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Post by robwahlmann on Mar 2, 2019 19:22:29 GMT
...and you watched the game? Ince was the same crap waste of space we've become (unfortunately) accustomed to, until the second goal went in, and then the cowardly fucker burst into life knowing that we were comfortable. How blind or biased is it possible to become!?
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Post by stiggerstackle on Mar 2, 2019 19:24:56 GMT
Ince was the same crap waste of space we've become (unfortunately) accustomed to, until the second goal went in, and then the cowardly fucker burst into life knowing that we were comfortable. Is that the second goal that he created? I didn’t think it was that great a ball to be honest, Benny had a lot to do and did it bloody well - that goal was all down to him, I certainly wouldn’t say Ince created it.
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Post by lordb on Mar 2, 2019 19:25:59 GMT
I'd play Bojan next week
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Post by scfc5 on Mar 2, 2019 19:27:37 GMT
He did ok. In the time both were on the pitch, he was no better or worse than Ince. Neither could have any real argument about being subbed at that point.
Ince woke up last 20 minutes and then played well.
Hope he starts again at QPR and gets as many chances as Ince and McClean between now and the end of the season.
No need for the original post obviously just looking for a reaction. Just judge him like any other player - no love-in, just fairness. Bojan played as you might expect him to after a while out but no reason to abandon him for McClean next week.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Mar 2, 2019 19:29:14 GMT
Ince was the same crap waste of space we've become (unfortunately) accustomed to, until the second goal went in, and then the cowardly fucker burst into life knowing that we were comfortable. How blind or biased is it possible to become!? Not biased. I've had this conversation with you before. I've been totally open on him until the last couple of games in which he's tried my patience beyond its limit. In my post I made the mistake of saying "after the second goal", that was an error which I'm happy to take back due to his "assist" (but to say, like ToxicAvenger does, that he "created the goal" is nonsense, it was 95% Afobe), I was meaning "until the last 20/25 mins", but my judgement on him remains the same. He has never looked the business as a Stoke player other than odd patches. He's supposed to be our talismanic, Championship-royalty winger, but he's generally crap. I get the feeling he's never got going and there's more to offer, I've been giving him the benefit of the doubt in that regard for months, but now I'm convinced he'll never be worth the money we paid, nor the countless first-choice picks he's receiving. Bang average and doesn't look like he gives a shit.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 2, 2019 19:29:24 GMT
Is that the second goal that he created? I didn’t think it was that great a ball to be honest, Benny had a lot to do and did it bloody well - that goal was all down to him, I certainly wouldn’t say Ince created it. He was being fouled and held off the defender to play him in. Agree Afobe had a lot to do but Ince did well to get a ball away at all. Ince was anonymous for an hour but really stepped up after Bojan went off.
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Post by nik80 on Mar 2, 2019 19:35:46 GMT
Ince was the same crap waste of space we've become (unfortunately) accustomed to, until the second goal went in, and then the cowardly fucker burst into life knowing that we were comfortable. Is that the second goal that he created? He doesn’t look like he even wants to play football most of the time, he cuts a very awkward, disinterested character for me. That said, as the post above implies, he sprung to life once he’d done something worthwhile. That’s not bad, obviously his tail was up. More of the last fifteen minutes from today and not the ninety minutes last week and the majority of today. I really don’t think that’s an unfair point of view. He just doesn’t look like he wants to play football a lot of the time.
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Post by stiggerstackle on Mar 2, 2019 19:40:47 GMT
I didn’t think it was that great a ball to be honest, Benny had a lot to do and did it bloody well - that goal was all down to him, I certainly wouldn’t say Ince created it. He was being fouled and held off the defender to play him in. Agree Afobe had a lot to do but Ince did well to get a ball away at all. Ince was anonymous for an hour but really stepped up after Bojan went off. He really did to be fair - it would be an absolute joy if they could both click together.
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Post by roylandstoke on Mar 2, 2019 19:41:01 GMT
Bojan was OK: definitely not the worst on show.
An ok Bojan is twice the player the fella who replaced him is on his best day.
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Post by expectedtoulouse on Mar 2, 2019 19:44:22 GMT
Jones wants Bojan, Adam and Diouf out. Hanging him out to dry on the left wing and subbing him before 60 mins, making up bullshit about Adam blowing out his arse last week and not giving Mame a chance.
Bring on the Luton Town stiffs next season.
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Post by mt on Mar 2, 2019 19:45:34 GMT
He was okay, pretty much as usual. He play some good stuff and some bad stuff, but for most of the time he just walk or run around on the pitch without being involved to much.
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Post by stokiejoe on Mar 2, 2019 19:46:54 GMT
Very easily knocked off the ball. Would wish to give him the opportunity to become match fit and then see. Not sure he will make it but if he does then he can become a huge asset. We have to pay him so we may as well play him unless it becomes obvious that he isn't going to make it.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Mar 2, 2019 19:48:32 GMT
What a completely obvious and wank thread.
Today was a midfield battle with zero space for anyone.
We won and Bojan should remain the team
Next.....
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Mar 2, 2019 19:50:12 GMT
Jones wants Bojan, Adam and Diouf out. Hanging him out to dry on the left wing and subbing him before 60 mins, making up bullshit about Adam blowing out his arse last week and not giving Mame a chance. Bring on the Luton Town stiffs next season. If he wants Bojan out after telling him he's the ideal candidate for the tip of the diamond (and convincing him to stay when he could have left), then Jones is a knob.
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Post by kelw on Mar 2, 2019 19:51:59 GMT
He was ok, had some moments when he held the ball and not a player in sight. Give him a couple of games like Charlie and we might actually win again
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Post by numpty40 on Mar 2, 2019 20:14:57 GMT
He was a good solid 6, hardly pulled up any trees but to say he was the worst player on the pitch is ridiculous and agenda driven. It was wrong to boo the substitutiion but I genuinely feel it was borne out of frustration, we're winning and playing as well as we have all season and before the hour is up Bojan is hooked. Now I honestly thought, and so did most people round me, it was Ince that was going to make way for McClean because despite what some have said on here, he was truly fucking woeful up to that point. However the substitution was clearly fully justified and maybe we should all show a little more trust in what Nathan Jones is doing.
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Post by steewee on Mar 2, 2019 20:17:44 GMT
Stop this Bojan love fest? Stop loving real exciting football? Why? You crazy or summat?!?!
Excellent game after being brought in cold after several matches as an unused sub. Could see the quality straight away. Needs ample opportunity just like the other wannabe footballers in our squad so he can start ticking and excel.
Awesome, awesome player.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 2, 2019 20:21:46 GMT
Stop this Bojan love fest? Stop loving real exciting football? Why? You crazy or summat?!?! Excellent game after being brought in cold after several matches as an unused sub. Could see the quality straight away. Needs ample opportunity just like the other wannabe footballers in our squad so he can start ticking and excel. Awesome, awesome player. I don’t think he was excellent, obviously needs more time but he couldn’t complain about being subbed
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Post by kidcrewbob on Mar 2, 2019 20:27:34 GMT
Can we stop overstating the supposed booing for the sub - it was mainly forest fans booing McClean like they always do.....
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Post by steewee on Mar 2, 2019 20:31:12 GMT
Stop this Bojan love fest? Stop loving real exciting football? Why? You crazy or summat?!?! Excellent game after being brought in cold after several matches as an unused sub. Could see the quality straight away. Needs ample opportunity just like the other wannabe footballers in our squad so he can start ticking and excel. Awesome, awesome player. I don’t think he was excellent, obviously needs more time but he couldn’t complain about being subbed Disagree, first game after ages and looked good.. he gave the ball away a few times but that latitude should be extended to a creative player. You don't want to cage them off and make them play keep ball or you'll end up with a Ryan Woods. His touch and general class was superb. He will improve, he needs the trust and minutes. We need to make him our main man.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 20:32:39 GMT
Can we stop overstating the supposed booing for the sub - it was mainly forest fans booing McClean like they always do..... I was confused by the booing the sub comments. I didn’t think there was much booing other than the forest fans booing McClean as you say
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Mar 2, 2019 20:44:23 GMT
Why do people so despise fans wanting a player to play? As I said elsewhere, not his best game, but certainly not a poor one. Why do people want a player to play so much he hasn’t offered anything for 3 years? Worst player on the pitch today, and that’s a fact! What a pathetic comment that is SGS
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 20:46:56 GMT
Can we stop overstating the supposed booing for the sub - it was mainly forest fans booing McClean like they always do..... I was confused by the booing the sub comments. I didn’t think there was much booing other than the forest fans booing McClean as you say Loads around me in the Tile Mountain stand mate, and quite a few openly abusing the manager. Staggering.
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Post by chad on Mar 2, 2019 20:52:06 GMT
Thought Bojan was ok. A few really good through balls , just what we’ve been lacking Thought he was unlucky to be subbed as both Clucas and Ince were having worse games ( although Ince did come alive for the last 20 minutes)
I’d start him next week and the week after. He’ll be better if he gets regular time on the pitch
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 2, 2019 20:52:07 GMT
The only booing I heard was from the Forest fans for McClean replacing Bojan
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Mar 2, 2019 20:52:20 GMT
I was confused by the booing the sub comments. I didn’t think there was much booing other than the forest fans booing McClean as you say Loads around me in the Tile Mountain stand mate, and quite a few openly abusing the manager. Staggering. We don’t half have some fucking dribbles following this club.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 20:53:21 GMT
Loads around me in the Tile Mountain stand mate, and quite a few openly abusing the manager. Staggering. We don’t half have some fucking dribbles following this club. Jesus mate, I was only saying what I heard. No need...
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Post by mozzer68 on Mar 2, 2019 20:56:03 GMT
When he got the ball he tried to lay it off and found space, there were several times when he should have received the ball but it went right, long or backwards, he certainly wasn't any worse than Ince who only turned up in the last 10 minutes. I'm not desperate for him to play just for the sake of it but given the shit some of these players have served up so far, i think he at least deserves a few starts
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 20:58:41 GMT
I was confused by the booing the sub comments. I didn’t think there was much booing other than the forest fans booing McClean as you say Loads around me in the Tile Mountain stand mate, and quite a few openly abusing the manager. Staggering. No need for booing. No need for 4 pages of slating someone whose barely played and didn’t really do anything wrong in a game we won either. But worried for folk on here if we do turn things around tbh. What will they do when they cant whinge about everything and everyone 24/7...
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Post by kelw on Mar 2, 2019 20:58:57 GMT
Can we stop overstating the supposed booing for the sub - it was mainly forest fans booing McClean like they always do..... Was plenty around me to be fair
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