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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 16:05:43 GMT
absolutely ludicrous thread Not really, 5 losses out of 6 isn’t mid table form, we need to start picking up some points.
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Post by stokeson on Feb 10, 2019 16:15:05 GMT
Good job Rowett got us some points in the bag....why did we get rid of him ? ;-) He upset the fans with talk of tactics and suchlike instead of talking about what a big job this is and how it will take a couple of season to sort out" oh and he didn't manage Luton Town which is the touchstone of all Stoke fans of what we should aspire to.......
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Post by silsdenstokie on Feb 10, 2019 17:12:06 GMT
We shouldn't but fuck me, the way we are playing at the moment you wonder where the next points are coming from
Luckily there appears to be worse teams who should keep us out of it
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Post by silverdollar on Feb 10, 2019 17:15:42 GMT
what do people think of the chance of us getting relegated, a lot of the teams around us are picking up a few points, we cannot even score or scrape a draw at the moment .I can't see where our next points are coming from. Do you still wet your bed?
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Post by Gods on Feb 10, 2019 17:24:06 GMT
We can't go down although we have gone from very mediocre to complete freefall under the new stewardship.
I keep hearing our decline will shortly be arrested by some proven 'process ' or other, let's hope it works, whatever it may be !
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Post by robstokie on Feb 10, 2019 18:51:55 GMT
Think we need to pick up at least 1 win in the next 2 - ideally 4 points at least from 2 away games that are very winnable. If we lose both, and someone down there picks up a few results, well, it's going to be squeaky bum time. As it goes, I think we will be just about ok for this season - there are at least 4 sides I would say are worse than us - Ipswich, Bolton, Reading and Rotherham, none of which I can see getting much more than 40 points at a push - meaning 2 or 3 wins (particularly if they come in those games we have left against them this season) should secure survival even if we pretty much lost the rest.
The real worry comes next season - if we don't clear the decks and bring in enough decent players who have the right mentality, and we are stuck with the same losers with the same mentality, we could be in deep shit, particularly if we have another slow start
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Post by Scrotnig on Feb 10, 2019 19:00:48 GMT
We will be ok as long clubs like the bottom club, Ipswich, don't start suddenly picking up points against teams much higher than them in the table, or anything.
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Post by heworksardtho on Feb 10, 2019 19:34:42 GMT
what do people think of the chance of us getting relegated, a lot of the teams around us are picking up a few points, we cannot even score or scrape a draw at the moment .I can't see where our next points are coming from. More chance of me bedding Kelly Brook 😎
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Post by spikey2972 on Feb 10, 2019 19:35:51 GMT
what do people think of the chance of us getting relegated, a lot of the teams around us are picking up a few points, we cannot even score or scrape a draw at the moment .I can't see where our next points are coming from. Do you still wet your bed?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 20:30:50 GMT
I don’t think Jones is an idiot. He’s trying to make them play football. If it’s gets to the point we need to shut up shop and bash out a few draws and scrape a 1-0 then I expect he will set us up to do that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 20:33:15 GMT
Absolutely no chance.
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Feb 10, 2019 20:42:09 GMT
I don't know what all the fuss is about
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Post by sheds1862 on Feb 10, 2019 20:52:03 GMT
absolutely ludicrous thread Not really, 5 losses out of 6 isn’t mid table form, we need to start picking up some points. 12 points clear. That would take probably at least 7 games to turn around , even if only got 3 points from the next 21 , Reading aren't suddenly going to win 5 from 7. As crap as things are going there is not a prayer of relegation
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Post by Absolution on Feb 10, 2019 20:52:42 GMT
Good job Rowett got us some points in the bag....why did we get rid of him ? ;-) He upset the fans with talk of tactics and suchlike instead of talking about what a big job this is and how it will take a couple of season to sort out" oh and he didn't manage Luton Town which is the touchstone of all Stoke fans of what we should aspire to....... If you think winning loads of games, scoring loads of goals and winning promotion isn't worth aspiring to, I'm not sure what it is you're aiming at.
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Post by skelman on Feb 10, 2019 22:47:19 GMT
22nd in the current form table based on the last 6 games and 23rd based on the last 8 - with just Ipswich below us! I would hope the arrogance wouldn't lead to a "we're too good to go down" comment from within the club!
Wouldn't bet heavily that we could finish in the top 6 of Div 1 right now.
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Post by musik on Feb 11, 2019 0:24:32 GMT
what do people think of the chance of us getting relegated The "chance" of being relegated simply isn't there. It's a very small risk though. 😉
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 3:56:13 GMT
I've said in a previous thread, whilst the ten match unbeaten run was not embraced with any real enthusiasm, it did net 18 points and is probably the difference between the odd glance over or shoulder right now, rather than repeated nervous looks.
Take those ten matches away, we've won 5 games of 21, for a total of 20 points. That is dancing with relegation, and it captures 66% of our season.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 4:10:26 GMT
We shouldn't but fuck me, the way we are playing at the moment you wonder where the next points are coming from Luckily there appears to be worse teams who should keep us out of it Those teams are starting to pick up points, unlike we. We're in trouble if we think we're safe, that we cant go down; because we can, until we are mathematically safe.
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Post by djduncanjames on Feb 11, 2019 5:09:46 GMT
Benji didn't even bother posting on this thread so I'm not worried at all, not worried in the slightest. Could never happen... could it? Naw we have cracking players, need games
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Post by Rt Hon Reverend Luvpump on Feb 11, 2019 7:32:55 GMT
I had a fiver on us to be relegated @66/1 and a tenner for promotion @8/1 at the beginning of the season 😉
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Post by sheds1862 on Feb 11, 2019 8:44:00 GMT
We shouldn't but fuck me, the way we are playing at the moment you wonder where the next points are coming from Luckily there appears to be worse teams who should keep us out of it Those teams are starting to pick up points, unlike we. We're in trouble if we think we're safe, that we cant go down; because we can, until we are mathematically safe. Those teams ? When did Bolton, Ipswich or Reading last win a game. We are just scaremongering
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 9:09:51 GMT
We shouldn't but fuck me, the way we are playing at the moment you wonder where the next points are coming from Luckily there appears to be worse teams who should keep us out of it Those teams are starting to pick up points, unlike we. We're in trouble if we think we're safe, that we cant go down; because we can, until we are mathematically safe. Bolton 1 win in 21 Rotherham 1 win in 15 Reading 1 win in 15 Ipswich Town 2 wins in 19
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 11, 2019 9:12:39 GMT
Benji didn't even bother posting on this thread so I'm not worried at all, not worried in the slightest. Could never happen... could it? Naw we have cracking players, need games Sadly weeks ago I said at 250-1 I felt we were good value and and that my old friend GC is now watching with one beady eye , not circling yet but defeats in the next two and he will be sliding menacingly off the river back . Regardless Jones has to stay now it will prove equivocally while he might be naive and erratic managers aren’t the core Issue
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Post by mcw on Feb 11, 2019 9:36:44 GMT
Benji didn't even bother posting on this thread so I'm not worried at all, not worried in the slightest. Could never happen... could it? Naw we have cracking players, need games Sadly weeks ago I said at 250-1 I felt we were good value and and that my old friend GC is now watching with one beady eye , not circling yet but defeats in the next two and he will be sliding menacingly off the river back . Regardless Jones has to stay now it will prove equivocally while he might be naive and erratic managers aren’t the core Issue Tell GC to stay where he is and focus his attention on Reading, Rotherham, Bolton and Ipswich- I know he is a greedy opportunistic so and so but feasting on the same carcass year after year is surely unpalatable- must want some fresh meat? Have to stick with Jones now- unless he turns out to be a complete basket case- to completely rip up the playbook and start again. That will start in earnest next transfer window and progress will depend on how many of the bloated premier league hangers on we can ship off to unsuspecting mugs. Don't think we will get relegated unless there is a collapse of biblical scale, but I think there needs to be a realignment at the top and within the management/player ranks to acknowledge we are where we are on merit and we are in a scrap. All this "we are looking at the play-offs", well it is hard to swallow, embarrassing and borderline narcissistic!
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Post by sheds1862 on Feb 11, 2019 9:54:27 GMT
Those teams are starting to pick up points, unlike we. We're in trouble if we think we're safe, that we cant go down; because we can, until we are mathematically safe. Bolton 1 win in 21 Rotherham 1 win in 15 Reading 1 win in 15 Ipswich Town 2 wins in 19 Cheers mate, should put this thread to bed now unless someone thinks one of them will have title winning form .
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Post by cyprus1stokey on Feb 11, 2019 10:10:40 GMT
Cant see what all the fuss is about!!
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 11, 2019 10:24:41 GMT
www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/formtabelle/wettbewerb/GB2?saison_id=2018&min=24&max=32During our horrific form since Christmas, we've actually gained a point on Ipswich. Rotherham and Bolton have not gained a point on us - and Reading have gained a massive 3 points. Talk of relegation is silly. I like Benji, but it's probably time to give him his own relegation thread where he can predict doom at his leisure. We're 200/1 for a reason. As a comparison, you can currently get 100/1 on Benik Afobe to be Championship top scorer!
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 11, 2019 10:38:14 GMT
Those teams are starting to pick up points, unlike we. We're in trouble if we think we're safe, that we cant go down; because we can, until we are mathematically safe. Bolton 1 win in 21 Rotherham 1 win in 15 Reading 1 win in 15 Ipswich Town 2 wins in 19 Plus there is every chance that Bolton will go into Administration and lose a further shed load of points and it's also possible Birmingham will be deducted 10+ points for breach of FFP which would take them back into the mix. I accept it's ridiculous we should be even thinking about this shit but these are the facts rather than somebody's wet dream fantasy of the 'real chance' of our relegation.
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Post by mrred on Feb 11, 2019 10:52:39 GMT
We shouldn't given the poor standard of the league, but there's no way any squad can maintain these sort of results without looking over their shoulder.
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Post by mcw on Feb 11, 2019 10:58:11 GMT
We shouldn't given the poor standard of the league, but there's no way any squad can maintain these sort of results without looking over their shoulder. Agree, think we fortunately have enough in the tank to avoid it this year round but that is only due to the incredibly poor form of the bottom three. As someone else has pointed out, that 10 match unbeaten run although soul destroying could be Rowett's only beneficial legacy to the club. The squad should be ashamed however about this season and instead of persisting with this mantra of we are too good to be where we are (which was an attitude which had a hand to play in the sleep walk towards our relegation from the premier league), should be focusing on the here and now and doing it with a bit of humility. I understand that players need building up, but come on it is borderline narcissism to be talking about the play-offs still.
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