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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 13, 2019 16:07:41 GMT
...switched to England.
Wonder if he'll be straight into the XI?
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Post by kurt on Feb 13, 2019 16:12:09 GMT
Wonder if he'll be straight into the XI? He should - Rice is a brilliant player
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 13, 2019 16:26:53 GMT
Another example of the me me attitude of the modern football He made his choice and chose the republic he should be made to stand by that choice
The fact he is a good footballer is nothing to do with it
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 16:28:23 GMT
I haven't read the statement but will summarise below:
"England are a better team"
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 13, 2019 16:32:41 GMT
I haven't read the statement but will summarise below: "England are a better team" You forgot to add that my agent feels it would help me maximise my future earnings
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Post by cheadlestokie on Feb 13, 2019 16:38:11 GMT
He is a young lad who has years of football ahead of him. He is allowed to change his mind. He was after all born and raised and taught his football in England.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 13, 2019 16:42:24 GMT
To be fair to him, he was born in England and has spent all his life here
And he only qualifies for Ireland through his dad's parents.
Once you've realised there's a sniff you're going to be good enough to play for England (and are only competing with Eric Dier!), you can see why he'd favour that with all the fringe benefits that are going to go with it
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Post by nott1 on Feb 13, 2019 16:43:38 GMT
Born and raised in England so why would you want to be associated with that lot?
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Feb 13, 2019 16:46:38 GMT
Another example of the me me attitude of the modern football He made his choice and chose the republic he should be made to stand by that choice The fact he is a good footballer is nothing to do with it Is it? Should he? He's just turned 20. Did you know what you wanted to do with your life at 20? He'll have agents and representatives from both FA's not to mention family blowing in his ear. So at 20 you've been out with this girl a couple of times, she's nice enough homely girl and you actually quite like her - but you're not engaged and she's not up the duff or anything - and then suddenly this super model rocks up in your life and says she really, really fancies you and knows you'll upset your current girlfriend by leaving her but she'd really really like to go round the world with you. What would you do?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 16:49:07 GMT
Players are allowed to change their minds based on the current rules but when there has been such an investment in time and money from under 16 level through to the senior team it leaves a sour taste. Maybe there should be a compensation fee applicable to the FA in question, similar to in club football.....
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Post by nott1 on Feb 13, 2019 16:55:39 GMT
Another example of the me me attitude of the modern football He made his choice and chose the republic he should be made to stand by that choice The fact he is a good footballer is nothing to do with it Is it? Should he? He's just turned 20. Did you know what you wanted to do with your life at 20? He'll have agents and representatives from both FA's not to mention family blowing in his ear. So at 20 you've been out with this girl a couple of times, she's nice enough homely girl and you actually quite like her - but you're not engaged and she's not up the duff or anything - and then suddenly this super model rocks up in your life and says she really, really fancies you and knows you'll upset your current girlfriend by leaving her but she'd really really like to go round the world with you. What would you do? Looks are not everything, the model would take a mirror to bed.
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Feb 13, 2019 17:26:09 GMT
Another example of the me me attitude of the modern football He made his choice and chose the republic he should be made to stand by that choice The fact he is a good footballer is nothing to do with it Is it? Should he? He's just turned 20. Did you know what you wanted to do with your life at 20? He'll have agents and representatives from both FA's not to mention family blowing in his ear. So at 20 you've been out with this girl a couple of times, she's nice enough homely girl and you actually quite like her - but you're not engaged and she's not up the duff or anything - and then suddenly this super model rocks up in your life and says she really, really fancies you and knows you'll upset your current girlfriend by leaving her but she'd really really like to go round the world with you. What would you do? It's the stupidity if the rules that he is allowed to switch. Had any of those caps been in a competitive game he wouldn't be allowed to. I don't see why it should be any different. Also whether you feel English or Irish is something you know when you're 20.
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 13, 2019 17:33:57 GMT
Another example of the me me attitude of the modern football He made his choice and chose the republic he should be made to stand by that choice The fact he is a good footballer is nothing to do with it Is it? Should he? He's just turned 20. Did you know what you wanted to do with your life at 20? He'll have agents and representatives from both FA's not to mention family blowing in his ear. So at 20 you've been out with this girl a couple of times, she's nice enough homely girl and you actually quite like her - but you're not engaged and she's not up the duff or anything - and then suddenly this super model rocks up in your life and says she really, really fancies you and knows you'll upset your current girlfriend by leaving her but she'd really really like to go round the world with you. What would you do? Iwould stop with my current girlfriend As I was brought up with strict moral guidelines In case you assume I’m answering a hypothetical question My ex wife walked out on me and my four sons over twenty years ago I have not touched another woman since and will not contemplate doing so until she is dead as I stand by my marriage vows before god
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Feb 13, 2019 17:46:03 GMT
Is it? Should he? He's just turned 20. Did you know what you wanted to do with your life at 20? He'll have agents and representatives from both FA's not to mention family blowing in his ear. So at 20 you've been out with this girl a couple of times, she's nice enough homely girl and you actually quite like her - but you're not engaged and she's not up the duff or anything - and then suddenly this super model rocks up in your life and says she really, really fancies you and knows you'll upset your current girlfriend by leaving her but she'd really really like to go round the world with you. What would you do? Iwould stop with my current girlfriend As I was brought up with strict moral guidelines In case you assume I’m answering a hypothetical question My ex wife walked out on me and my four sons over twenty years ago I have not touched another woman since and will not contemplate doing so until she is dead as I stand by my marriage vows before god Go and 'get yer hole' as we say in Glasgow, there's nothing morally wrong with getting your end away! As for Declan rice, he's English so should never have had the option of playing for Ireland
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 13, 2019 17:56:56 GMT
Rules need changing,you can only play for the country you were born in. If your Mother drops you in New York whilst on holiday,tough titty,USA it is then Laddie.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 13, 2019 18:25:09 GMT
Another example of the me me attitude of the modern football He made his choice and chose the republic he should be made to stand by that choice The fact he is a good footballer is nothing to do with it Is it? Should he? He's just turned 20. Did you know what you wanted to do with your life at 20? He'll have agents and representatives from both FA's not to mention family blowing in his ear. So at 20 you've been out with this girl a couple of times, she's nice enough homely girl and you actually quite like her - but you're not engaged and she's not up the duff or anything - and then suddenly this super model rocks up in your life and says she really, really fancies you and knows you'll upset your current girlfriend by leaving her but she'd really really like to go round the world with you. What would you do? I'd think of the words this week of my idol, Joe Root, that being gay is not anything to be ashamed of, and tell the bloke next door (who I had been dating secretly for months) that we should look for a flat together now that my England career (and my earning power) was about to take off!
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Post by chigstoke on Feb 13, 2019 18:28:34 GMT
Is it? Should he? He's just turned 20. Did you know what you wanted to do with your life at 20? He'll have agents and representatives from both FA's not to mention family blowing in his ear. So at 20 you've been out with this girl a couple of times, she's nice enough homely girl and you actually quite like her - but you're not engaged and she's not up the duff or anything - and then suddenly this super model rocks up in your life and says she really, really fancies you and knows you'll upset your current girlfriend by leaving her but she'd really really like to go round the world with you. What would you do? Iwould stop with my current girlfriend As I was brought up with strict moral guidelines In case you assume I’m answering a hypothetical question My ex wife walked out on me and my four sons over twenty years ago I have not touched another woman since and will not contemplate doing so until she is dead as I stand by my marriage vows before god Fuck me, this took a rather serious twist to the Declan Rice saga.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 13, 2019 18:30:43 GMT
Seriously, if someone is qualified to play for two countries, I don't see any reason why they shouldn't be able to choose either - providing they haven't played a competitive senior game for one of the countries. I didn't see many Stokies saying that Shawcross wasn't entitled to play for Wales when they were courting him a few years ago. Fair play to him for insisting he would only play for England - but I would not have thought any less of him if he had chosen to play for Wales after Hodgson hanging him out to dry as a late sub against Zlatan Ibrahimovic in a friendly game.
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Post by lordb on Feb 13, 2019 18:38:34 GMT
Very good news for England Apart from Lewis Cook (injured currently ( not sure England have this type of player other than Dier who has gone stale. Rice is a cracking player.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Feb 13, 2019 18:39:44 GMT
If he keeps Eric Dier out of the midfield then I'm all for it.
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 13, 2019 18:44:15 GMT
Another example of the me me attitude of the modern football He made his choice and chose the republic he should be made to stand by that choice The fact he is a good footballer is nothing to do with it I haven't read the statement but will summarise below: "England are a better team" You forgot to add that my agent feels it would help me maximise my future earnings You're quite happy to publicly spout these cynical claims against a young kid's character with zero evidence, and then you've got the brass to take the high ground about your "strict moral guidelines". Pffff yeah right
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 13, 2019 21:31:43 GMT
Another example of the me me attitude of the modern football He made his choice and chose the republic he should be made to stand by that choice The fact he is a good footballer is nothing to do with it You forgot to add that my agent feels it would help me maximise my future earnings You're quite happy to publicly spout these cynical claims against a young kid's character with zero evidence, and then you've got the brass to take the high ground about your "strict moral guidelines". Pffff yeah right I spouted about a strict moral upbringing in answer to a scenario I was given I will be more than happy to be proved wrong about the persuit of financial gain Maybe you could help with a list of professional footballers who have chosen to put football before money
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Post by jarvinski on Feb 13, 2019 21:37:26 GMT
Who the fuck gives a flying fuck, its a Stoke board
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 22:17:08 GMT
Who the fuck gives a flying fuck, its a Stoke board What a ridiculous statement.
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Post by shipshape on Feb 13, 2019 22:34:48 GMT
Another example of the me me attitude of the modern football He made his choice and chose the republic he should be made to stand by that choice The fact he is a good footballer is nothing to do with it You ever make any choices at that age that you wish you hadn't?
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Post by GrahamHyde on Feb 13, 2019 22:39:50 GMT
I'd rather his brother, Pilau
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Post by Cast no shadow on Feb 14, 2019 8:02:46 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2019 8:09:47 GMT
Is it? Should he? He's just turned 20. Did you know what you wanted to do with your life at 20? He'll have agents and representatives from both FA's not to mention family blowing in his ear. So at 20 you've been out with this girl a couple of times, she's nice enough homely girl and you actually quite like her - but you're not engaged and she's not up the duff or anything - and then suddenly this super model rocks up in your life and says she really, really fancies you and knows you'll upset your current girlfriend by leaving her but she'd really really like to go round the world with you. What would you do? Iwould stop with my current girlfriend As I was brought up with strict moral guidelines In case you assume I’m answering a hypothetical question My ex wife walked out on me and my four sons over twenty years ago I have not touched another woman since and will not contemplate doing so until she is dead as I stand by my marriage vows before god Obviously you can tell me to mind my own business, but I've got to ask two questions about what you've said here... Are you not divorced? Are you saying you haven't put your cock in the holiest of holies for more than 20 years?
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Post by adi on Feb 14, 2019 8:14:49 GMT
Why has he changed his allegiance? He made his choice because it was the easy route. Now he’s had a sniff he’s changed his colours.
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 14, 2019 8:19:28 GMT
Iwould stop with my current girlfriend As I was brought up with strict moral guidelines In case you assume I’m answering a hypothetical question My ex wife walked out on me and my four sons over twenty years ago I have not touched another woman since and will not contemplate doing so until she is dead as I stand by my marriage vows before god Obviously you can tell me to mind my own business, but I've got to ask two questions about what you've said here... Are you not divorced? Are you saying you haven't put your cock in the holiest of holies for more than 20 years? To be honest I probably shouldn’t of posted what I did I was having one of my more difficult days Leagly I am divorced and brought my four sons up on my own As far as I am concerned I stood up in front of god and said my vows and I will stick by them Maybe I am nothing short of a idiot but hey ho you have to believe in something
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