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Post by tomcmod on Feb 10, 2019 12:09:16 GMT
If we didn't pick up a yellow what colour card did Edwards get shown? Not being booked doesn't mean no character either. The ref was shocking with both teams: Livermore's tackle on Vokes was a red, Allen's tackle on Livermore was a red, Gayle did 2 bad in a few mins both should have been yellow, Woods took a man out that is normally a yellow, Etebo fouled his man expecting a booking didn't get one, Hegazy man handling of Mcclean on multiple occasions especially on the half way when he was through was worse than Edwards yellow but nothing given. Then the deliberate handball by Barry he missed for a penalty and possible yellow, although he probably did us a favour on that one... Okay I must have missed Edwards' yellow but otherwise you've missed the point. No yellow doesn't mean no character but it's damn sure an indicator. Do you think the players are fighting for the shirt? Do you think they are fighting for each other? You point about how shit the ref was is even more indication. Our players weren't even angry enough to kick off about bad decisions against them. They are apathetic. And pathetic! I think you have missed the point, they were putting in these tackles you required but the ref just didn't book them! I hate players swarming the ref they should all get booked as per the rules. After the tackle on Vokes 3 players did run to the ref to complain tbf. Including captain Batth who is allowed, they even showed this on Quest too. I thought we were poor yesterday and the formation was completely wrong but fans just love to moan about everything now.
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Post by Godo on Feb 10, 2019 12:22:56 GMT
I don't remember Etebo EVER pulling out of a 50/50!!??
I am as acutely aware as anyone that Ince or Bojan are certainly no Messi's BUT if we want them to play the #10 role properly ( so we can actually create chances, score goals etc) fans are going to have to realise that their job is to find space, be flexible link play and get closer to Vokes. They can't do that if they are tracking back ( hence Nathan's decision to play McClean up there to do the closing down). You know what if tracking back, working 'ard etc were the only key factors then teams like Rotherham and Millwall would be top 4. Let's try and be a little more sophisticated in our appreciation of the beautiful game ladies and gentlemen.
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Feb 10, 2019 12:51:51 GMT
Okay I must have missed Edwards' yellow but otherwise you've missed the point. No yellow doesn't mean no character but it's damn sure an indicator. Do you think the players are fighting for the shirt? Do you think they are fighting for each other? You point about how shit the ref was is even more indication. Our players weren't even angry enough to kick off about bad decisions against them. They are apathetic. And pathetic! I think you have missed the point, they were putting in these tackles you required but the ref just didn't book them! I hate players swarming the ref they should all get booked as per the rules. After the tackle on Vokes 3 players did run to the ref to complain tbf. Including captain Batth who is allowed, they even showed this on Quest too. I thought we were poor yesterday and the formation was completely wrong but fans just love to moan about everything now. We'll have to agree to disagree. But just read that we have come from behind to win twice in almost 4 years and have gone 117 games without scoring a winner in the last 5 minutes. More evidence that the fight and heart aren't there. You say you thought we were poor but Nathan thinks it was the best performance of the season so maybe too much moaning...
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Feb 11, 2019 2:03:29 GMT
Our best player by a mile on the night! that says a fucking lot doesn't it, he's wank and if he's our best player then fuck me we have about 5 mountains to climb.
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Post by cooper67 on Apr 23, 2019 11:55:02 GMT
Showing his football knowledge.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Apr 23, 2019 12:00:37 GMT
Showing his football knowledge. Honestly, I would love for one performance or a goal to just change my opinions on everything but when I look at this season I have to override that emotion I have.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Apr 23, 2019 12:01:19 GMT
Our best player by a mile on the night! that says a fucking lot doesn't it, he's wank and if he's our best player then fuck me we have about 5 mountains to climb. He is no Maldini (yet) but to describe him as wank is simply incorrect. He's a young lad finding his feet against a background of a club in total disarray. I would actually say he is doing very well indeed given the circumstances. Has shown more than enough in his locker to deserve to be playing in this team. I wish him well going forward and think he will become a very good player.
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Post by shrewspotter on Apr 23, 2019 12:13:51 GMT
Showing his football knowledge. Honestly, I would love for one performance or a goal to just change my opinions on everything but when I look at this season I have to override that emotion I have. seriously......I think Edwards is one of the best crossers we've had at the club, certainly better then McClean or Ince and even on par with Pennant who was terrific. I would agree he's not the finished article just yet, for example I think he could have done more for Norwichs first and he is not quick like Diouf or Pieters but to describe him as wank is way overboard
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Post by mamasgloves on Apr 23, 2019 14:05:11 GMT
Honestly, I would love for one performance or a goal to just change my opinions on everything but when I look at this season I have to override that emotion I have. seriously......I think Edwards is one of the best crossers we've had at the club, certainly better then McClean or Ince McClean and Ince are our top assisters with 6 each, Edwards has made NONE despite attempting more per game. I'm dead excited by Edwards but, as ever perspective is needed
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Post by tosh on Apr 23, 2019 15:15:34 GMT
seriously......I think Edwards is one of the best crossers we've had at the club, certainly better then McClean or Ince McClean and Ince are our top assisters with 6 each, Edwards has made NONE despite attempting more per game. I'm dead excited by Edwards but, as ever perspective is needed He’s a young developing fullback not a forward. If we’d have had a centre forward who could head a ball though, he would probably have had quite a few assists! He looks a very good prospect, and should have every encouragement.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 23, 2019 15:17:17 GMT
Showing his football knowledge. Honestly, I would love for one performance or a goal to just change my opinions on everything but when I look at this season I have to override that emotion I have. Edwards still wank?
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Post by mattador78 on Apr 23, 2019 15:55:29 GMT
The oatcake the pantheon of footballing wisdom 🤦♂️
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Apr 23, 2019 15:56:58 GMT
Honestly, I would love for one performance or a goal to just change my opinions on everything but when I look at this season I have to override that emotion I have. Edwards still wank? Yes. Like a lot of our squad. Oh yes I forgot we got a draw yesterday and Edwards scored we're by far the greatest team the world has ever seeeeeeeen.
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Post by scfcwebby on Apr 23, 2019 15:59:09 GMT
Yes. Like a lot of our squad. Oh yes I forgot we got a draw yesterday and Edwards scored we're by far the greatest team the world has ever seeeeeeeen. Go home, you're drunk
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Apr 23, 2019 16:03:12 GMT
Yes. Like a lot of our squad. Oh yes I forgot we got a draw yesterday and Edwards scored we're by far the greatest team the world has ever seeeeeeeen. Go home, you're drunk Are you forgetting this season? I think I'm the one that's eternally sober surrounded by drunken village idiots.
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Post by mattador78 on Apr 23, 2019 16:14:36 GMT
Are you forgetting this season? I think I'm the one that's eternally sober surrounded by drunken village idiots. Look Edwards is playing well for us is he the best player I’ve ever seen no but he is getting better all round. Also he a recognised England under 20’s 19’s whichever one it is can’t be arsed at the minute look it up international, the England setup now is about recognition of potential and tracking them through as seen by the promotion of the younger players in the senior team recently. At the end of the day he’s a fan like all of us living the dream and with the right handling will go further he’s already had a better career in football than all of us posting on here so let’s be happy that he’s hopefully going prove all who called him decent right and all who called him wank wrong because for the good of the club I know which I’d prefer
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Post by clarkeda on Apr 23, 2019 16:19:10 GMT
Afobe shit out of a 1v1 with the keeper too when he should have thrown himself at it
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Post by mattador78 on Apr 23, 2019 16:19:50 GMT
Afobe shit out of a 1v1 with the keeper too when he should have thrown himself at it Agreed
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Post by nik80 on Apr 23, 2019 16:29:19 GMT
Yes. Like a lot of our squad. Oh yes I forgot we got a draw yesterday and Edwards scored we're by far the greatest team the world has ever seeeeeeeen. The emergence of Tom Edwards is one of the only positives to take from this piss poor season and if Gary Rowett would have had things his way it really wouldn’t have happened. He’s been caught a couple of times but it’s clear as day that he gets better with every passing week. How you can maintain that he’s “wank” is just a bit silly really.... Take the positive mate, it’s probably the best thing to come from this season. Cuco fucking Martina indeed! 😂 Just think how shit he was and how big an injustice it was Rowett picking him and dropping Edwards first chance he got. Actually, the emergence of Tom Edwards is the second best thing to happen this season, the support getting shut of Gary fucking Rowett was top on the list.
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Post by nik80 on Apr 23, 2019 16:30:14 GMT
Afobe shit out of a 1v1 with the keeper too when he should have thrown himself at it Damn right he did, amazed this is the first I’ve seen it mentioned.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 23, 2019 16:46:32 GMT
Yes. Like a lot of our squad. Oh yes I forgot we got a draw yesterday and Edwards scored we're by far the greatest team the world has ever seeeeeeeen. Stubborn fool, you'll never admit to getting anything wrong will you?
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Apr 23, 2019 16:49:02 GMT
Yes. Like a lot of our squad. Oh yes I forgot we got a draw yesterday and Edwards scored we're by far the greatest team the world has ever seeeeeeeen. Stubborn fool, you'll never admit to getting anything wrong will you? Sorry, have I just been asleep in an endless nightmare this whole season?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 23, 2019 17:38:45 GMT
Stubborn fool, you'll never admit to getting anything wrong will you? Sorry, have I just been asleep in an endless nightmare this whole season? You said Edwards was wank 2/3 months ago and now when asked again you're maintaining that he's still wank. I think that's utter rubbish because you can't admit to being wrong. Where have I mentioned the season? I'm talking about 1 player. It's obvious we've had a shit season, I'm not discussing that here though.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Apr 23, 2019 17:41:21 GMT
Sorry, have I just been asleep in an endless nightmare this whole season? You said Edwards was wank 2/3 months ago and now when asked again you're maintaining that he's still wank. I think that's utter rubbish because you can't admit to being wrong. Where have I mentioned the season? I'm talking about 1 player. It's obvious we've had a shit season, I'm not discussing that here though. What's going to change my mind in that time? He's not good and yeah there's plenty of time for him to get better.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 23, 2019 17:53:09 GMT
You said Edwards was wank 2/3 months ago and now when asked again you're maintaining that he's still wank. I think that's utter rubbish because you can't admit to being wrong. Where have I mentioned the season? I'm talking about 1 player. It's obvious we've had a shit season, I'm not discussing that here though. What's going to change my mind in that time? He's not good and yeah there's plenty of time for him to get better. What specifically makes him not a good player, out of interest?
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Post by clarkeda on Apr 23, 2019 17:53:11 GMT
Afobe shit out of a 1v1 with the keeper too when he should have thrown himself at it Damn right he did, amazed this is the first I’ve seen it mentioned. I’d have ripped the pathetic excuse of a striker off for that alone, ignoring the fact he can’t win a header, can’t anticipate a bouncing ball or a second ball, hides behind defenders when he’s making ‘runs’, his shit first touch his ambling from off side positions when we’d pressed and won the ball high up. AND THATS ALL AGAINST NORWICH!
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 23, 2019 18:04:07 GMT
You said Edwards was wank 2/3 months ago and now when asked again you're maintaining that he's still wank. I think that's utter rubbish because you can't admit to being wrong. Where have I mentioned the season? I'm talking about 1 player. It's obvious we've had a shit season, I'm not discussing that here though. What's going to change my mind in that time? He's not good and yeah there's plenty of time for him to get better. No hope for you lad. No doubt you were Cafu like when you were in your prime.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Apr 23, 2019 18:05:42 GMT
What's going to change my mind in that time? He's not good and yeah there's plenty of time for him to get better. No hope for you lad. No doubt you were Cafu like when you were in your prime. Nope, I don't like defending and never ever wanted to even if I had to.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Apr 23, 2019 18:11:00 GMT
What's going to change my mind in that time? He's not good and yeah there's plenty of time for him to get better. What specifically makes him not a good player, out of interest? I don't think he's a good defender and I don't think he's good going forward which is what we need at full-back.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 23, 2019 18:17:08 GMT
What specifically makes him not a good player, out of interest? I don't think he's a good defender and I don't think he's good going forward which is what we need at full-back. Interesting. Can you expand a bit? In what way is he not good at those things?
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