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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 22:22:10 GMT
Reading won tonight making my gentle admonishing Stokies a little less extreme.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 13, 2019 23:06:59 GMT
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Post by mamathestriker on Feb 16, 2019 21:16:07 GMT
Can't win Can't score unless handed on a plate
It's not looking good is it?
11 points off the relegation zone. Surely that's enough with only 13 games left?
But still got this nagging doubt 11 points could easily become 6 in a few weeks. Then I wouldn't back us to be strong enough to get out of it.
Someone make me feel better and say we are safe....😶
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2019 21:16:43 GMT
We are safe.
You’re welcome.....
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Post by andystokie61 on Feb 16, 2019 21:19:39 GMT
We are safe. You’re welcome..... Yes
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Post by dutchstokie on Feb 16, 2019 21:21:28 GMT
10th at best..... things willdrop into place eventually
Next season Will be the test
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Feb 16, 2019 21:21:41 GMT
Safe this year, very worried about next year.
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Post by emmbrook1956 on Feb 16, 2019 21:21:51 GMT
We need 8 or possibly 9 more points to be safe. Bolton and Ipswich I think are gone. Rotherham and Reading have 29 points. I can not see either getting more than another 17 points from the remaining games. I will look at their games. Both have to come to Stoke I believe, so one may feel both are six pointers.
You should not lose any sleep.
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Post by telfordstoke on Feb 16, 2019 21:23:16 GMT
Can’t see them going down, enough points to be safe IMO
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Post by FrankButcher on Feb 16, 2019 21:27:40 GMT
Next season worries me, if we can't shift any of this squad and we get stuck with them we could well be facing the same fate as Sunderland! The players have big contracts and I feel They'll be hard to shift as nobody will want them.
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Feb 16, 2019 21:35:05 GMT
Short answer yes we could get dragged into the scrap at the bottom on current form. If we lose the next 2 home games we are in big shit Ipswich & Bolton look doomed but Rotherham & Reading have a chance of getting out of trouble & both come to us.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 16, 2019 21:36:10 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 16, 2019 21:38:06 GMT
Reading v Rotherham next week
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Post by stokeuk474 on Feb 16, 2019 21:40:57 GMT
I'm not sitting too comfortably yet, but we should be fine with 2 wins I think.
I've been looking at what teams have stayed up with over the last few years, and 50 should guarantee it, but last year I think 21st stayed up with 43, although Blackburn got relegated a few years back with 51!
But looking at what teams down there are on at the moment, they're going at around a point a game, so based on 46 games, I can't see any of them getting more than about 45.
Having said that, we've only won 1 in 9? So without a couple of wins, our form could definitely drag us into it.
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Post by smallthorner on Feb 16, 2019 21:46:01 GMT
Next season worries me, if we can't shift any of this squad and we get stuck with them we could well be facing the same fate as Sunderland! The players have big contracts and I feel They'll be hard to shift as nobody will want them. Yes. This big "clear out in the summer" mantra could be absolute nothing. Exactly who could be going? Over half the team are recent signings on relatively good contracts. The rest are dead wood that nobody wants.. It's a bloody scary thought actually.
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Post by robstokie on Feb 16, 2019 22:14:49 GMT
We still could, Definetly. Can't create, sit off teams who on paper at least are far worse than ourselves, lack any leadership on the field (apart from maybe Batth) and are full of fucking mercenaries who won't even put in half a fucking shift for the cause...
Think we'll just about keep clear this season, but next season could be horrendous, especially if we keep Scholes and Cartwright, don't do the root and branch clear-out we need and bring in more Cartwright inspired signings who are past it or couldn't give two fucks...
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Post by lordb on Feb 16, 2019 22:33:14 GMT
Eleven points from play offs, eleven points from drop zone
Is anyone is seriously suggesting we won't be playing Championship football next season?
We are on a shocking run and still comfortably clear. That's how bad this league is.
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Post by onionman on Feb 17, 2019 1:21:30 GMT
There are some uncomfortable parallels with this season and 1997-98. In 1997-98, we sacked a mediocre manager in the new year, and replaced him with a risky but popular young appointment. After 31 games, we were lower mid-table on 33 points, and with the feeling of freefall. We ended up relegated on 46 points, 4 points short of safety. This year after 31 games we are lower mid-table on 38 points, and with the feeling of freefall. We are 5 points better off than in 1998 at this stage, so if we continue the parallel we will stay up by 1 point. 1998 after 33 games: 35 points 2019 after 33 games: 40 points We remain 5 points ahead of the 1998 haul (which itself was 4 points short of safety). Interestingly our 32nd game in 1998 was a disappointing 0-0 draw at relegation threatened Bury. In our 33rd game Kamara looked like he was finally going to get a much needed win against Forest, but we conceded a stupid set piece goal at the death.
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Post by Absolution on Feb 17, 2019 1:35:11 GMT
There are some uncomfortable parallels with this season and 1997-98. In 1997-98, we sacked a mediocre manager in the new year, and replaced him with a risky but popular young appointment. After 31 games, we were lower mid-table on 33 points, and with the feeling of freefall. We ended up relegated on 46 points, 4 points short of safety. This year after 31 games we are lower mid-table on 38 points, and with the feeling of freefall. We are 5 points better off than in 1998 at this stage, so if we continue the parallel we will stay up by 1 point. 1998 after 33 games: 35 points 2019 after 33 games: 40 points We remain 5 points ahead of the 1998 haul (which itself was 4 points short of safety). Interestingly our 32nd game in 1998 was a disappointing 0-0 draw at relegation threatened Bury. In our 33rd game Kamara looked like he was finally going to get a much needed win against Forest, but we conceded a stupid set piece goal at the death. We're 11 points above 3rd from bottom. After 33 games in 1998 we were 2 points above.
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Post by onionman on Feb 17, 2019 1:41:49 GMT
1998 after 33 games: 35 points 2019 after 33 games: 40 points We remain 5 points ahead of the 1998 haul (which itself was 4 points short of safety). Interestingly our 32nd game in 1998 was a disappointing 0-0 draw at relegation threatened Bury. In our 33rd game Kamara looked like he was finally going to get a much needed win against Forest, but we conceded a stupid set piece goal at the death. We're 11 points above 3rd from bottom. After 33 games in 1998 we were 2 points above. Ok that’s quite reassuring. Shame our only reassurance is that the bottom teams are unusually bad though, especially when we can’t even beat them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 4:00:46 GMT
We still could, Definetly. Can't create, sit off teams who on paper at least are far worse than ourselves, lack any leadership on the field (apart from maybe Batth) and are full of fucking mercenaries who won't even put in half a fucking shift for the cause... Think we'll just about keep clear this season, but next season could be horrendous, especially if we keep Scholes and Cartwright, don't do the root and branch clear-out we need and bring in more Cartwright inspired signings who are past it or couldn't give two fucks... I agree, especially about last season. I actually don't believe that Scholes and Cartwright are the root of the problem. they sign decent enough players, we just turn them into morons. Anyway we actually should be pleased about yesterday's result. While we did move one point further away from relegation, the teams we have to make sure we finish above, Bolton and Reading, took heavy defeats. But it could still happen...
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 17, 2019 9:19:18 GMT
I'm not sitting too comfortably yet, but we should be fine with 2 wins I think. I've been looking at what teams have stayed up with over the last few years, and 50 should guarantee it, but last year I think 21st stayed up with 43, although Blackburn got relegated a few years back with 51! But looking at what teams down there are on at the moment, they're going at around a point a game, so based on 46 games, I can't see any of them getting more than about 45. Having said that, we've only won 1 in 9? So without a couple of wins, our form could definitely drag us into it. If Jones maintains his form since he took over for the remainder of the season, then (if my maths are correct) we should finish on 49 points.
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