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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on May 9, 2019 21:45:06 GMT
If Joe Allen is the answer what the hell is the question Who is Nathan's own, personal, Jesus?
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Post by Bojan Mackey on May 9, 2019 21:45:22 GMT
Cash in immediately.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on May 9, 2019 21:46:15 GMT
If Joe Allen is the answer what the hell is the question Who is Nathan's own, personal, Jesus? I’m not sure, I think he’s just enjoying the silence at the moment.
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Post by wagsastokie on May 9, 2019 21:47:53 GMT
If Joe Allen is the answer what the hell is the question Who is Nathan's own, personal, Jesus? That’s fine by me as long as he’s not his first choice midfielder
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Post by miggo on May 9, 2019 22:04:26 GMT
That statement reads to me "someone make us an offer and he is yours"
Quite frankly Allen is the biggest problem of our midfield but he still maintains a decent reputation. Someone will take a punt on him likely one of the promoted clubs.
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 9, 2019 22:04:32 GMT
Got nothing against Joe but he needs to go. We could make some really good money on him. We could but let’s just stop and think about our record of extracting value for our best assets , more likely is we sell him for less than market value to a championship rival where he goes on to be their best player 😉 replacing him with a loan or free transfer who featured in the champions league final well he was on the 2005 finalists team bus , but has gone to suffer drug and drink problems caused by a serious injury I'd be happy if we got our money back on him tbh.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on May 9, 2019 22:35:54 GMT
He’s got Burnley absolutely written all over him.
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May 9, 2019 22:37:53 GMT
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 9, 2019 22:37:53 GMT
He’s got Burnley absolutely written all over him. Or Bournemouth. Definitely a B!
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 9, 2019 22:39:20 GMT
That statement reads to me "someone make us an offer and he is yours" Quite frankly Allen is the biggest problem of our midfield but he still maintains a decent reputation. Someone will take a punt on him likely one of the promoted clubs. I don't think he's the problem, but he's not the solution. I don't think one man is, especially in the fabled diamond.
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Post by wagsastokie on May 9, 2019 22:40:04 GMT
He’s got Burnley absolutely written all over him. As far as I’m concerned nick pope and around 8 mill and he’s there’s
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Post by bertiestan on May 9, 2019 23:11:10 GMT
I'll go with Brighton
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Post by Gary Hackett on May 10, 2019 0:01:45 GMT
Got nothing against Joe but he needs to go. We could make some really good money on him. A) Would we really make 'some really good money on him' ? I'd hazard a guess we'd make 2 or 3m on him at the most. B) He's our most consistent midfielder, do you really think we'd be able to recruit a better midfielder in our current situation?
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Post by lordb on May 10, 2019 5:57:03 GMT
Got nothing against Joe but he needs to go. We could make some really good money on him. A) Would we really make 'some really good money on him' ? I'd hazard a guess we'd make 2 or 3m on him at the most. B) He's our most consistent midfielder, do you really think we'd be able to recruit a better midfielder in our current situation? Do you mean £2m profit?
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Post by Gary Hackett on May 10, 2019 9:40:21 GMT
A) Would we really make 'some really good money on him' ? I'd hazard a guess we'd make 2 or 3m on him at the most. B) He's our most consistent midfielder, do you really think we'd be able to recruit a better midfielder in our current situation? Do you mean £2m profit? Of course
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Post by jimmygscfc on May 10, 2019 9:55:53 GMT
A better midfielder is one who fits the fabled diamond better than Joe, perhaps? You can't fault his effort but I also think he wants to get back to the Premiership. Our money back at least I think or whatever we could buy someone like Pearson from Preston for plus a few quid in our pockets...as an example. We could even try again for David Nugent...
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Post by robstokie on May 10, 2019 19:16:14 GMT
I like Joe, he's been a great servant and actually one of the few over the last couple if seasons who gives a shit, but I don't think he's the answer going forward. We lack physicality through the middle, which allows teams to bully us. If we can get our money back and use it to bring in a big solid holding mid and a more direct box-to-box option, I would be happy enough.
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Post by davejohnno1 on May 10, 2019 19:24:10 GMT
The only players from the current squad I'd be disappointed to lose are butland, Edwards, etebo and shawcross
The rest can go. Preferably the sooner the better.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on May 10, 2019 19:30:46 GMT
The only players from the current squad I'd be disappointed to lose are butland, Edwards, etebo and shawcross The rest can go. Preferably the sooner the better. Rather keep Batth than Shawcross, but Ryan has been better since Batth partnered him!!!
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2019 19:40:12 GMT
As someone's said already, he's maybe more of the problem than the solution to our midfield conundrum.
I think he's probably the most dispensable player we have who can still command a decent fee.
He's under contract so we should be looking for a deal that works for us first, player second.
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Post by MilanStokie on May 10, 2019 19:41:28 GMT
I can see him at Newcastle to be honest. £15m please Rafa.
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Post by neddy on May 10, 2019 19:43:43 GMT
I think he’ll go to Leicester re the Rodgers connection?
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Post by numpty40 on May 10, 2019 19:44:04 GMT
He's an odd one is Joe, nearly always one of our better players every game but doesn't actually seem to do much. It must be something to do with running around a lot.
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Post by neddy on May 10, 2019 19:48:56 GMT
He's an odd one is Joe, nearly always one of our better players every game but doesn't actually seem to do much. It must be something to do with running around a lot. Klopp didn’t want him and he runs around a lot and he likes players that run around a lot?
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 10, 2019 19:54:09 GMT
Got nothing against Joe but he needs to go. We could make some really good money on him. A) Would we really make 'some really good money on him' ? I'd hazard a guess we'd make 2 or 3m on him at the most. B) He's our most consistent midfielder, do you really think we'd be able to recruit a better midfielder in our current situation? A) I'm not on about making a profit necessarily, I was talking about getting around £15m which for a Championship club in the bottom half is pretty decent money, is it not?! B) We simply need someone different who can make things happen with the ball and yes, of course we could replace him. Etebo is the one we need to keep.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on May 10, 2019 20:02:40 GMT
Without doubt one of the most odd players I've seen for Stoke.
Always in your top 3 players of the season, but had caused more questions than provided answers and genuinely looks to have made us worse.
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Post by owdestokie2 on May 10, 2019 20:06:34 GMT
He's an odd one is Joe, nearly always one of our better players every game but doesn't actually seem to do much. It must be something to do with running around a lot. “Doesn’t seem to do so much”.......”It must be something to do with running about a lot” No dig at you numpty because your post reflects similar comments on the Oatcake I believe, without checking that his automatic 1st choice appearances under four different managers since he signed would suggest that professional footballing managers and coach’s see, and value his contribution more than us guys sitting in the stands. IMHO JA is/would be core to us being successful
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Post by owdestokie2 on May 10, 2019 20:12:59 GMT
Without doubt one of the most odd players I've seen for Stoke. Always in your top 3 players of the season, but had caused more questions than provided answers and genuinely looks to have made us worse. Because “we” as supporters mainly see what happens “on” the ball rather what happens “off” the ball. How many players over over the years have posters dismissed prior to signing, slagged off during their contract and been proved completely wrong. Recent samples being Whelan, Walters etc.
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Post by neddy on May 10, 2019 20:13:51 GMT
He's an odd one is Joe, nearly always one of our better players every game but doesn't actually seem to do much. It must be something to do with running around a lot. “Doesn’t seem to do so much”.......”It must be something to do with running about a lot” No dig at you numpty because your post reflects similar comments on the Oatcake I believe, without checking that his automatic 1st choice appearances under four different managers since he signed would suggest that professional footballing managers and coach’s see, and value his contribution more than us guys sitting in the stands. IMHO JA is/would be core to us being successful I kind of agree but just a thought why do you think Klopp didn’t want him? Do you think it was just he could afford and get even better?
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Post by numpty40 on May 10, 2019 20:18:05 GMT
He's an odd one is Joe, nearly always one of our better players every game but doesn't actually seem to do much. It must be something to do with running around a lot. “Doesn’t seem to do so much”.......”It must be something to do with running about a lot” No dig at you numpty because your post reflects similar comments on the Oatcake I believe, without checking that his automatic 1st choice appearances under four different managers since he signed would suggest that professional footballing managers and coach’s see, and value his contribution more than us guys sitting in the stands. IMHO JA is/would be core to us being successful Quite agree owd, we all see things differently, those 4 managers that see something in Allen don't see anything in Bojan. Just plain weird this football stuff when you consider where we are now thanks to those managers.
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Post by owdestokie2 on May 10, 2019 20:47:26 GMT
“Doesn’t seem to do so much”.......”It must be something to do with running about a lot” No dig at you numpty because your post reflects similar comments on the Oatcake I believe, without checking that his automatic 1st choice appearances under four different managers since he signed would suggest that professional footballing managers and coach’s see, and value his contribution more than us guys sitting in the stands. IMHO JA is/would be core to us being successful I kind of agree but just a thought why do you think Klopp didn’t want him? Do you think it was just he could afford and get even better? I think you have to consider the difference between Liverpool and Stoke as clubs. Their recent history, potential and worldwide acclaim is massive and will remain so. Klopp was/is building for continued success in Champions League and EPL. We have to recognise the reality and our ability to sustain EPL membership and the players that we could/can afford and rely upon to b3 value for money. JA was/is a perfect fit for us
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