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Post by bolders on Mar 19, 2019 13:07:19 GMT
Does Shawcross' very promising recent form mean we can pencil him in as a starter next season? xxxEdwards Batth Shawcross JustinClucas*Etebo Woods***SawyersVokes Afobe**Then we'll have Souttar, Campbell, Verlinden knocking around the fringes of the team, although not sure where Verlinden would play in a diamond? Filled in from whom we were linked with under Jones in the January transfer window * Jones seems to like Clucas so think he will stay ** Don't think we will buy another striker *** If he can get him playing like he did at Bretford again or if Villa are still sniffing sell him to Dean Smith
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Mar 19, 2019 13:41:20 GMT
Does Shawcross' very promising recent form mean we can pencil him in as a starter next season? xxxEdwards Batth Shawcross JustinClucas*Etebo Woods***SawyersVokes Afobe**Then we'll have Souttar, Campbell, Verlinden knocking around the fringes of the team, although not sure where Verlinden would play in a diamond? Filled in from whom we were linked with under Jones in the January transfer window * Jones seems to like Clucas so think he will stay ** Don't think we will buy another striker *** If he can get him playing like he did at Bretford again or if Villa are still sniffing sell him to Dean Smith It would need a huge turn around of epic proportions for Afobe to be starting next season. Like many at Stoke, he once did it eleswhere.
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Post by bolders on Mar 19, 2019 14:36:21 GMT
Filled in from whom we were linked with under Jones in the January transfer window * Jones seems to like Clucas so think he will stay ** Don't think we will buy another striker *** If he can get him playing like he did at Bretford again or if Villa are still sniffing sell him to Dean Smith It would need a huge turn around of epic proportions for Afobe to be starting next season. Like many at Stoke, he once did it eleswhere. Like you said he has done it before with the right players and set up he can do it again he just isn’t a target man he needs to play off one
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Post by gingerninja on Mar 19, 2019 14:42:19 GMT
We were allegedly after Ben Osborn in January. Would he be a more creative option than McClean?. Would Forest come in for McClean given the O,Neill link?. Is Osborn any better than McClean?
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Post by Meirparkstokie on Mar 19, 2019 18:27:37 GMT
You know what... no matter how shite this season has been I can’t help but feel optimistic for next season.
It’s been a tough few months for NJ but through the fog of disappointment and players with awful attitudes you can slowly see a team to build upon with players who want to play for Stoke City. He’s bringing players into the starting 11 now who will play for the shirt next season.
Butland (if he doesn’t go) Edwards Bathh Shawcross (for all his faults) BMI (as of late) Etebo Verlinden Vokes (if he plays someone off him)
The rest for me can go including Joe Allen. Great server to the club but he can’t pass, lacks creativity, loses the ball. We need an nzonzi type player instead.
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Post by mrteddysalad on Mar 19, 2019 18:53:21 GMT
Campbell too
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Post by lordb on Mar 19, 2019 19:13:31 GMT
Really? Thought he has impressed, scored on loan too.
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Post by robwahlmann on Mar 19, 2019 19:31:35 GMT
Pace is everything in the game today and although Vokes has a good goal scoring record he lacks pace! Pace is hugely important in the game but not all centre forwards have to have it. How many target men have pace? Getting pace around him will be the key. Young Tyrese to step up?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 19, 2019 20:16:09 GMT
Pace is hugely important in the game but not all centre forwards have to have it. How many target men have pace? Getting pace around him will be the key. Young Tyrese to step up? Hopefully!
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Mar 19, 2019 22:02:12 GMT
I’ll say it now in the hope he turns out to be the next Harry Kane , but Iv3 see little in Campbell to suggest he can be a mainstay in a promotion team
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 23:12:08 GMT
A midfield of Allen and Etebo does not work, Etebo needs to sit at the base of the diamond, which happens to be the role Woods plays too.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Mar 20, 2019 0:05:22 GMT
A midfield of Allen and Etebo does not work, Etebo needs to sit at the base of the diamond, which happens to be the role Woods plays too. Easy, Etebo over the pair of them every time!!!
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Post by kustokie on Mar 20, 2019 0:43:53 GMT
This summer is the last chance to make good buys with the parachute money, plus what we can get for the players that other teams actually want or can afford (we are take big losses on Berahino, Wimmer, and Imbula). There would plenty of takers for Imbula at 5 million, but Stoke want 15 million which they won’t get. Same goes for Butland. He’s a championship goalie who will not command the same price as an equivalent player in the PL, because teams know we need to raise cash, which puts us in a weak bargaining position. Then we have to find players at least as good as those that leave; otherwise we’ll be walking in place and other teams will move ahead.
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Post by kustokie on Mar 20, 2019 0:45:39 GMT
A midfield of Allen and Etebo does not work, Etebo needs to sit at the base of the diamond, which happens to be the role Woods plays too. Easy, Etebo over the pair of them every time!!! I agree. Woods is the backup to Etebo (assuming another team doesn’t sweep in and make an offer we can’t refuse).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2019 0:47:55 GMT
There would plenty of takers for Imbula at 5 million Name just one club who would pay £5M and wages for a player with G's reputation?
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Post by kustokie on Mar 20, 2019 0:55:13 GMT
There would plenty of takers for Imbula at 5 million Name just one club who would pay £5M and wages for a player with G's reputation? Ok. Maybe 2 million. All last season’s players are going to get a big relegation pay cut, so that will help. If we can’t find a buyer we may have to cut our losses, bite the bullet and pay him off. N’daye is another big millstone. Galatasaray want him but can only afford 5 million. Stoke want 15 - no chance.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Mar 20, 2019 2:30:53 GMT
Easy, Etebo over the pair of them every time!!! I agree. Woods is the backup to Etebo (assuming another team doesn’t sweep in and make an offer we can’t refuse). 25p and a pie should do it, right!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2019 13:05:41 GMT
Name just one club who would pay £5M and wages for a player with G's reputation? Ok. Maybe 2 million. All last season’s players are going to get a big relegation pay cut, so that will help. If we can’t find a buyer we may have to cut our losses, bite the bullet and pay him off. N’daye is another big millstone. Galatasaray want him but can only afford 5 million. Stoke want 15 - no chance. Where Imbula might have hurt his reputation and career, N'daye's still a potential star. We should not sell him for 5M. If we looked anything like reaching promotion we should even try and persuade him to come back, as a player with his class and energy would be just perfect for the diamond. But promotion may be several years into the future, so we should look to get at least what we paid for him, maybe from an Italian, French or Spanish club, maybe even German.
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Post by bolders on Mar 20, 2019 13:08:03 GMT
Needed will be 1st Goalkeeper. A left back,A CB, striker,AM, In Campbell verlinden Sorensen . Jones wants two players for each position. That 22 players. I think it will be a young team with a couple of mature players. I don't think he will be able to buy another striker, we might get a loan for a youngster, but it will be Volkes, Afobe and Campbell as our forward options if we sack Bera and move Diouf on. If we can keep BMI then him and Batth should be first 2 and Shawcross and Soutter as back up
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Post by mrteddysalad on Mar 20, 2019 15:34:00 GMT
Really? Thought he has impressed, scored on loan too. That’s what I’m saying, I want him around next season and him Verlinden and Edwards have all impressed and give me something to hang on to instead of our overpaid tossers heldover from relegation.
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Post by potterpaul on Mar 21, 2019 1:54:42 GMT
Needed will be 1st Goalkeeper. A left back,A CB, striker,AM, In Campbell verlinden Sorensen . Jones wants two players for each position. That 22 players. I think it will be a young team with a couple of mature players. I don't think he will be able to buy another striker, we might get a loan for a youngster, but it will be Volkes, Afobe and Campbell as our forward options if we sack Bera and move Diouf on. If we can keep BMI then him and Batth should be first 2 and Shawcross and Soutter as back up Add young Collins to your list of CB's and we have more than enough, if they all stay that is.
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Post by mrcoke on Mar 21, 2019 9:19:19 GMT
I am expecting to see a "clean out" this summer, but don't expect it to be as comprehensive as some posters..
Firstly there will be players that the club just can't move on, no one will take them.
Secondly there are players Jones will want to retain, some of whom may surprise us. He is clearly giving Ince and Clucas every chance to prove themselves, whilst he has been prepared to drop Woods, McClean, and Afobe and try someone else. Maybe in Clucas case he can see things on the training ground that we are not seeing on match day.
Finally I think it is wise to keep a few old heads around in the dressing room. Ideally your model professionals like Ryan and someone to keep young carefree lads in check.
The club's biggest problem is going to be what to do with the expensive signings out on loan. It would be nice to think they could be turned into useful assets if at all possible, but some how I doubt it. In fact we may be adding to the list with Berahino.
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 10, 2019 8:16:32 GMT
How many Rowett signings are we expecting in the team (or even still on the books) come the first day of next season?
Hopefully Etebo.
But Clucas (although the Jones-Clucas love-in is starting to worry me)? Ince? McClean? Afobe? Woods?
Not much to show for £50m.
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Post by hyaduck on Apr 10, 2019 8:49:17 GMT
The defence needs to be sorted, if we're to move on then so does Shawcross. Too slow and lack of ability.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 8:54:26 GMT
The defence needs to be sorted, if we're to move on then so does Shawcross. Too slow and lack of ability. Thought Ryan was appalling for the second goal last night...
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 10, 2019 9:17:23 GMT
The defence needs to be sorted, if we're to move on then so does Shawcross. Too slow and lack of ability. Is this the defence that before last night hadn’t conceded a goal for five games?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 9:53:11 GMT
The defence needs to be sorted, if we're to move on then so does Shawcross. Too slow and lack of ability. Thought Ryan was appalling for the second goal last night... Ryan did nothing to stop any of the goals yesterday, it is appalling.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Apr 10, 2019 10:33:11 GMT
Clucas, Ince and McClean will stay because they're earning good wages here.
Adam, Fletcher, Diouf, Pieters maybe Bauer and Woods will lea e
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Post by spitthedog on Apr 10, 2019 11:07:55 GMT
Allen and Etebo as a midfield pairing simply does not work and never will work. It should be bloody obvious by now.
If you are going to play the current system, one of them has to go.
Allen is useless unless he is in a midfield of 3 or 4. As a midfield pair he gets bullied out of games due to his physicality, lack of technique and lack of pace.
Our midfield last night was the main reason why we got slaughtered. No creativity, no protection for the defence, the midfield makes the defence look vulnerable and the the forwards don't get any service.
We need someone in there with authority. It's like a wet lettuce at the moment.
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Post by musik on Apr 10, 2019 11:16:48 GMT
striker
striker
and another striker
sorted
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