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Post by pembo82 on Mar 2, 2019 20:59:46 GMT
I have to agree he is just living on his reputation the fact that with 4 Stoke managers and his spells on loan he’s not been a figure in the first team must say something
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Post by owdestokie2 on Mar 2, 2019 21:00:19 GMT
Form is hit and miss , quality and class is permanent, the lad needs a run of games Quote.....Joselou
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Post by ChesterStokie on Mar 2, 2019 21:03:04 GMT
We cannot judge Bojan’s performance when he is played so totally out of position. I’m really disappointed that Jones cannot see that it is a total waste of time playing him in that position, even if he is given a run of games there. He simply doesn’t have the physical attributes to play there and he never will.
He has to play centrally as a number 10 or tip of the diamond where he can weave his magic and make things happen in the final third or he shouldn’t play at all.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Mar 2, 2019 21:07:10 GMT
Who will back their personal opinions if Bojan doesn’t complete 23 games next season (if he is still with us) and donate £50 to Dougy Mac?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 21:08:39 GMT
We cannot judge Bojan’s performance when he is played so totally out of position. I’m really disappointed that Jones cannot see that it is a total waste of time playing him in that position, even if he is given a run of games there. He simply doesn’t have the physical attributes to play there and he never will. He has to play centrally as a number 10 or tip of the diamond where he can weave his magic and make things happen in the final third or he shouldn’t play at all. I agree it’s not great playing him out of position but he had at least two of them marking him as well most of the time. No other member of our team warrants such attention and I think people underestimate how that helps the others and the team generally. We don’t always need his magic. He can make a nuisance of himself and sometimes that’s enough.
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Post by ed5993 on Mar 2, 2019 21:09:03 GMT
Definitely the least effective player on the pitch - a couple of promising glimpses in the first half, but totally justified being taken off and MacLean came on and positively changed the tempo for us
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Post by TheWiseMaster on Mar 2, 2019 21:11:09 GMT
Played well and had just had a great run with little help from his team mates
Deserved longer imho and needs more regular games
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 21:11:37 GMT
Definitely the least effective player on the pitch - a couple of promising glimpses in the first half, but totally justified being taken off and MacLean came on and positively changed the tempo for us McLean did fuck all. Ince decided to put a shift in for once which massively changed the tempo. Edwards started coming forward a lot more. Nothing to do with Bojan coming off.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Mar 2, 2019 21:14:22 GMT
There's none so blind as them that won't see
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Post by robwahlmann on Mar 2, 2019 21:19:07 GMT
How blind or biased is it possible to become!? Not biased. I've had this conversation with you before. I've been totally open on him until the last couple of games in which he's tried my patience beyond its limit. In my post I made the mistake of saying "after the second goal", that was an error which I'm happy to take back due to his "assist" (but to say, like ToxicAvenger does, that he "created the goal" is nonsense, it was 95% Afobe), I was meaning "until the last 20/25 mins", but my judgement on him remains the same. He has never looked the business as a Stoke player other than odd patches. He's supposed to be our talismanic, Championship-royalty winger, but he's generally crap. I get the feeling he's never got going and there's more to offer, I've been giving him the benefit of the doubt in that regard for months, but now I'm convinced he'll never be worth the money we paid, nor the countless first-choice picks he's receiving. Bang average and doesn't look like he gives a shit. I think he is our most creative spark though!
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Post by heworksardtho on Mar 2, 2019 21:21:41 GMT
Form is hit and miss , quality and class is permanent, the lad needs a run of games Quote.....Joselou Not fit to lace bojans boots ...........Unquote
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Post by padders01 on Mar 2, 2019 21:27:06 GMT
Why do people want a player to play so much he hasn’t offered anything for 3 years? Worst player on the pitch today, and that’s a fact! What a pathetic comment that is SGS Thanks
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Post by padders01 on Mar 2, 2019 21:31:43 GMT
Did he do anything at all? You obviously didn't notice that he was molested by Yates towards the end of the first half. Until then he did as well as you could expect from a player who hasn't played a full 90 minutes since back in September, nothing outstanding, but just by being there he gave Forest defenders a headache, leaving space for Etebo to explore and score our first goal. That's right, I just credited Bojan with his share in the goal even though he didn't touch the ball. If you can't understand this, you "know nothing about football", as someone said earlier in the thread. I suggest you watch the goal again!! He is nowhere near the ball and there are no Forest players running anyway near him. Bojan has absolutely nothing to do with the first goal
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Post by padders01 on Mar 2, 2019 21:35:28 GMT
Can we stop overstating the supposed booing for the sub - it was mainly forest fans booing McClean like they always do..... Was plenty around me to be fair Agreed heard plenty from the home ends
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Post by clintonbaptiste on Mar 2, 2019 21:42:21 GMT
Here we go again. He's just not very good nor the answer to our prayers. The club's who've declined keeping him after numerous loans along with 4 consecutive stoke managers will tell you that. Move on.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 2, 2019 21:45:47 GMT
Here we go again. He's just not very good nor the answer to our prayers. The club's who've declined keeping him after numerous loans along with 4 consecutive stoke managers will tell you that. Move on. He was played out of position. I don’t necessarily think you’re wrong but we can’t really judge til he gets a run in his best position.
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Post by werrington on Mar 2, 2019 21:49:12 GMT
Shall we play Shawcross left wing and judge him also
Fuck off eh
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 21:49:38 GMT
Here we go again. He's just not very good nor the answer to our prayers. The club's who've declined keeping him after numerous loans along with 4 consecutive stoke managers will tell you that. Move on. Sounds like common sense to me, that kind of talk will get you burned at the stake in these parts!!! WITCH!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 21:52:09 GMT
Shall we play Shawcross left wing and judge him also Fuck off eh Don’t start the Shawcross haters off mate! I mean he also did nothing wrong today having barely played so surely it’s just a matter of time before he gets a 5 page thread slagging him off for no apparent reason whatsoever?
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Post by potterpaul on Mar 2, 2019 21:53:06 GMT
Not able to watch game but it sounds far from a Diouf type comeback
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 21:55:03 GMT
Not able to watch game but it sounds far from a Diouf type comeback It was. But it’s Bojan and he didn’t single handledly win us the game with a double hat trick so he’s shit now and we should get rid of him 🙄
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Post by tosh on Mar 2, 2019 21:55:24 GMT
There's none so blind as them that won't see It takes one to know one.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 21:55:58 GMT
Not able to watch game but it sounds far from a Diouf type comeback It was. But it’s Bojan and he didn’t single handledly win us the game with a double hat trick so he’s shit now and we should get rid of him 🙄 Literally the reverse of how he's viewed on here.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Mar 2, 2019 21:56:06 GMT
We cannot judge Bojan’s performance when he is played so totally out of position. I’m really disappointed that Jones cannot see that it is a total waste of time playing him in that position, even if he is given a run of games there. He simply doesn’t have the physical attributes to play there and he never will. He has to play centrally as a number 10 or tip of the diamond where he can weave his magic and make things happen in the final third or he shouldn’t play at all. I agree it’s not great playing him out of position but he had at least two of them marking him as well most of the time. No other member of our team warrants such attention and I think people underestimate how that helps the others and the team generally. We don’t always need his magic. He can make a nuisance of himself and sometimes that’s enough. Every time he plays the opposition shit themselves! He continues to be the only one who regularly controls the ball and passes it to a colleague.
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Post by rorystowel on Mar 2, 2019 21:57:01 GMT
I thought he was okay with some tidy passes going forward but he also gave the ball away twice in dangerous positions, one of them being in our own penalty area. I think he just needs an assist or a goal to boost his confidence.
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Post by werrington on Mar 2, 2019 22:01:30 GMT
I thought he was okay with some tidy passes going forward but he also gave the ball away twice in dangerous positions, one of them being in our own penalty area. I think he just needs an assist or a goal to boost his confidence. He also did a fantastic possession winning tackle in his own penalty box second half No offence mate but we see what we want to see
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Post by wakeypotter on Mar 2, 2019 22:01:49 GMT
Offered absolutely nothing again. For the idiots who booed the substitution, you know nothing about football! It was clear to see Bojan offered nothing, McClean is no Ronaldo but you know what you are going to get. Funny how as soon as the substitution was made we played a lot better. The sooner he leaves the better. Will stop all the fans pining for him to play when he offers so little. Gordon Bennett the guy gets a hour and your saying the sooner he leaves the better. I didn’t go or watch the game but give your head a shake mate. It’s ok for all others to get a chance and a run of games when ther playing shit but no not bojan. It’s not a love fest either is about giving a guy a fair crack like everyone else. I bet it wa you sat at side of me at Hull. Unbelievable
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Post by Ygor on Mar 2, 2019 22:01:49 GMT
just living on his reputation the fact that with 4 Stoke managers and his spells on loan he’s not been a figure in the first team must say something It says a number of managers can't recognise a class player when they see one?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 22:04:16 GMT
It was. But it’s Bojan and he didn’t single handledly win us the game with a double hat trick so he’s shit now and we should get rid of him 🙄 Literally the reverse of how he's viewed on here. I’ve not read the whole thread as I feel like I’ve read this very same thread about 45 times this season. But I’m guessing it’s only got to 5 pages because people who think Bojan should have a chance are getting told he shouldn’t by people who thinks he’s shit because he didn’t single handled win us the game. He will forever be judged on another level to everyone else. He’s hardly played. Didn’t really do anything wrong. Kept passing the ball forwards as much as possible. For what it’s worth I don’t think he’s the answer. If I’m completely honest I don’t think we will ever see what we saw from him before (in the most part because he has nowhere near the same level of talent around him). But I do think he has more talent and intelligence that most of the rest of them have in their little toe and he’s not really put a foot wrong in the limited time he’s played this season so I do not understand those who are slagging him off at at all.
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Post by rorystowel on Mar 2, 2019 22:06:53 GMT
I thought he was okay with some tidy passes going forward but he also gave the ball away twice in dangerous positions, one of them being in our own penalty area. I think he just needs an assist or a goal to boost his confidence. He also did a fantastic possession winning tackle in his own penalty box second half No offence mate but we see what we want to see I speak as I find mate, so no offence taken. I’ve not got an axe to grind with Bojan or any of our other players.
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