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Post by RT-SCFC on Feb 9, 2019 22:49:20 GMT
Embarrassing that people actually boo when we pass the ball backwards, keeping the ball is a massive part of football and at times you do need to go backwards to go forward. Stick with NJ and his ideas and good times will come.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 22:51:17 GMT
Embarrassing that people actually boo when we pass the ball backwards, keeping the ball is a massive part of football and at times you do need to go backwards to go forward. Stick with NJ and his ideas and good times will come. We've been booing back passes for years, it's nothing new. Remember that Spurs game ? Back pass, fans booed, keeper hoofed it we scored😊 |
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Post by nottsover60 on Feb 9, 2019 22:56:00 GMT
Some people are waiting for the first opportunity to boo. Reminds me of going to Bolton when my son was at uni. The fans provided us with more entertainment than the match. They moaned and booed from the moment the team was announced and we rarely heard a positive comment in all the matches we went to. We called them the most miserable fans in the world and had a good laugh at them. Stoke fans rival them now.
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Post by RT-SCFC on Feb 9, 2019 22:57:02 GMT
It shows a real lack of understanding of how football works though. We have a manager who wants to play good attacking football and if you aren’t prepared to go through the process of learning to play his way then we may as well have TP back
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Post by GallysGuitar on Feb 9, 2019 22:57:09 GMT
Embarrassing that people actually boo when we pass the ball backwards, keeping the ball is a massive part of football and at times you do need to go backwards to go forward. Stick with NJ and his ideas and good times will come. Completely agree. The players don’t have the confidence or the courage right now to play enough forward passes. It will come with time. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 23:00:17 GMT
It shows a real lack of understanding of how football works though. We have a manager who wants to play good attacking football and if you aren’t prepared to go through the process of learning to play his way then we may as well have TP back I don’t think it’s a lack of understanding just that there a lot on this board that do want TP back 🙈 Unfortunately it got so much worse under Rowett that I now think we are suffering a hangover from that. Not every ball is going backwards now, there are still too many than should but booing every single one is just madness. |
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Post by wearepremierleague on Feb 9, 2019 23:03:44 GMT
The difference is people who have played the game and people who haven’t is booing backpasses. Woods passed the ball back to Butland with a man on his back earlier. What is he meant to do? Cruyff turn him. Probably get tackled and cost a goal.
The problem is not passing back to the keeper, the problem is putting players in positions where it is their only option.
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Post by RT-SCFC on Feb 9, 2019 23:04:18 GMT
It shows a real lack of understanding of how football works though. We have a manager who wants to play good attacking football and if you aren’t prepared to go through the process of learning to play his way then we may as well have TP back I don’t think it’s a lack of understanding just that there a lot on this board that do want TP back 🙈 Unfortunately it got so much worse under Rowett that I now think we are suffering a hangover from that. Not every ball is going backwards now, there are still too many than should but booing every single one is just madness. I completely understand that we have been watching shite football for the past few years but NJ can only really change it when it comes to the summer and he is able to bring people into play his way. |
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Post by thehoof on Feb 9, 2019 23:04:59 GMT
Half the team can’t pass which is the crux of the problem- and a lot of our passing back ends with the ball going back to Butland, who guess what- has to hoof it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 23:06:21 GMT
Half the team can’t pass which is the crux of the problem- and a lot of our passing back ends with the ball going back to Butland, who guess what- has to hoof it. The don’t move for each other either. The midfielders are all too similar as well. It’s a big mess. |
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Post by RT-SCFC on Feb 9, 2019 23:09:17 GMT
The difference is people who have played the game and people who haven’t is booing backpasses. Woods passed the ball back to Butland with a man on his back earlier. What is he meant to do? Cruyff turn him. Probably get tackled and cost a goal. The problem is not passing back to the keeper, the problem is putting players in positions where it is their only option. Spot on, that won’t change until the summer though most likely so patience is needed. |
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Post by chamberlain on Feb 9, 2019 23:11:09 GMT
Half the team can’t pass which is the crux of the problem- and a lot of our passing back ends with the ball going back to Butland, who guess what- has to hoof it. That's right ,how many passes went behind the man so he had to check his run . |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 23:16:09 GMT
Some of the ‘fans’ are as depressing to listen to, as the football is to watch.
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Post by scfcwebby on Feb 9, 2019 23:18:47 GMT
Some people are waiting for the first opportunity to boo. Reminds me of going to Bolton when my son was at uni. The fans provided us with more entertainment than the match. They moaned and booed from the moment the team was announced and we rarely heard a positive comment in all the matches we went to. We called them the most miserable fans in the world and had a good laugh at them. Stoke fans rival them now. They don't have to wait long with the way we're playing at the moment |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 9, 2019 23:52:06 GMT
The main part of the problem for every single one of our players is a total lack of technical ability.
Their inability to control a simple ball means they have to take 2 or 3 touches where 1 should suffice and therefore are closed down by the opposition leaving the only option as a pass back.
They are almost all incapable of making the most simple passes which either put the recipient in immediate trouble, or they have to check back, or they simply just lose it.
The corners and freekicks demonstrate this total lack of technical ability perfectly. Every single one of them was wank and missed by a country mile there intended target.
You can run round all you like and line up in whatever pretty pattern you like but when you have so little actual footballing ability there is very little you can do with it.
The futility of attempting to polish turds springs to mind.
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Post by expectedtoulouse on Feb 10, 2019 0:22:43 GMT
The first boos I recall were when the hapless Woods passed back to Butland when he was inside the West Brom half.
It’s these sorts of passes which happen far too often with this group of gutless wankers so they can be absolved of any responsibility. Woods is the worst for this. He completely boils my piss. His favourite pass is back where it came from, sideways or back. Should go back to where he came from, that’s the Poplars Landfill in Cannock. Stealing a living from this club, like Clucas and others. Bit of booing is the least they deserve.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Feb 10, 2019 7:50:48 GMT
Some people are waiting for the first opportunity to boo. Reminds me of going to Bolton when my son was at uni. The fans provided us with more entertainment than the match. They moaned and booed from the moment the team was announced and we rarely heard a positive comment in all the matches we went to. We called them the most miserable fans in the world and had a good laugh at them. Stoke fans rival them now. I was commenting to a friend about the booing from the Stoke support. It reminds me of watching Stoke at Wolves in the 1990s, where the home support would moan, boo and wail If they weren’t two nil up after ten minutes. I thought “thank God we’re not like that”, well we pretty much are now. I think back to that brilliant committed support of 89/90 or 95/96 for example and think what’s happened to us? |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 10, 2019 7:54:51 GMT
I think it may be related to the fact that the opposition could play without a goalkeeper in most games we play. There is absolutely nothing wrong with passing it sideways and backwards if there is some sort of eventual pay off which there isn't with this shower of shit.
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Post by Linx on Feb 10, 2019 8:09:21 GMT
Just stop booing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 8:17:11 GMT
I was always tought that wherever you pass the ball always make sure it is in front of the player receiving the ball.
I lost count yesterday how many times the ball was behind the intended recipient meaning they had to break their stride and inevitably they then ended up facing our own goal and therefore had no option but to go backwards or sideways.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 8:18:21 GMT
I can be quite harsh at times but booing a team when a manager is trying to implement his style of play is simply stupid. The one shining light is that half the premiership fans won’t stick around next season
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Post by Frogger Theft Auto on Feb 10, 2019 8:19:17 GMT
Pulis used to say that Stoke fans would never accept any other way of playing than direct football because of the way we boo backwards passes.
Seems to be pretty unique to us.
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Post by stokiekm on Feb 10, 2019 8:22:19 GMT
It's a joke. The idiots simply don't get it, booing like this isn't going to help the team. Carry on though if your agenda is to help us get as low as possible
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Post by stokecitydom on Feb 10, 2019 8:38:03 GMT
If it was going backwards because there was nothing else on then fine.
However, time & time again, there are opportunities to play a more adventurous pass to try and make some progress up the field.
Yet we play it backwards, which results in the defenders passing around between themselves, then back to the keeper who hoofs it aimlessly and we lose possession.
I think thats why Charlie Adam looks like Modric when he played, as he isn’t frightened to play a forward positive pass.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 8:45:36 GMT
Yesterday, at times, was the first time in a long time where I thought the crowd weren't helping. The atmosphere was abysmal from the get go, which isn't a good start. We aren't in a good run so it isn't going to be swinging from the rooftops territory but even so, surely every game is a clean slate to some degree?
Then we have the rounding on players like Clucas and Woods. The latter had a good minute or so looking at one or two fans in the Tile Mountain Stand after they had a go at him for passing backwards. He literally had no option for a forward pass. Ditto Clucas earlier on in the half when he was having issues with McClean showing for the ball.
There is a fine line between a passionate crowd showing it's displeasure at a performance and completely wrecking confidence. I think we've very close to the latter.
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Post by Block 22 on Feb 10, 2019 8:53:14 GMT
If it was going backwards because there was nothing else on then fine. However, time & time again, there are opportunities to play a more adventurous pass to try and make some progress up the field. Yet we play it backwards, which results in the defenders passing around between themselves, then back to the keeper who hoofs it aimlessly and we lose possession. I think thats why Charlie Adam looks like Modric when he played, as he isn’t frightened to play a forward positive pass. Sadly, serveral of the backwards passes that were jeered yesterday were when players were in positions with no other option. It’s clear that some of our fans simply don’t understand football as a game. If it was as plain and simple as passing forward at every opportunity, we’d all be playing football. Sometimes you need to go backwards to go forwards again, it’s a simple concept, keeping possession of the football increases your chances of winning. The opposition cannot score whilst you have the ball. Our fans this season have played a huge part in our position. People forget that footballers aren’t robots, regardless how much they are paid there isn’t a magic switch to turn off your feelings. This is nothing to do with them being ‘snowflakes’ as people have replied in the past, this is simply because booing is counterproductive. It creates a vicious circle. A backwards pass gets boo’d, the next time that player gets the ball they try a riskier forward pass and lose the ball, they boo more, then the next time they play a safer pass, so they boo again. I’ve said it before and I will say it again. I can take relegation to non-league football but the fans with pre-historic ideations that clearly know fuck all about football are killing this club. The atmosphere at home matches is absolutely laughable and embarrassing almost to the point where I would rather watch it on TV. I’d never stop going because of a poor run of results but sitting amongst a bunch of fuckwits that boo every minor misplaced pass and every recycle of the ball is painful. Bunch of crayon eating, window licking bell ends. |
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Post by matelot1996 on Feb 10, 2019 8:57:13 GMT
Woods, Ince, and Allen especially are all guilty off passing backwards unnecessarily. They tend to get booed when there are forward options but still pass backwards. It graphically exposes our mentality and poor quality at the moment.
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Post by greenhoff on Feb 10, 2019 8:59:40 GMT
Half the team can’t pass which is the crux of the problem- and a lot of our passing back ends with the ball going back to Butland, who guess what- has to hoof it. This 100%. Our passing is absolutely dire. Even short passes which find their man are played in the wrong area forcing the receiving player to turn back. Make no bones about it we are bloody awful. |
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Post by gogogadget on Feb 10, 2019 9:07:27 GMT
It's a joke. The idiots simply don't get it, booing like this isn't going to help the team. Carry on though if your agenda is to help us get as low as possible Bellends |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 10, 2019 9:31:27 GMT
Half the team can’t pass which is the crux of the problem- and a lot of our passing back ends with the ball going back to Butland, who guess what- has to hoof it. The don’t move for each other either. The midfielders are all too similar as well. It’s a big mess. Brilliantly summarised by Rosenior yesterday when he showed all 3 within 5 feet of each other. No players in space. |
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