9:15:21 GMT
You’re right about Diouf, he is one of the biggest donkey ever to play for this club
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Post by ohbottom on Mar 14, 2019 9:17:27 GMT
Hope my nightmare doesn't come true, at least not the one with the weird Asian woman and the thing like a giant squid.
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