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Post by felonious on Feb 25, 2019 18:17:57 GMT
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Post by telfordstoke on Feb 25, 2019 20:41:20 GMT
A relative of my wife died in these attacks, we see them every few months and this is something that never leaves them , pleased the inquests are happening this week. Local news covered it sympathetically
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Post by xchpotter on Feb 25, 2019 20:55:29 GMT
I see the coroner has said they won’t be seeking to find out who was responsible, yet they will examine what led up to the deaths and what those in authority did or ignored. So in summary that translates to another witch-hunt on the police and security services whilst pussy footing around the IRA for fear of upsetting them.
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Post by telfordstoke on Feb 25, 2019 21:01:46 GMT
The IRA guy who made a half arsed apology a couple of years ago didn’t help things . I think there’s validity to the inquests even if they won’t cover everything necessary.
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Post by lordb on Feb 25, 2019 21:04:52 GMT
I see the coroner has said they won’t be seeking to find out who was responsible, yet they will examine what led up to the deaths and what those in authority did or ignored. So in summary that translates to another witch-hunt on the police and security services whilst pussy footing around the IRA for fear of upsetting them. The police failed us all. |
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 27, 2019 7:00:15 GMT
The sad truth is the Birmingham pub bombings are now more known for a miscarriage of justice than for those innocent people who were killed.
Don't believe that?
Well ask yourself how many people were killed in those attacks and how many people were jailed unfairly. I'll bet you it's easier to answer the latter more easily than the former.
This enquiry looks like it will simply re-enforce that situation.
It would be nice, however, if it could return appropriate focus on those people who were murdered by the IRA.
Even better if the actual killers were identified.
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Post by felonious on Feb 27, 2019 8:46:39 GMT
The sad truth is the Birmingham pub bombings are now more known for a miscarriage of justice than for those innocent people who were killed. Don't believe that? Well ask yourself how many people were killed in those attacks and how many people were jailed unfairly. I'll bet you it's easier to answer the latter more easily than the former. This enquiry looks like it will simply re-enforce that situation. It would be nice, however, if it could return appropriate focus on those people who were murdered by the IRA. Even better if the actual killers were identified. Presumably the murderers hold their letters of comfort?
www.theirishworld.com/real-bombers-got-letters-of-freedom/
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Post by Northy on Feb 27, 2019 9:01:20 GMT
The sad truth is the Birmingham pub bombings are now more known for a miscarriage of justice than for those innocent people who were killed. Don't believe that? Well ask yourself how many people were killed in those attacks and how many people were jailed unfairly. I'll bet you it's easier to answer the latter more easily than the former. This enquiry looks like it will simply re-enforce that situation. It would be nice, however, if it could return appropriate focus on those people who were murdered by the IRA. Even better if the actual killers were identified. Presumably the murderers hold their letters of comfort?
www.theirishworld.com/real-bombers-got-letters-of-freedom/
Ah, good old Tony Blair, don't we all love his legacy  |
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Post by felonious on Feb 27, 2019 9:54:27 GMT
Ah, good old Tony Blair, don't we all love his legacy Surely he also gave them to the soldiers who served in Northern Ireland? |
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Feb 27, 2019 10:16:46 GMT
Don't forget that the Omagh bomb went off during Blair's Watch as well.
'No stone would be left unturned in bringing the bombers to justice'
No stone has been left unturned in sacrificing British Soldiers who fought in Ireland & victims of bombings for political ends.
(See Good Friday Agreement)
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Post by partickpotter on Apr 5, 2019 14:06:05 GMT
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Post by felonious on Apr 5, 2019 18:03:00 GMT
After the inquests, WMP Chief Constable Dave Thompson said: "We are carrying out a number of active lines of enquiry around that and that still remains an active.
"Though my absolute statement is, we if could bring people to justice we would do and the moment we have an active criminal investigation."
Do they have the ability to go after the 4 suspects named by the IRA chief from Dublin?
Would it be possible to arrest Seamus McLoughlin, Mick Murray, Michael Hayes and James Francis Gavin if they hold Letters of comfort from Tony Blair?
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Post by kelw on Apr 5, 2019 20:47:24 GMT
Don't forget that the Omagh bomb went off during Blair's Watch as well. 'No stone would be left unturned in bringing the bombers to justice' No stone has been left unturned in sacrificing British Soldiers who fought in Ireland & victims of bombings for political ends. (See Good Friday Agreement) I think you mean N Ireland |
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Post by franklin66 on Apr 5, 2019 22:08:53 GMT
After the inquests, WMP Chief Constable Dave Thompson said: "We are carrying out a number of active lines of enquiry around that and that still remains an active.
"Though my absolute statement is, we if could bring people to justice we would do and the moment we have an active criminal investigation."
Do they have the ability to go after the 4 suspects named by the IRA chief from Dublin?
Would it be possible to arrest Seamus McLoughlin, Mick Murray, Michael Hayes and James Francis Gavin if they hold Letters of comfort from Tony Blair?
I think three are dead and as you say one has a pardon card from Tony. |
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 6, 2019 12:12:50 GMT
After the inquests, WMP Chief Constable Dave Thompson said: "We are carrying out a number of active lines of enquiry around that and that still remains an active.
"Though my absolute statement is, we if could bring people to justice we would do and the moment we have an active criminal investigation."
Do they have the ability to go after the 4 suspects named by the IRA chief from Dublin?
Would it be possible to arrest Seamus McLoughlin, Mick Murray, Michael Hayes and James Francis Gavin if they hold Letters of comfort from Tony Blair?
I think three are dead and as you say one has a pardon card from Tony. Alternatively arrest Tony Bliar for crimes against the nation. |
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Post by franklin66 on Apr 6, 2019 12:22:07 GMT
I think three are dead and as you say one has a pardon card from Tony. Alternatively arrest Tony Bliar for crimes against the nation. What makes me uneasy is the soldier now charged with murder could be convicted by murderers who were pardoned under the good Friday agreement. |
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