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Post by gingerninja on Feb 10, 2019 16:36:00 GMT
I like Jones and think he may do well given time but he must stop this nonsense. We hardly look full of goals at the best of times, but playing a 2nd striker who never looks like scoring is bizarre to the point of folly!!. Afobe may not be Jones cup of tea but he at least knows where the net is..Come on Nathan let's sort this out.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 10, 2019 16:37:55 GMT
Yes. Pack it up, pack it in.
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Post by march4 on Feb 10, 2019 16:40:41 GMT
It simply has to be Mame up front.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 16:42:25 GMT
Yes the experiment must stop. Surely this must be one thing on this board we are all agreed on...
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Feb 10, 2019 16:49:32 GMT
Agreed. Stop it NJ
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Post by fraybentos on Feb 10, 2019 16:53:53 GMT
Agreed and play our leading scorer who currently warming the bench
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Post by mrteddysalad on Feb 10, 2019 16:53:56 GMT
Bera and Vokes up front please, with Bojan playing in behind them instead of Ince, and maybe Ince back out on the wing
although I have to admit Bojan and Ince were both shite yesterday so I don't know
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 17:00:02 GMT
Bera and Vokes up front please, with Bojan playing in behind them instead of Ince, and maybe Ince back out on the wing although I have to admit Bojan and Ince were both shite yesterday so I don't know Bojan was not as shite as Ince. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 17:00:25 GMT
It simply has to be Mame up front. I agree. Bring back Diouf. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 17:01:26 GMT
It simply has to be Mame up front. I agree. Bring back Diouf. If Diouf could play football I would agree. Trouble is, he can't. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 17:06:56 GMT
Yes. Pack it up, pack it in. Let Afobe begin McClean up top? For me that’s a sin. |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Feb 10, 2019 17:15:04 GMT
McClean is wank and should have been sold in the transfer window
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 17:17:06 GMT
McClean experiment anywhere on the pitch must stop. But then, so should the Clucas experiment too.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 17:19:57 GMT
I agree. Bring back Diouf. If Diouf could play football I would agree. Trouble is, he can't. Diouf his limitations and it's very hard to move past the sitters he missed last season but none of them have proved any better. And as I've said on another thread, Diouf will run. Diouf will cause problems. And he won't be knocked of the ball easily either. He'll also give 100 per cent. for the entire game. I'm not saying bring him back because I think he's going to suddenly start scoring a load of goals for us single handly but because as a team player I think he would do more than the others to help our attack overall creating problems and spaces for Vokes, Allen for Bojan etc. |
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Post by Billybigbollox on Feb 10, 2019 17:24:19 GMT
McClean’s experiment as a footballer must stop now! Send him back to McDonald’s ASAP. He’d have 2 stars by now.
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 10, 2019 17:26:03 GMT
How NJ can't see this is a bit worrying to me.  |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Feb 10, 2019 17:26:13 GMT
Yes. Pack it up, pack it in. Vokes just jumps around  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 17:29:52 GMT
If Diouf could play football I would agree. Trouble is, he can't. Diouf his limitations and it's very hard to move past the sitters he missed last season but none of them have proved any better. And as I've said on another thread, Diouf will run. Diouf will cause problems. And he won't be knocked of the ball easily either. He'll also give 100 per cent. for the entire game. I'm not saying bring him back because I think he's going to suddenly start scoring a load of goals for us single handly but because as a team player I think he would do more than the others to help our attack overall creating problems and spaces for Vokes, Allen for Bojan etc. Only last season? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 17:34:41 GMT
Diouf his limitations and it's very hard to move past the sitters he missed last season but none of them have proved any better. And as I've said on another thread, Diouf will run. Diouf will cause problems. And he won't be knocked of the ball easily either. He'll also give 100 per cent. for the entire game. I'm not saying bring him back because I think he's going to suddenly start scoring a load of goals for us single handly but because as a team player I think he would do more than the others to help our attack overall creating problems and spaces for Vokes, Allen for Bojan etc. Only last season? That's not what I meant or said but feel free to focus on that and ignore the rest. Thank god we've got Berahino whose never missed a sitter and Afobe whose done so much for us this season. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 10, 2019 17:35:16 GMT
Bera and Vokes up front please, with Bojan playing in behind them instead of Ince, and maybe Ince back out on the wing although I have to admit Bojan and Ince were both shite yesterday so I don't know Bojan was not as shite as Ince. You must have watched a different game to me, second half Ince was the best player on the pitch. |
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Feb 10, 2019 17:39:13 GMT
McClean off, Afobe on.
Bojan behind.
Joe Allen benched.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 17:41:38 GMT
Bojan was not as shite as Ince. You must have watched a different game to me, second half Ince was the best player on the pitch. I must. I think I did to everyone to be honest reading this board because I don't think yesterday was that bad. Opinions eh?! I think he played better in the 10 minutes before Bojan came on and when Bojan came on. I actually think he plays well with Bojan. He commented on that himself earlier in the season before Bojan got completely banished. For me he just seems to go missing and is not the best option at No.10 as he is creative but he creates for himself. Bojan is the better pass spotter I think which is why I made the above comment and more of a feeder. Perhaps Jones can find a way to play them together? Who knows. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 17:42:17 GMT
It probably will, calm down.
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Post by future100 on Feb 10, 2019 17:42:35 GMT
I like Jones and think he may do well given time but he must stop this nonsense. We hardly look full of goals at the best of times, but playing a 2nd striker who never looks like scoring is bizarre to the point of folly!!. Afobe may not be Jones cup of tea but he at least knows where the net is..Come on Nathan let's sort this out. Why NJ thinks that playing someone who has scored 11 goals in 158 appearances as a striker is the answer to our lack of goals is baffling. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 17:46:20 GMT
I like Jones and think he may do well given time but he must stop this nonsense. We hardly look full of goals at the best of times, but playing a 2nd striker who never looks like scoring is bizarre to the point of folly!!. Afobe may not be Jones cup of tea but he at least knows where the net is..Come on Nathan let's sort this out. Why NJ thinks that playing someone who has scored 11 goals in 158 appearances as a striker is the answer to our lack of goals is baffling. I imagine he was going it to add a bit of muscle and physicality against a very big and strong West Brom defence. I imagine it will stop very soon and I don't think its because he thinks McClean is single handedly going to score us a lot of goals. He did cause problems and kept them busy. We lost 1-0 from a stupid free kick against one of the best front lines in the league and it could have been onslaught but we were managing to sustain some pressure albeit in entirely ineffective. If it carries on then I agree it seems like NJ nutcase but you can kind of see there's some logic there and I don't think that's why he's playing him there. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 10, 2019 17:49:14 GMT
You must have watched a different game to me, second half Ince was the best player on the pitch. I must. I think I did to everyone to be honest reading this board because I don't think yesterday was that bad. Opinions eh?! I think he played better in the 10 minutes before Bojan came on and when Bojan came on. I actually think he plays well with Bojan. He commented on that himself earlier in the season before Bojan got completely banished. For me he just seems to go missing and is not the best option at No.10 as he is creative but he creates for himself. Bojan is the better pass spotter I think which is why I made the above comment and more of a feeder. Perhaps Jones can find a way to play them together? Who knows. He does go missing tbf, I thought he did next to nothing in the first half, and yes, as you say, we weren't as bad as some are making out but apart from Edwards putting crosses in we created very little which isn't good enough, you say Bojan is the better pass spotter but in that game I can only think of one half decent one to Clucas other than that all he seemed to do was slow everything down letting West Brom to get into position, things need to improve massively going forward, we win the game if we had more creativity going forward. The positive for me was we looked more solid at the back in open play, Etebo did well covering for Clucas and BMI had a much improved game in the middle, its just going to take time and a few new midfielders that fit the system. |
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 10, 2019 17:50:28 GMT
Bera and Vokes up front please, with Bojan playing in behind them instead of Ince, and maybe Ince back out on the wing although I have to admit Bojan and Ince were both shite yesterday so I don't know Bojan was not as shite as Ince. Probably because he didn’t play as long |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 17:59:39 GMT
I must. I think I did to everyone to be honest reading this board because I don't think yesterday was that bad. Opinions eh?! I think he played better in the 10 minutes before Bojan came on and when Bojan came on. I actually think he plays well with Bojan. He commented on that himself earlier in the season before Bojan got completely banished. For me he just seems to go missing and is not the best option at No.10 as he is creative but he creates for himself. Bojan is the better pass spotter I think which is why I made the above comment and more of a feeder. Perhaps Jones can find a way to play them together? Who knows. He does go missing tbf, I thought he did next to nothing in the first half, and yes, as you say, we weren't as bad as some are making out but apart from Edwards putting crosses in we created very little which isn't good enough, you say Bojan is the better pass spotter but in that game I can only think of one half decent one to Clucas other than that all he seemed to do was slow everything down letting West Brom to get into position, things need to improve massively going forward, we win the game if we had more creativity going forward. The positive for me was we looked more solid at the back in open play, Etebo did well covering for Clucas and BMI had a much improved game in the middle, its just going to take time and a few new midfielders that fit the system. He was much better against Hull and I think no-one was moving for him so he had to keep running with the ball or go very short. It wasn't the best example but I think that's what sets him apart from Ince for the No.10 role for me but we won't know until we see him play consistently as we've only seen glimpses this season. I just dislike that the whole debate has to be Bojan v Ince because to me they are entirely different and should both play. With an actual striker in front not McClean or even Ince as the other forward. I was fully expecting an onslaught after going to West Brom away earlier in the season so I think I was pleasantly surprised that it wasn't and also I think 3/4 of them were showing more fight and effort than I've seen most of this season even though it didn't amount to much. NJ has talked about "stages" I do wonder if they are working on this bit by bit and area by area each week. I'm hoping in a couple of weeks we'll see a big improvement. I'll be happier with the approach when we have a few more points on the board between us and the relegation places, but I do like that he's trying to make them play football and no sticking 10 men behind the ball... |
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Feb 10, 2019 18:14:45 GMT
Bera and Vokes up front please, with Bojan playing in behind them instead of Ince, and maybe Ince back out on the wing although I have to admit Bojan and Ince were both shite yesterday so I don't know Bojan was not shite. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 10, 2019 18:28:26 GMT
Bera and Vokes up front please, with Bojan playing in behind them instead of Ince, and maybe Ince back out on the wing although I have to admit Bojan and Ince were both shite yesterday so I don't know Bojan was not shite. He wasn't good. |
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