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Diouf.
Feb 20, 2019 22:59:03 GMT
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Post by jamesadams112 on Feb 20, 2019 22:59:03 GMT
After seeing it being brought up on so many different threads I think he deserves one of his own. Should he be playing up front, on the bench, as a full back or rightfully in the reserves???
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 23:01:54 GMT
He should be in the conference
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 23:14:21 GMT
Playing with the kids...actual kids like 12 or something not u23s if he could learn the basics with them like tackling, passing, controlling and then hitting a ball he would be lethal.
Send jack as well actually for goal kicks and coming for corners
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Post by Gods on Feb 20, 2019 23:31:46 GMT
3rd in our all-time Prem goal scorers list isn't he and there are no penalties in his total. It would be quite a few more had we not shifted him to full back. He's paid his dues.
1.45 Peter Crouch 2.43 Jon Walters 3.23 Mame Biram Diouf 4.22 Marko Arnautovic
I'll hazard a guess that Afobe, Berahino and Vokes get nowhere near that total for Stoke all put together even though they cost 40 million pounds and are not playing in the Prem rather twatting about in the lower echelons of the 2nd flight of the Championship.
Highlights? 2 goals in the 6-1 trouncing of Liverpool and single handedly gunned down Manchester City in their own manor. Let me know when we can say that of any of the current crop.
I appreciate he's not everyone's cup of tea with his dodgy first touch but he has contributed much to the cause and for a short'ish fella he is very decent in the air and he has genuine pace.
Heaven knows what Nathan thinks he has in his kit bag that means he can damn him from here to eternity, its a complete mystery to go with all the other mysteries of where it all went wrong.
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Post by mrcoke on Feb 20, 2019 23:54:02 GMT
In his prime Diouf was half decent, good header and natural goal poacher. If we had persisted with him as main striker, he may have scored 15 goals a season. But his first touch (with the foot) always let him down and his shooting was dire.
He has a very positive attitude and I'm sure if he was doing anything decent on the training ground the past 3 managers would have had him in the match day squad. Unfortunately Hughes spoilt him by moving him to wing, WB, and occasionally FB and since then has never looked like a striker.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Feb 21, 2019 0:01:41 GMT
When diouf had to think before he shot he virtually always fluffed his lines.
When he didn't think he was usually quite clinical.
The 2 goals he scored in the 6-1 drubbing of Liverpool are prime examples of him scoring without thinking.
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Post by neilb987 on Feb 21, 2019 0:06:26 GMT
If only his finishing was as good as his positioning and willingness to chase bad passes, he would be a good player. Unfortuneately, however, even when he gets into good positions you know he's much more likely to miss than hit the target. Mind you, he's not the only one whose finishing is dire. Step forward Mr Tom Ince ....
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Post by tosh on Feb 21, 2019 0:37:32 GMT
Don’t like to spoil a slagging off with facts - but:-
Diouf. Our third highest premier league scorer behind Crouch and Walters. Played not much more than half as many games as each of them. Scored more than Arnie on roughly same number of games. Many as winger or fullback.
Can’t judge Vokes yet. However Diouf is probably better than all our other striker options at this present time. Once again as with Bojan the manager is ignoring him and keeps on picking the failing players.
Ironically these two players are two of the few who have always given the impression they love playing for Stoke and give 100% effort for the fans and team.
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Post by roylandstoke on Feb 21, 2019 0:56:18 GMT
The thought that Jones thinks McClean is a better option than Diouf fills me with dread.
I am really finding it difficult to muster any enthusiasm (or even interest) for a club that has been a full on obsession for me for 45 years.
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Post by march4 on Feb 21, 2019 1:02:22 GMT
Diouf is the best striker at the club and should be playing.
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Diouf.
Feb 21, 2019 1:12:39 GMT
Post by kustokie on Feb 21, 2019 1:12:39 GMT
He scored a screamer against Liverpool in that 6-1 thrashing - so we know he can shoot if he doesn’t have to think about it
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Diouf.
Feb 21, 2019 3:53:32 GMT
Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 3:53:32 GMT
Playing with the kids...actual kids like 12 or something not u23s if he could learn the basics with them like tackling, passing, controlling and then hitting a ball And staying on his feet if an opponent breathes near him...
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Post by adamsson on Feb 21, 2019 7:14:01 GMT
Diouf is the best striker at the club and should be playing. He would certainly make the most chances and would give Vokes or Afobe chances as well. If nothing else he makes defenders work. Oh and he is very good at defending set pieces as well. But I suspect that he is not playing for non-football reasons.
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Feb 21, 2019 7:21:37 GMT
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Post by scfcwebby on Feb 21, 2019 7:21:37 GMT
Don’t like to spoil a slagging off with facts - but:- Diouf. Our third highest premier league scorer behind Crouch and Walters. Played not much more than half as many games as each of them. Scored more than Arnie on roughly same number of games. Many as winger or fullback. Can’t judge Vokes yet. However Diouf is probably better than all our other striker options at this present time. Once again as with Bojan the manager is ignoring him and keeps on picking the failing players. Ironically these two players are two of the few who have always given the impression they love playing for Stoke and give 100% effort for the fans and team. You can judge Vokes... He is wank
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Diouf.
Feb 21, 2019 7:43:14 GMT
Post by jeycov on Feb 21, 2019 7:43:14 GMT
If only his finishing was as good as his positioning and willingness to chase bad passes, he would be a good player. Unfortuneately, however, even when he gets into good positions you know he's much more likely to miss than hit the target. Mind you, he's not the only one whose finishing is dire. Step forward Mr Tom Ince .... And a bigger club than Stoke would have signed him by now The biggest disappointment for me is that we haven’t seen him play / given a chance in the first time since Jones has arrived
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Diouf.
Feb 21, 2019 8:06:28 GMT
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Post by femark on Feb 21, 2019 8:06:28 GMT
Maybe NJ doesn’t like the fact he’s a devout Muslim
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Diouf.
Feb 21, 2019 8:27:39 GMT
Post by robwahlmann on Feb 21, 2019 8:27:39 GMT
Diouf is the best striker at the club and should be playing. At least he should be given a couple of games alongside Vokes to prove his value. I think he is the kind of player that would suit the way NJ wants to play.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Feb 21, 2019 9:06:34 GMT
Definitely the best option as second striker amongst our current squad in the diamond and probably best wide right option in a 4-3-3
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Diouf.
Feb 21, 2019 9:12:53 GMT
Post by FullerMagic on Feb 21, 2019 9:12:53 GMT
Deserves a chance if he's at anywhere near the level we've seen from him previously. At least you know what you're getting.
But there's only Fletcher and him that haven't got a sniff of the bench under Jones, even with wasters, serial under-performers and wingers ahead of him. So there may be other factors at play that we aren't aware of.
He's played once since September, and since then we've seen Vokes, Afobe, Crouch, Campbell, McClean and Berahino play up front. But no sign of him.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Feb 21, 2019 9:19:45 GMT
Should be in the team.
Yes he spanners a few but the fact is we always look more dangerous as a team when Diouf plays up front, plus he leaves everything on the pitch.
He literally can’t be any worse than the dogshit we’ve been served up this season, another player treated like utter dirge by this club, it’s fast becoming unrecognisable.
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Feb 21, 2019 9:21:51 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 9:21:51 GMT
Maybe NJ doesn’t like the fact he’s a devout Muslim But it’s fine that Bruno is? Give it a rest.
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Feb 21, 2019 9:42:18 GMT
Post by mrred on Feb 21, 2019 9:42:18 GMT
Don't think he offers anything more than McLean to be honest, runs around "gives 100%", but has the touch of a rapist. The days of him scoring double figures are long gone, especially in a team that creates nothing. When he scored 8 the team was in it's full stride and (imo) perfectly balanced. He had the likes of Odemwingie, Arnautovic, Walters, N'Zonzi, Cameron, Adam and Whelan working behind him. Not the shitehawks we have now.
So begs the question for me is, what is McLean doing to get ahead when they offer more or less the same? Is he not putting in the work in training?
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Feb 21, 2019 9:43:21 GMT
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Post by lordb on Feb 21, 2019 9:43:21 GMT
Don’t like to spoil a slagging off with facts - but:- Diouf. Our third highest premier league scorer behind Crouch and Walters. Played not much more than half as many games as each of them. Scored more than Arnie on roughly same number of games. Many as winger or fullback. Can’t judge Vokes yet. However Diouf is probably better than all our other striker options at this present time. Once again as with Bojan the manager is ignoring him and keeps on picking the failing players. Ironically these two players are two of the few who have always given the impression they love playing for Stoke and give 100% effort for the fans and team. You can judge Vokes... He is wank He's been wank so far. However he doesn't look match fit and he's come into a side that's not making many chances. I work with Wolves fans who all say what a good player he is at Championship level, Burnley mate says the same/was upset they let him go and his record at this level is decent. As supporters we can keep writing players off after a month, absolute madness.
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Feb 21, 2019 9:48:42 GMT
Post by ursemboys on Feb 21, 2019 9:48:42 GMT
Diouf is the best striker at the club and should be playing. Ha ha that is so funny
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Diouf.
Feb 21, 2019 10:03:48 GMT
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Post by thestatusquo on Feb 21, 2019 10:03:48 GMT
The fact he’s nowhere near the squad would indicate that there is off field issues what ever they may be. But as we are struggling to buy a goal Shirley he must get a chance?
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Feb 21, 2019 10:20:37 GMT
Post by metalhead on Feb 21, 2019 10:20:37 GMT
It's a strange situation. At the end of the day, I think he's dog shit.... I think he's awful as a footballer.... however there's this huge elephant in the room. He scored 11 goals in his first season for us, in arguably the best league in the world against teams like Manchester City.... and let's not forget that was before the 'Stokealona' thing. I don't believe you can do that on luck alone. I just wonder if he lost it after his parents were killed Horrible to say.
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Diouf.
Feb 21, 2019 10:26:11 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 10:26:11 GMT
It's a strange situation. At the end of the day, I think he's dog shit.... I think he's awful as a footballer.... however there's this huge elephant in the room. He scored 11 goals in his first season for us, in arguably the best league in the world against teams like Manchester City.... and let's not forget that was before the 'Stokealona' thing. I don't believe you can do that on luck alone. I just wonder if he lost it after his parents were killed Horrible to say. I don’t think he’s lost it but he’s had a rough ride hasnt he. Couple that with being made to play right wing back and all the pressure being on him last season and it’s all a bit much really. Again, we go out of our way to try to rehabilitate that useless waste of space Berahino and someone like Mame, who never ever gives anything less than 100 per cent for the shirt, and has had horrible time personally not of any of his own making, is seemingly pushed out. Absolutely baffling. Fucking hate how this club is treating some of our players at the moment.
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Feb 21, 2019 10:28:13 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 10:28:13 GMT
Diouf is the best striker at the club and should be playing. Ha ha that is so funny True though. Completely unbelievable that that’s the situation we are in and a more damning indictment of the other frauds than anything else. But true.
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Feb 21, 2019 10:46:36 GMT
Post by roylandstoke on Feb 21, 2019 10:46:36 GMT
Diouf is the best striker at the club and should be playing. Ha ha that is so funny I am aware that your comment is meant to be disparaging to Diouf and also to march's post so I won't ask "Why?". I would be interested to hear who you think does deserve the title "club's best striker".
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Feb 21, 2019 11:49:29 GMT
Post by ursemboys on Feb 21, 2019 11:49:29 GMT
I am aware that your comment is meant to be disparaging to Diouf and also to march's post so I won't ask "Why?". I would be interested to hear who you think does deserve the title "club's best striker". At the moment nobody does but it definitely is not Diouf ,i would hate to see him playing in this side he was poor even with good players around him . On Paper it should be Afobe but what can i say ,any striker in our current set up would struggle get goals .
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