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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 11, 2019 14:43:58 GMT
This present lot of Stoke players,will be going back to their big houses,plastic WAGS and too busy counting the extra £30/40/50k they have just pocketed for doing the square root of fuckall,to worry about helping Stoke lose yer another game.
I honestly can't ever remember disliking a Stoke squad more.
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Post by citynickscfc on Feb 11, 2019 14:50:06 GMT
This present lot of Stoke players,will be going back to their big houses,plastic WAGS and too busy counting the extra £30/40/50k they have just pocketed for doing the square root of fuckall,to worry about helping Stoke lose yer another game. I honestly can't ever remember disliking a Stoke squad more. So many have stuff the same. I don't even want to watch them play, but they play for my team....ffs |
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Post by werrington on Feb 11, 2019 14:51:19 GMT
Jealousy is a terrible thing
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 11, 2019 14:57:35 GMT
Jealousy is a terrible thing Jealousy got nowt to do with it. I wasn't Jealous of previous Stoke squads who we're most likely earning more money than this shower of shite. |
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Post by werrington on Feb 11, 2019 14:59:51 GMT
Jealousy is a terrible thing Jealousy got nowt to do with it. I wasn't Jealous of previous Stoke squads who we're most likely earning more money than this shower of shite. We see this standard stuff when an England thread appears also Like I said |
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Post by thanksjon on Feb 11, 2019 15:16:22 GMT
I actually watched the players arrive on Saturday in a collection of Land Rovers,Porches and Jags.I don't begrudge them their pay as its a relatively short career but they are now championship players playing like first division players they should probably be in Fiestas.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 11, 2019 15:24:21 GMT
I think I’m alone in thinking that there wasn’t actually a shortage of effort on Saturday? I thought that with the possible exception of Clucas we were committed and did badly want to take something from the game, we just weren’t good enough.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 15:25:09 GMT
I think I’m alone in thinking that there wasn’t actually a shortage of effort on Saturday? I thought that with the possible exception of Clucas we were committed and did badly want to take something from the game, we just weren’t good enough. Nope. I've been saying the same. The first time I thought the majority of them were really trying albeit not amounting to much (but at the same time West Brom defend so deep and their defenders are so big that I don't think many teams have found it easy against them). |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 15:30:56 GMT
I think I’m alone in thinking that there wasn’t actually a shortage of effort on Saturday? I thought that with the possible exception of Clucas we were committed and did badly want to take something from the game, we just weren’t good enough. Nope. I thought the system worked quite well. It was the crazy amount of sloppy passes and poor crosses that let us down. Edwards needed to be playing another 10 yards up the pitch and Clucas appeared not to have either the legs or desire to get to get down the line. Get Edwards pushed up and do the same with Bauer over on the left, replete McClean with a proper forward and hopefully we’ll see week on week improvements..... |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 11, 2019 15:41:09 GMT
I think I’m alone in thinking that there wasn’t actually a shortage of effort on Saturday? I thought that with the possible exception of Clucas we were committed and did badly want to take something from the game, we just weren’t good enough. Nope. I thought the system worked quite well. It was the crazy amount of sloppy passes and poor crosses that let us down. Edwards needed to be playing another 10 yards up the pitch and Clucas appeared not to have either the legs or desire to get to get down the line. Get Edwards pushed up and do the same with Bauer over on the left, replete McClean with a proper forward and hopefully we’ll see week on week improvements..... That’s what I’d do as well, get Diouf or maybe Berahino alongside Vokes and get Bauer on the left. |
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Feb 11, 2019 15:46:41 GMT
What do you want them to do? Not go home?
Do agree though, I don't like many of our current bunch.
It's petty I know, but I did notice the only players who made sure to applaud the whole of the ground were Vokes and Batth, while the rest of them shuffled off down the tunnel.
Apart from Jack, of course, he does that pouty - look how gutted I am shit.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 15:48:32 GMT
Nope. I thought the system worked quite well. It was the crazy amount of sloppy passes and poor crosses that let us down. Edwards needed to be playing another 10 yards up the pitch and Clucas appeared not to have either the legs or desire to get to get down the line. Get Edwards pushed up and do the same with Bauer over on the left, replete McClean with a proper forward and hopefully we’ll see week on week improvements..... That’s what I’d do as well, get Diouf or maybe Berahino alongside Vokes and get Bauer on the left. This would be my XI for Wigan if everyone was fit and available: Butland Edwards Batth Martins Indi Bauer Adam Allen Etebo Ince Vokes Diouf I could live with Bojan for Ince as well..... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 15:50:05 GMT
What do you want them to do? Not go home? Do agree though, I don't like many of our current bunch. It's petty I know, but I did notice the only players who made sure to applaud the whole of the ground were Vokes and Batth, while the rest of them shuffled off down the tunnel. Apart from Jack, of course, he does that pouty - look how gutted I am shit. In the good old days players simply wandered the streets until the next game after a defeat, thinking about how they’d let themselves, their family and the fans down. You just don’t get that with the modern day footballer.... |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 11, 2019 15:53:41 GMT
What do you want them to do? Not go home? Do agree though, I don't like many of our current bunch. It's petty I know, but I did notice the only players who made sure to applaud the whole of the ground were Vokes and Batth, while the rest of them shuffled off down the tunnel. Apart from Jack, of course, he does that pouty - look how gutted I am shit. Did the crowd’s performance warrant a round of applause from the players? |
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Post by werrington on Feb 11, 2019 16:04:50 GMT
I think I’m alone in thinking that there wasn’t actually a shortage of effort on Saturday? I thought that with the possible exception of Clucas we were committed and did badly want to take something from the game, we just weren’t good enough. All this “ they don’t give a fuck” nonsense ( as with England ) grinds my gears mate Of course they give a fuck, they want to win things, get noticed and play at the highest level but sometimes players just for whatever reason aren’t good enough Another club another manager etc can see players rejuvenated but fuck me of course they care |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 16:49:07 GMT
I actually watched the players arrive on Saturday in a collection of Land Rovers,Porches and Jags.I don't begrudge them their pay as its a relatively short career but they are now championship players playing like first division players they should probably be in Fiestas. This whole ‘short career’ thing really annoys me. Ok, their football career is relatively short but it’s not the end of their life. Very soon I’ll be too old to continue in my very active job. Physically I’ll struggle to carry on so I’ll have to seek alternative employment until I can afford to retire. Why are footballers deemed to be different than the rest of us ? It’s not like their legs fall off is it... |
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Post by jarvinski on Feb 11, 2019 17:02:21 GMT
Fucking DIEUF, you need a visit from the little green bus, it’s a good job Cheddleton has shut
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 17:09:06 GMT
Fucking DIEUF, you need a visit from the little green bus, it’s a good job Cheddleton has shut Who’s Dieuf? |
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Post by tricky on Feb 11, 2019 17:26:41 GMT
Jealousy is a terrible thing Jealousy got nowt to do with it. I wasn't Jealous of previous Stoke squads who we're most likely earning more money than this shower of shite. It’s not jealousy, it’s more you feel short changed. Wage is generally an indicator of performance level. For the money paid, we should be expecting more |
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Post by somersetstokie on Feb 11, 2019 18:11:40 GMT
Nathan believes he can see light at the end of the tunnel after recent games. Well the same could be said of Harecastle up near Kidsgrove but I still think its quite stressful to experience it if you're not used to it.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Feb 12, 2019 8:00:52 GMT
I actually watched the players arrive on Saturday in a collection of Land Rovers,Porches and Jags.I don't begrudge them their pay as its a relatively short career but they are now championship players playing like first division players they should probably be in Fiestas. The short career argument doesn’t wash with me at all. Maybe years ago when players were earning a few hundred quid a week. But these days a bang average championship player can earn more in a week than many of us earn in a year. Extrapolate that to PL players and some of them earn more in a few months than many do in a lifetime. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 8:07:57 GMT
I think I’m alone in thinking that there wasn’t actually a shortage of effort on Saturday? I thought that with the possible exception of Clucas we were committed and did badly want to take something from the game, we just weren’t good enough. All this “ they don’t give a fuck” nonsense ( as with England ) grinds my gears mate Of course they give a fuck, they want to win things, get noticed and play at the highest level but sometimes players just for whatever reason aren’t good enough Another club another manager etc can see players rejuvenated but fuck me of course they care Yeah, but you know deep down as a player, if you’ve got even half a brain, playing for Stoke City you’re not going to win anything, are you?? So, players might want to win individual games, for whatever reason, but you can’t argue that ‘they care because they want to win things’. Maybe indirectly, them and Stoke playing well at whatever level they’re at, may get them a move to somewhere they’re more likely to win things, ie Shaqiri, N’Zonzi, and Arnautovic. We’ll have players that don’t give a shit about this club. |
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Post by Absolution on Feb 12, 2019 8:11:08 GMT
I actually watched the players arrive on Saturday in a collection of Land Rovers,Porches and Jags.I don't begrudge them their pay as its a relatively short career but they are now championship players playing like first division players they should probably be in Fiestas. The short career argument doesn’t wash with me at all. Maybe years ago when players were earning a few hundred quid a week. But these days a bang average championship player can earn more in a week than many of us earn in a year. Extrapolate that to PL players and some of them earn more in a few months than many do in a lifetime. Ramsey will do that in a couple of weeks. |
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Post by werrington on Feb 12, 2019 8:17:52 GMT
All this “ they don’t give a fuck” nonsense ( as with England ) grinds my gears mate Of course they give a fuck, they want to win things, get noticed and play at the highest level but sometimes players just for whatever reason aren’t good enough Another club another manager etc can see players rejuvenated but fuck me of course they care Yeah, but you know deep down as a player, if you’ve got even half a brain, playing for Stoke City you’re not going to win anything, are you?? So, players might want to win individual games, for whatever reason, but you can’t argue that ‘they care because they want to win things’. Maybe indirectly, them and Stoke playing well at whatever level they’re at, may get them a move to somewhere they’re more likely to win things, ie Shaqiri, N’Zonzi, and Arnautovic. We’ll have players that don’t give a shit about this club. Of course they aren’t likely to win things at Stoke but it doesn’t mean they don’t want too or try to do it or get noticed so they can further their career |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 12, 2019 8:34:02 GMT
Blimey. If Saturday wasn't too bad and constituted any form of progress, I'll gird my loins for another 23 years out of the big time
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Post by lawrieleslie on Feb 12, 2019 12:03:41 GMT
The short career argument doesn’t wash with me at all. Maybe years ago when players were earning a few hundred quid a week. But these days a bang average championship player can earn more in a week than many of us earn in a year. Extrapolate that to PL players and some of them earn more in a few months than many do in a lifetime. Ramsey will do that in a couple of weeks. I rest my case m'lord. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 12:16:09 GMT
I think I’m alone in thinking that there wasn’t actually a shortage of effort on Saturday? I thought that with the possible exception of Clucas we were committed and did badly want to take something from the game, we just weren’t good enough. Nope. I thought the system worked quite well. It was the crazy amount of sloppy passes and poor crosses that let us down. Edwards needed to be playing another 10 yards up the pitch and Clucas appeared not to have either the legs or desire to get to get down the line. Get Edwards pushed up and do the same with Bauer over on the left, replete McClean with a proper forward and hopefully we’ll see week on week improvements..... It is lack of courage rather than lack of desire on Clucas' part. He, and others, but he the most is so scared of making a mistake that could prove costly that he stays behind. Clucas, if you recall, is not one of those who have a contract signed while we were in the PL. Moreover he is being asked to play in a position that he doesn't really fancy, but he is in no position to decline. Nor are we. Bauer is not good defensively as a right back, so do we really want to risk having him on the left. I think not. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 12:35:49 GMT
Nope. I thought the system worked quite well. It was the crazy amount of sloppy passes and poor crosses that let us down. Edwards needed to be playing another 10 yards up the pitch and Clucas appeared not to have either the legs or desire to get to get down the line. Get Edwards pushed up and do the same with Bauer over on the left, replete McClean with a proper forward and hopefully we’ll see week on week improvements..... It is lack of courage rather than lack of desire on Clucas' part. He, and others, but he the most is so scared of making a mistake that could prove costly that he stays behind. Clucas, if you recall, is not one of those who have a contract signed while we were in the PL. Moreover he is being asked to play in a position that he doesn't really fancy, but he is in no position to decline. Nor are we. Bauer is not good defensively as a right back, so do we really want to risk having him on the left. I think not. Bauer’s emphasis would be on getting forward. And he can’t be any worse defensively than Clucas who switches off at least a couple of times a game..... |
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