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Post by felonious on Mar 10, 2019 18:20:24 GMT
I was talking to an Everton fan I know a couple of weeks back and he said that there was a lot of grumbling about Pickford. He surprised me by saying that Everton should go for Butland.
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Post by leicspotter on Mar 10, 2019 20:26:43 GMT
Tom Heaton plays in the PL Sounds like he has had a'mare' today too
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Mar 10, 2019 22:23:27 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 23:21:12 GMT
Since the passing of Gordon does anyone else see an improvement in Jack? He looks more confident, his positioning is better, he's catching balls, coming for crosses? It has also coincided with our defence not looking like it will fall apart every 5 seconds. At the back especially they seem to be developing a confidence in one another.
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Mar 11, 2019 6:31:08 GMT
Jack still has the potential to be number 1 it's up to him. He's got it all but needs to show it, he's a monster and it's time to dominate his box. This is the biggest fault of all modern keepers,not just Jack, none of them command their 6 yard box, I have noticed that he does seem to be more keen to come of his line for crosses than was the norm for Jack.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 11, 2019 8:00:12 GMT
I think perhaps he’s let the WC go to his head.
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Post by franklin66 on Mar 11, 2019 10:08:06 GMT
Jack still has the potential to be number 1 it's up to him. He's got it all but needs to show it, he's a monster and it's time to dominate his box. This is the biggest fault of all modern keepers,not just Jack, none of them command their 6 yard box, I have noticed that he does seem to be more keen to come of his line for crosses than was the norm for Jack. That's true no of them claim crosses like the keepers of years gone by. To be fair not many catch anything nowadays which is my point if Jack does start to dominate and clear folk out he would be in a class of his own and could easily claim the England spot.
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Post by Veritas on Mar 11, 2019 15:12:06 GMT
This is the biggest fault of all modern keepers,not just Jack, none of them command their 6 yard box, I have noticed that he does seem to be more keen to come of his line for crosses than was the norm for Jack. That's true no of them claim crosses like the keepers of years gone by. To be fair not many catch anything nowadays which is my point if Jack does start to dominate and clear folk out he would be in a class of his own and could easily claim the England spot. A work colleague was talking to one of our junior keepers who said they were coached to stay on their line for corners and free kicks
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Post by franklin66 on Mar 11, 2019 15:35:03 GMT
That's true no of them claim crosses like the keepers of years gone by. To be fair not many catch anything nowadays which is my point if Jack does start to dominate and clear folk out he would be in a class of his own and could easily claim the England spot. A work colleague was talking to one of our junior keepers who said they were coached to stay on their line for corners and free kicks Well if that's true it's crap the 18yard box IS the keepers not the line all of it.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 11, 2019 15:48:28 GMT
A work colleague was talking to one of our junior keepers who said they were coached to stay on their line for corners and free kicks Well if that's true it's crap the 18yard box IS the keepers not the line all of it. I'm not saying I like the idea but there's got to be a reason for it. Perhaps the Opta Stats or whatever show that the keeper is statistically more likely to save from a corner if he stays on his line than if he comes flapping out into a crowded penalty area. I don't know. But if that conversation is true there must be some method in the madness. Quy is a highly rated goalkeeper coach.
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Post by greenhoff on Mar 11, 2019 16:05:57 GMT
That's true no of them claim crosses like the keepers of years gone by. To be fair not many catch anything nowadays which is my point if Jack does start to dominate and clear folk out he would be in a class of his own and could easily claim the England spot. A work colleague was talking to one of our junior keepers who said they were coached to stay on their line for corners and free kicks No theyre not. Not at all.
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Mar 11, 2019 16:14:50 GMT
A work colleague was talking to one of our junior keepers who said they were coached to stay on their line for corners and free kicks Well if that's true it's crap the 18yard box IS the keepers not the line all of it. I would rather my keeper came for everything a la Bruce grobelaar. At least the defence know where they stand!!!
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Post by franklin66 on Mar 11, 2019 16:56:37 GMT
Well if that's true it's crap the 18yard box IS the keepers not the line all of it. I would rather my keeper came for everything a la Bruce grobelaar. At least the defence know where they stand!!! Spot on my thoughts exactly first name that popped into my head.
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Post by mattador78 on Mar 11, 2019 17:01:56 GMT
The words of one of the greatest goalkeepers of all time Buffon on the subject of goalkeeping and I don’t disagree one bit and if Butland concentrates on what he says and turns out half as good the he could be one hell of a goalkeeper.
PGigi Buffon is quite tickled by the prospect of becoming extinct. “Let’s start by saying that soon there won’t be goalkeepers at all,” he suggests, uncorking a bellyful of laughter. “The way football is going right now, I may be one of the last!” We’re discussing how football has evolved in the long time – almost a quarter of a century – since he made his professional debut. Buffon was 17 years old when he announced himself to the world with a clean sheet in his first ever appearance for Parma, denying Milan and their pair of Ballon d’Or-winning strikers, Roberto Baggio and George Weah. Now 40, and still competing at the highest levels with Paris Saint-Germain, Buffon is uniquely positioned to assess how the goalkeeper’s role has transformed. He shares his views with FFT now. “Today there is this great – in my opinion, exaggerated – focus on how keepers play the ball with their feet; how they need to pass and move with their other team-mates,” he says. “I myself, ever since I was a kid, was an atypical goalkeeper. I often had this role of being a ‘libero’, playing with my feet a lot. At times, honestly, I did it in an excessive way. “Despite that, I maintain one thing: if you lose that true attention, that sincere focus on being a good goalkeeper – which means stopping shots, knowing how to come out for a high ball, understanding how you approach a low ball as you come off your line – then, for me, you’re being asked to totally go against your natural role
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 17:08:14 GMT
The words of one of the greatest goalkeepers of all time Buffon on the subject of goalkeeping and I don’t disagree one bit and if Butland concentrates on what he says and turns out half as good the he could be one hell of a goalkeeper. PGigi Buffon is quite tickled by the prospect of becoming extinct. “Let’s start by saying that soon there won’t be goalkeepers at all,” he suggests, uncorking a bellyful of laughter. “The way football is going right now, I may be one of the last!” We’re discussing how football has evolved in the long time – almost a quarter of a century – since he made his professional debut. Buffon was 17 years old when he announced himself to the world with a clean sheet in his first ever appearance for Parma, denying Milan and their pair of Ballon d’Or-winning strikers, Roberto Baggio and George Weah. Now 40, and still competing at the highest levels with Paris Saint-Germain, Buffon is uniquely positioned to assess how the goalkeeper’s role has transformed. He shares his views with FFT now. “Today there is this great – in my opinion, exaggerated – focus on how keepers play the ball with their feet; how they need to pass and move with their other team-mates,” he says. “I myself, ever since I was a kid, was an atypical goalkeeper. I often had this role of being a ‘libero’, playing with my feet a lot. At times, honestly, I did it in an excessive way. “Despite that, I maintain one thing: if you lose that true attention, that sincere focus on being a good goalkeeper – which means stopping shots, knowing how to come out for a high ball, understanding how you approach a low ball as you come off your line – then, for me, you’re being asked to totally go against your natural role All the good goalkeepers used to catch the ball wherever they could and throw it back out quickly and in doing so retain possession. All the focus on playing out from the back but most modern goal keepers are fans of punching rather than catching which is likely to lose you possession. Jack went through a spell of punching everything but now thankfully he seems to have stopped it.
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Mar 11, 2019 17:09:42 GMT
The words of one of the greatest goalkeepers of all time Buffon on the subject of goalkeeping and I don’t disagree one bit and if Butland concentrates on what he says and turns out half as good the he could be one hell of a goalkeeper. PGigi Buffon is quite tickled by the prospect of becoming extinct. “Let’s start by saying that soon there won’t be goalkeepers at all,” he suggests, uncorking a bellyful of laughter. “The way football is going right now, I may be one of the last!” We’re discussing how football has evolved in the long time – almost a quarter of a century – since he made his professional debut. Buffon was 17 years old when he announced himself to the world with a clean sheet in his first ever appearance for Parma, denying Milan and their pair of Ballon d’Or-winning strikers, Roberto Baggio and George Weah. Now 40, and still competing at the highest levels with Paris Saint-Germain, Buffon is uniquely positioned to assess how the goalkeeper’s role has transformed. He shares his views with FFT now. “Today there is this great – in my opinion, exaggerated – focus on how keepers play the ball with their feet; how they need to pass and move with their other team-mates,” he says. “I myself, ever since I was a kid, was an atypical goalkeeper. I often had this role of being a ‘libero’, playing with my feet a lot. At times, honestly, I did it in an excessive way. “Despite that, I maintain one thing: if you lose that true attention, that sincere focus on being a good goalkeeper – which means stopping shots, knowing how to come out for a high ball, understanding how you approach a low ball as you come off your line – then, for me, you’re being asked to totally go against your natural role This. Far far far too much emphasis is placed on keepers kicking. Pickford a prime example, picked as he is more comfortable with his feet. Doesn't matter he's fookin useless between the sticks
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Post by mrcoke on Mar 11, 2019 17:33:04 GMT
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Post by mattador78 on Mar 11, 2019 17:50:39 GMT
The words of one of the greatest goalkeepers of all time Buffon on the subject of goalkeeping and I don’t disagree one bit and if Butland concentrates on what he says and turns out half as good the he could be one hell of a goalkeeper. PGigi Buffon is quite tickled by the prospect of becoming extinct. “Let’s start by saying that soon there won’t be goalkeepers at all,” he suggests, uncorking a bellyful of laughter. “The way football is going right now, I may be one of the last!” We’re discussing how football has evolved in the long time – almost a quarter of a century – since he made his professional debut. Buffon was 17 years old when he announced himself to the world with a clean sheet in his first ever appearance for Parma, denying Milan and their pair of Ballon d’Or-winning strikers, Roberto Baggio and George Weah. Now 40, and still competing at the highest levels with Paris Saint-Germain, Buffon is uniquely positioned to assess how the goalkeeper’s role has transformed. He shares his views with FFT now. “Today there is this great – in my opinion, exaggerated – focus on how keepers play the ball with their feet; how they need to pass and move with their other team-mates,” he says. “I myself, ever since I was a kid, was an atypical goalkeeper. I often had this role of being a ‘libero’, playing with my feet a lot. At times, honestly, I did it in an excessive way. “Despite that, I maintain one thing: if you lose that true attention, that sincere focus on being a good goalkeeper – which means stopping shots, knowing how to come out for a high ball, understanding how you approach a low ball as you come off your line – then, for me, you’re being asked to totally go against your natural role All the good goalkeepers used to catch the ball wherever they could and throw it back out quickly and in doing so retain possession. All the focus on playing out from the back but most modern goal keepers are fans of punching rather than catching which is likely to lose you possession. Jack went through a spell of punching everything but now thankfully he seems to have stopped it. I know he gets a bit of a bad press at times but Barthez with his quick distribution was superb
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Post by franklin66 on Mar 11, 2019 20:01:46 GMT
All the good goalkeepers used to catch the ball wherever they could and throw it back out quickly and in doing so retain possession. All the focus on playing out from the back but most modern goal keepers are fans of punching rather than catching which is likely to lose you possession. Jack went through a spell of punching everything but now thankfully he seems to have stopped it. I know he gets a bit of a bad press at times but Barthez with his quick distribution was superb Watching Banksy at his funeral in his day he threw the ball out within seconds time after time. Keepers used to be untouchable and came for everything winning free kick after free kick when they failed.Foxy was small compared to modern keepers but commanded the box miles better. Its a dying art coming and catching a football today they even punch shots clear rather than catch, no longer goal keepers just shot stoppers now.
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Post by kentpotter on Mar 12, 2019 15:40:22 GMT
It was only a matter of time before his luck ran out and people started to see him for what he is... ...a bloke with little arms!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 16:02:01 GMT
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Post by swampySCFC on Mar 12, 2019 22:49:56 GMT
Sort of bloke that needs punching in his gob
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 14:50:02 GMT
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Post by Dave the Rave on Mar 14, 2019 21:05:02 GMT
From 2017. Anyone who ever thought he was decent is crackers. Has always looked a lower league keeper punching above his weight to me. Pickford is garbage. When your goal is being absolutely peppered every game you're bound to make a few good saves. The new Craig Gordon. Will go for stupid money then be found out.
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Post by fannydyer on Mar 14, 2019 22:29:07 GMT
Jack is Beechams Pill an absolutely bangin' keeper. Arguably the bloody Mae West that fair England can call on. 'is commaand of the chuffin' area is Robin Hood and 'e's a blindin' shot stoppah. Distribution remains a worry though.....
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Post by kelw on Mar 14, 2019 23:30:15 GMT
The words of one of the greatest goalkeepers of all time Buffon on the subject of goalkeeping and I don’t disagree one bit and if Butland concentrates on what he says and turns out half as good the he could be one hell of a goalkeeper. PGigi Buffon is quite tickled by the prospect of becoming extinct. “Let’s start by saying that soon there won’t be goalkeepers at all,” he suggests, uncorking a bellyful of laughter. “The way football is going right now, I may be one of the last!” We’re discussing how football has evolved in the long time – almost a quarter of a century – since he made his professional debut. Buffon was 17 years old when he announced himself to the world with a clean sheet in his first ever appearance for Parma, denying Milan and their pair of Ballon d’Or-winning strikers, Roberto Baggio and George Weah. Now 40, and still competing at the highest levels with Paris Saint-Germain, Buffon is uniquely positioned to assess how the goalkeeper’s role has transformed. He shares his views with FFT now. “Today there is this great – in my opinion, exaggerated – focus on how keepers play the ball with their feet; how they need to pass and move with their other team-mates,” he says. “I myself, ever since I was a kid, was an atypical goalkeeper. I often had this role of being a ‘libero’, playing with my feet a lot. At times, honestly, I did it in an excessive way. “Despite that, I maintain one thing: if you lose that true attention, that sincere focus on being a good goalkeeper – which means stopping shots, knowing how to come out for a high ball, understanding how you approach a low ball as you come off your line – then, for me, you’re being asked to totally go against your natural role All the good goalkeepers used to catch the ball wherever they could and throw it back out quickly and in doing so retain possession. All the focus on playing out from the back but most modern goal keepers are fans of punching rather than catching which is likely to lose you possession. Jack went through a spell of punching everything but now thankfully he seems to have stopped it. Keepers dropping crosses used to be very common-place. I understand now with the way the ball moves that keepers get rid and get distance on a swerving ball rather than catch it. Pickford's biggest problem is palming balls back into play rather than to safety. Been doing it since his Sunderland days and another example at Newcastle.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2019 1:33:00 GMT
I know he gets a bit of a bad press at times but Barthez with his quick distribution was superb Watching Banksy at his funeral in his day he threw the ball out within seconds time after time. Keepers used to be untouchable and came for everything winning free kick after free kick when they failed.Foxy was small compared to modern keepers but commanded the box miles better. Its a dying art coming and catching a football today they even punch shots clear rather than catch, no longer goal keepers just shot stoppers now. All show and no substance - welcome to 2019!
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Post by Bod on Mar 15, 2019 10:35:17 GMT
Pickford is an absolute fanny.
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Post by franklin66 on Mar 15, 2019 11:52:36 GMT
Watching Banksy at his funeral in his day he threw the ball out within seconds time after time. Keepers used to be untouchable and came for everything winning free kick after free kick when they failed.Foxy was small compared to modern keepers but commanded the box miles better. Its a dying art coming and catching a football today they even punch shots clear rather than catch, no longer goal keepers just shot stoppers now. All show and no substance - welcome to 2019! True.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 1, 2019 18:39:31 GMT
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