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Post by salopstick on Feb 14, 2019 8:46:48 GMT
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Post by felonious on Feb 14, 2019 8:51:49 GMT
Frankly it's a fairly stupid and foolish thing to say...... like most things that come out of his mouth.
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 14, 2019 9:04:12 GMT
And just think the third rate Poundland Lenin is the one with his fist up corbyn’s arse moving his lips
Worrying times
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Post by pearo on Feb 14, 2019 9:18:54 GMT
Micky Mouse wears a John McDonnell watch
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 14, 2019 10:04:12 GMT
All he had to say was that Churchill was a flawed hero, and did some good and some bad. A massive blunder just jumping in like that, giving ammunition to the Tories and moderate Labour voters.
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Post by redstriper on Feb 14, 2019 10:42:07 GMT
Trapped into a one word answer to a complex question, an amateurish politician.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Feb 14, 2019 11:09:47 GMT
Trapped into a one word answer to a complex question, an amateurish politician. Spot on. Stupid question, stupid answer. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 14, 2019 11:15:47 GMT
I know what I'd call a bloke that turns a nation's armed forces on people fighting for their jobs, livelihood and family.
A cunt.
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 14, 2019 11:21:49 GMT
I know what I'd call a bloke that turns a nation's armed forces on people fighting for their jobs, livelihood and family. A cunt. Maduro ? |
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Post by upthefud on Feb 14, 2019 11:41:27 GMT
I know what I'd call a bloke that turns a nation's armed forces on people fighting for their jobs, livelihood and family. A cunt. Macron? |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 14, 2019 11:43:20 GMT
Yes and yes. And Churchill.
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Post by thevoid on Feb 14, 2019 12:03:46 GMT
IRA-loving cunt.
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Post by trentvale68 on Feb 14, 2019 12:17:20 GMT
Aah, another Labour bashing thread. McDonells comments are poorly worded it has to be said though. He's trying to say Churchill was no Mr nice guy but Mr nice guys of course don't win wars. Unfortunately in a tory/right wing leaning media environment, every little faux pas is amplified. Personally fed up with both parties really, desire a government in the centre ground instead of lurching to the extreme left or right. I can empathise with people on Corbyn and McDonell and related concerns but at the same time, I'm baffled by the mostly tory love in on here; they might be okay if your life is going fine but fall on hard times, lose your job or god forbid fall seriously ill and end up disabled and it will soon become apparent how much they really care about you. They don't give a fuck about ordinary folk.
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 14, 2019 12:34:08 GMT
I know what I'd call a bloke that turns a nation's armed forces on people fighting for their jobs, livelihood and family. A cunt. A flawed cunt. Surely? |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 14, 2019 12:38:00 GMT
Some other things Churchill has said and done
"I hate Indians,they are a beastly people with a beastly religion."
"Palestinians are barbaric hordes who ate little but camel dung"
"When quashing insurgents in Sudan in the earlier days of his imperial career, Churchill boasted of killing three "savages."
Contemplating restive populations in northwest Asia, he infamously lamented the "squeamishness" of his colleagues, who were not in "favor of using poisoned gas against uncivilized tribes."
Churchill had cheered on Britain's plan for more conquests, insisting that its "Aryan stock is bound to triumph"
On Ghandi - 'a half-naked seditious fakir"
Most notoriously, Churchill presided over the hideous 1943 famine in Bengal, where some 3 million Indians perished, largely as a result of British imperial mismanagement. Churchill was both indifferent to the Indian plight and even mocked the millions suffering, chuckling over the culling of a population that bred "like rabbits."
Yeah, I'll go with villain.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 14, 2019 12:40:25 GMT
Aah, another Labour bashing thread. McDonells comments are poorly worded it has to be said though. He's trying to say Churchill was no Mr nice guy but Mr nice guys of course don't win wars. Unfortunately in a tory/right wing leaning media environment, every little faux pas is amplified. Personally fed up with both parties really, desire a government in the centre ground instead of lurching to the extreme left or right. I can empathise with people on Corbyn and McDonell and related concerns but at the same time, I'm baffled by the mostly tory love in on here; they might be okay if your life is going fine but fall on hard times, lose your job or god forbid fall seriously ill and end up disabled and it will soon become apparent how much they really care about you. They don't give a fuck about ordinary folk. I'm not sure Labour do any more. They don't seem to be listening to ordinary folks concerns about immigration, which let's be honest, was a big driver in Brexit. |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 14, 2019 12:42:22 GMT
Some other things Churchill has said and done "I hate Indians,they are a beastly people with a beastly religion." "Palestinians are barbaric hordes who ate little but camel dung" "When quashing insurgents in Sudan in the earlier days of his imperial career, Churchill boasted of killing three "savages." Contemplating restive populations in northwest Asia, he infamously lamented the "squeamishness" of his colleagues, who were not in "favor of using poisoned gas against uncivilized tribes." Churchill had cheered on Britain's plan for more conquests, insisting that its "Aryan stock is bound to triumph" On Ghandi - 'a half-naked seditious fakir" Most notoriously, Churchill presided over the hideous 1943 famine in Bengal, where some 3 million Indians perished, largely as a result of British imperial mismanagement. Churchill was both indifferent to the Indian plight and even mocked the millions suffering, chuckling over the culling of a population that bred "like rabbits." Yeah, I'll go with villain. Fair enough. What about Adams and McGuinness? |
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Post by felonious on Feb 14, 2019 12:43:15 GMT
I know what I'd call a bloke that turns a nation's armed forces on people fighting for their jobs, livelihood and family. A cunt. Interesting I didn't know the story apart from the basic headline. Have a read.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonypandy_riots
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 14, 2019 12:46:21 GMT
Some other things Churchill has said and done "I hate Indians,they are a beastly people with a beastly religion." "Palestinians are barbaric hordes who ate little but camel dung" "When quashing insurgents in Sudan in the earlier days of his imperial career, Churchill boasted of killing three "savages." Contemplating restive populations in northwest Asia, he infamously lamented the "squeamishness" of his colleagues, who were not in "favor of using poisoned gas against uncivilized tribes." Churchill had cheered on Britain's plan for more conquests, insisting that its "Aryan stock is bound to triumph" On Ghandi - 'a half-naked seditious fakir" Most notoriously, Churchill presided over the hideous 1943 famine in Bengal, where some 3 million Indians perished, largely as a result of British imperial mismanagement. Churchill was both indifferent to the Indian plight and even mocked the millions suffering, chuckling over the culling of a population that bred "like rabbits." Yeah, I'll go with villain. Fair enough. What about Adams and McGuinness? Terrorists, who had a major role in brining peace. Churchill was a racist certainly, arguably a terrorist who was a superb and strong war time leader. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 14, 2019 12:48:11 GMT
I know what I'd call a bloke that turns a nation's armed forces on people fighting for their jobs, livelihood and family. A cunt. Interesting I didn't know the story apart from the basic headline. Have a read.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonypandy_riots
 "Know your place you damned welsh savages or I'll shoot you up the fucking arse" |
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 14, 2019 12:56:04 GMT
Nonce!
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 14, 2019 12:59:22 GMT
"Know your place you damned welsh savages or I'll shoot you up the fucking arse" And don't forget Gallipoli. We'd have been spared Mel Gibson if Winston hadn't fucked that up! |
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Post by felonious on Feb 14, 2019 13:00:40 GMT
"Know your place you damned welsh savages or I'll shoot you up the fucking arse" Can't see much wrong in that, have you met Salop? |
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Post by auntiegeorge on Feb 14, 2019 13:03:44 GMT
Churchill made some mistakes as a politician, some of them serious in his earlier days, and many of which he later regretted. But until John McDonell can demonstrate he has enough intellect and patriotism as Churchill had in his little finger he is in no position to criticise.
Frankly, for a here-today-gone-tomorrow politician to slander "the greatest Briton of all time" (incidentally proposed in that 2002 BBC poll by the Labour MP, Mo Mowlam) is surely nothing short of disgraceful - whatever your political leanings may be.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 14, 2019 14:31:32 GMT
Churchill made some mistakes as a politician, some of them serious in his earlier days, and many of which he later regretted. But until John McDonell can demonstrate he has enough intellect and patriotism as Churchill had in his little finger he is in no position to criticise. Frankly, for a here-today-gone-tomorrow politician to slander "the greatest Briton of all time" (incidentally proposed in that 2002 BBC poll by the Labour MP, Mo Mowlam) is surely nothing short of disgraceful - whatever your political leanings may be. He should be lionised for the Politician and Leader he became AG but even with a cursory scratch at the surface, you simply cannot lionise him as a man. |
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Feb 14, 2019 15:09:06 GMT
Some other things Churchill has said and done "I hate Indians,they are a beastly people with a beastly religion." "Palestinians are barbaric hordes who ate little but camel dung" "When quashing insurgents in Sudan in the earlier days of his imperial career, Churchill boasted of killing three "savages." Contemplating restive populations in northwest Asia, he infamously lamented the "squeamishness" of his colleagues, who were not in "favor of using poisoned gas against uncivilized tribes." Churchill had cheered on Britain's plan for more conquests, insisting that its "Aryan stock is bound to triumph" On Ghandi - 'a half-naked seditious fakir" Most notoriously, Churchill presided over the hideous 1943 famine in Bengal, where some 3 million Indians perished, largely as a result of British imperial mismanagement. Churchill was both indifferent to the Indian plight and even mocked the millions suffering, chuckling over the culling of a population that bred "like rabbits." Yeah, I'll go with villain. You left out Gallipoli. And the fact that Churchill as Chancellor in 1920 put Britain back on Gold Standard leading to mass unemployment and the great depression. A great war leader yes. |
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 14, 2019 15:10:01 GMT
Churchill made some mistakes as a politician, some of them serious in his earlier days, and many of which he later regretted. But until John McDonell can demonstrate he has enough intellect and patriotism as Churchill had in his little finger he is in no position to criticise. Frankly, for a here-today-gone-tomorrow politician to slander "the greatest Briton of all time" (incidentally proposed in that 2002 BBC poll by the Labour MP, Mo Mowlam) is surely nothing short of disgraceful - whatever your political leanings may be. He should be lionised for the Politician and Leader he became AG but even with a cursory scratch at the surface, you simply cannot lionise him as a man. I find myself in total agreement Sadly I don’t think it is possible to be a great politician and leader and a decent human being |
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Post by shangamuzo on Feb 14, 2019 15:28:57 GMT
He should be lionised for the Politician and Leader he became AG but even with a cursory scratch at the surface, you simply cannot lionise him as a man. I find myself in total agreement Sadly I don’t think it is possible to be a great politician and leader and a decent human being So what would you define as decent ? |
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Post by xchpotter on Feb 14, 2019 15:34:51 GMT
There were some flaws in Churchill, like in all great leaders. This is just a cheap shot jumping on the recent bandwagon.....maybe we should have Churchill criticed for having the audacity to face up to Nazi Germany? If this shower of shit get into Government we will get more of this and the inevitable re writing of history...just like Lenin did. Can’t wait to see the statues of Churchill, Fighter Command, Nelsons Column etc all replaced by that ISIS slag, Yasser Arafat, Gerry Adams and the like.😞😞😞
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Post by salopstick on Feb 14, 2019 15:40:17 GMT
Some other things Churchill has said and done "I hate Indians,they are a beastly people with a beastly religion." "Palestinians are barbaric hordes who ate little but camel dung" "When quashing insurgents in Sudan in the earlier days of his imperial career, Churchill boasted of killing three "savages." Contemplating restive populations in northwest Asia, he infamously lamented the "squeamishness" of his colleagues, who were not in "favor of using poisoned gas against uncivilized tribes." Churchill had cheered on Britain's plan for more conquests, insisting that its "Aryan stock is bound to triumph" On Ghandi - 'a half-naked seditious fakir" Most notoriously, Churchill presided over the hideous 1943 famine in Bengal, where some 3 million Indians perished, largely as a result of British imperial mismanagement. Churchill was both indifferent to the Indian plight and even mocked the millions suffering, chuckling over the culling of a population that bred "like rabbits." Yeah, I'll go with villain. ive read that article. All abhorrent and no excuses for them apart from the fact it was from an time when the world and the ideals of people were a lot different. |
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