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Post by Olgrligm on Feb 9, 2019 23:04:27 GMT
Funny how we didn't concede any of those counter attack goals today.
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Post by numpty40 on Feb 9, 2019 23:07:43 GMT
He has become a gutless coward. No use to us. He has been poor but 'gutless coward' is not something you can accuse him of. He's one of the few players who always makes himself available for a pass unlike others who hide behind opposition players so as not to receive a pass.
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Post by tony1234 on Feb 9, 2019 23:13:46 GMT
Come on guys, not EVERYONE is intrinsically shit. If he played well, and he did well at Brentford, we know he can play well; there is at least a decent Championship footballer in there - one tipped for the PL last year.
If he isn't playing well now, its logically either a) effort, b) confidence c) ability to carry out instructions, d) system/tactics e) poor team mates (good players make players look good and vice versa) - or some combination.
Do we really think he isn't trying? Well if we accept he is actually trying, then its one of the other four.
My own take - I think our midfield is really hampered by a poor front line and has been for the past 1-2 years. Where is the movement, intelligence, interplay to create the opportunity for assists... or the abiliy to hold off men and keep possession. Or finish chances?... or the wing play to get the ball out there? Ultimately, the difference today was Gayle. If it hadn't been him, it would have been Rodriguez on another day. You are only as good as your strikers. Our's were utter shite last year, and this year, Afobe has been greatly disappointing and Vokes is okay, but they are not Gayle and Rodriguez. (One shot on target today, again!.)... i think this is what's turned Allen into a headless chicken too
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Post by RT-SCFC on Feb 9, 2019 23:17:16 GMT
In a team playing with confidence and good movement woods is one of the best midfielders in this league! His great skill is that he doesn’t over do things and keeps the play ticking. In a better team woods bosses this league
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Feb 10, 2019 3:16:55 GMT
He clearly isn't shit as some are suggesting. The lad has won player of the season at his previous clubs and the Brentford fans were absolutely gutted to loose him. He has not been performing as well as he can but who has? There is a cracking player there, whether it is a confidence thing with him at the minute i dont know. Just have a feeling we need to stick with him and he will show his worth.
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Post by rosco on Feb 10, 2019 3:57:02 GMT
What's happened to him? He was the dogs bollocks in September
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Post by Northy on Feb 10, 2019 6:54:39 GMT
Offers fuck all. I thought he was Abysmal again, like the fuckin rest of em and don’t get me started on the other ginger prick Clucas!!! ‘Just One of those things’ is it What colour is your hair?
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Post by pbpotter on Feb 10, 2019 7:14:00 GMT
Woods lacks confidence in my view. He started ok. Then he made a couple of errors in quick succession and went to pieces and then tended to go for safer/ negative options including not moving forward. Him and definitely Clucas looked decent signings on first show but them and possible others seems to have been infected by the lack of confidence around them. That's why i think Jones felt he had to bring in a new captain (just hope he doesn't catch the same disease).
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 10, 2019 10:20:32 GMT
Months ago I said he will never be as good as Adam Antother player we didn’t need , whose not as good as one we have and a a transfer disaster to add to the list of incompetence
Woods - Adam Adobe - Diouf Williama - Indi Martinez - Edwards & Bauer
Four to add to the crime sheet whiz previously for us relegated and wasted over £150m
How the lunatics are sill running the asylum is beyond comprehension.
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Post by tony1234 on Feb 10, 2019 12:22:20 GMT
Months ago I said he will never be as good as Adam Antother player we didn’t need , whose not as good as one we have and a a transfer disaster to add to the list of incompetence Woods - Adam Adobe - Diouf Williama - Indi Martinez - Edwards & Bauer Four to add to the crime sheet whiz previously for us relegated and wasted over £150m How the lunatics are sill running the asylum is beyond comprehension. "How the lunatics are sill running the asylum is beyond comprehension. " I know its got kinda boring saying that (i say it too, so no criticism), but that's really it isn't it? That's the one thing that needs to change. Shit signings and no culture of professionalism or accountability = slurry. As one of those who remember old fashioned school dinners, the law was that whatever ingredient you add to slurry, it still tastes like slurry. The kind way of putting it i'd say is that our board are outdated/outmoded... which means that they are outwitted at every turn, by opposing teams, lazy players, greedy agents.. which its the one area they are blind to fixing. They are simply not aware that they don't know how to run a 21st century football club with aspirations to play in one of top leagues in the world.
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Post by Beloved Monkfish on Feb 10, 2019 12:39:44 GMT
He has become a gutless coward. No use to us. He has been poor but 'gutless coward' is not something you can accuse him of. He's one of the few players who always makes himself available for a pass unlike others who hide behind opposition players so as not to receive a pass. Do you reckon? He spent a lot of the time tightly marking Rodriguez when we were in possession.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 10, 2019 13:13:17 GMT
He clearly isn't shit as some are suggesting. The lad has won player of the season at his previous clubs and the Brentford fans were absolutely gutted to loose him. He has not been performing as well as he can but who has? There is a cracking player there, whether it is a confidence thing with him at the minute i dont know. Just have a feeling we need to stick with him and he will show his worth. We seem to have a squad full of these "cracking player in there" types, don't we? All of which hardly ever have a cracking game. Either they are not being played right, or they are not cracking players. I am leaning towards the latter, if I am honest.
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Feb 10, 2019 18:24:49 GMT
Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 10, 2019 18:24:49 GMT
Months ago I said he will never be as good as Adam Antother player we didn’t need , whose not as good as one we have and a a transfer disaster to add to the list of incompetence Woods - Adam Adobe - Diouf Williama - Indi Martinez - Edwards & Bauer Four to add to the crime sheet whiz previously for us relegated and wasted over £150m How the lunatics are sill running the asylum is beyond comprehension. "How the lunatics are sill running the asylum is beyond comprehension. " I know its got kinda boring saying that (i say it too, so no criticism), but that's really it isn't it? That's the one thing that needs to change. Shit signings and no culture of professionalism or accountability = slurry. As one of those who remember old fashioned school dinners, the law was that whatever ingredient you add to slurry, it still tastes like slurry. The kind way of putting it i'd say is that our board are outdated/outmoded... which means that they are outwitted at every turn, by opposing teams, lazy players, greedy agents.. which its the one area they are blind to fixing. They are simply not aware that they don't know how to run a 21st century football club with aspirations to play in one of top leagues in the world. Tony the key though is the owners pay a chief executive very handsomely to run the company and it’s been a disaster , not a lapse of judgement , or risk gone wrong , it’s thrre years of catastrophic mismanagement and yet He’s still in role .
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Post by tony1234 on Feb 10, 2019 18:26:53 GMT
"How the lunatics are sill running the asylum is beyond comprehension. " I know its got kinda boring saying that (i say it too, so no criticism), but that's really it isn't it? That's the one thing that needs to change. Shit signings and no culture of professionalism or accountability = slurry. As one of those who remember old fashioned school dinners, the law was that whatever ingredient you add to slurry, it still tastes like slurry. The kind way of putting it i'd say is that our board are outdated/outmoded... which means that they are outwitted at every turn, by opposing teams, lazy players, greedy agents.. which its the one area they are blind to fixing. They are simply not aware that they don't know how to run a 21st century football club with aspirations to play in one of top leagues in the world. Tony the key though is the owners pay a chief executive very handsomely to run the company and it’s been a disaster , not a lapse of judgement , or risk gone wrong , it’s thrre years of catastrophic mismanagement and yet He’s still in role . Don't disagree Mr B. They should have fired him long ago.
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Post by sportsman on Feb 10, 2019 18:32:26 GMT
What's happened to him? He was the dogs bollocks in September Playing in a team lacking in confidence and movement. I like him. There's plenty in him to build on.
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Feb 10, 2019 18:46:46 GMT
Post by harrysburrow on Feb 10, 2019 18:46:46 GMT
Looked like he was playing in roller skates yesterday.
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Feb 10, 2019 20:57:13 GMT
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Feb 10, 2019 20:57:13 GMT
Never really brought into all the hype when he first arrived, and he's just become gradually worse!!!
I'd like him to become good, but at the moment, I just see him as part of the problem!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 20:58:40 GMT
Months ago I said he will never be as good as Adam Antother player we didn’t need , whose not as good as one we have and a a transfer disaster to add to the list of incompetence Woods - Adam Adobe - Diouf Williama - Indi Martinez - Edwards & Bauer Four to add to the crime sheet whiz previously for us relegated and wasted over £150m How the lunatics are sill running the asylum is beyond comprehension. This!
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 10, 2019 21:28:05 GMT
Half decent Championship player, never make a PL footballer. Complete waste of money.
File under 2018/19 season shite signings, alongside Afobe, Ince, McClean, Clucas, Vokes, Batth, Williams, Martina and Etobe.
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Feb 10, 2019 21:40:43 GMT
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Post by wilcopotter on Feb 10, 2019 21:40:43 GMT
I think he’s a good player. Got a good reception at Brentford. Liam played with him at Shrewsbury and said he can do anything Charlie Adam can. Granted, not playing very well at the moment. It’s alright casting some of these players as shit, but I can’t see Poona coming here somehow at the moment. The manager needs to take stock and see who he moves forward with.
The quicker this season ends the better. Then hopefully the 16k fans left can get behind the team.
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Feb 10, 2019 21:47:09 GMT
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 10, 2019 21:47:09 GMT
Half decent Championship player, never make a PL footballer. Complete waste of money. File under 2018/19 season shite signings, alongside Afobe, Ince, McClean, Clucas, Vokes, Batth, Williams, Martina and Etobe. You don’t think Vokes will turn out to be a decent Chsmpionship signing then Pugs?
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Feb 10, 2019 21:56:36 GMT
Post by Pugsley on Feb 10, 2019 21:56:36 GMT
Half decent Championship player, never make a PL footballer. Complete waste of money. File under 2018/19 season shite signings, alongside Afobe, Ince, McClean, Clucas, Vokes, Batth, Williams, Martina and Etobe. You don’t think Vokes will turn out to be a decent Chsmpionship signing then Pugs? Absolute camel
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 10, 2019 22:00:04 GMT
You don’t think Vokes will turn out to be a decent Chsmpionship signing then Pugs? Absolute camel One hump or two? Not so sure Pugs, I think he’ll score a decent amount, although I grant you I thought that about Afobe too and you correctly called him out as a camel.
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 10, 2019 22:05:50 GMT
One hump or two? Not so sure Pugs, I think he’ll score a decent amount, although I grant you I thought that about Afobe too and you correctly called him out as a camel. I've a massive downer on the lot of them. Hopefully he'll score a few goals.
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Feb 10, 2019 22:18:48 GMT
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Post by miltonpotter on Feb 10, 2019 22:18:48 GMT
Chill out guys he was only 6 million and 30k a week. Not that bad business to be fair..
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Post by rosco on Feb 11, 2019 2:24:07 GMT
Never really brought into all the hype when he first arrived, and he's just become gradually worse!!! I'd like him to become good, but at the moment, I just see him as part of the problem!!! His performance at Hillsborough was one of the best individual Stoke performances for a long time
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Feb 11, 2019 4:08:55 GMT
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Feb 11, 2019 4:08:55 GMT
Never really brought into all the hype when he first arrived, and he's just become gradually worse!!! I'd like him to become good, but at the moment, I just see him as part of the problem!!! His performance at Hillsborough was one of the best individual Stoke performances for a long time Okay, that's one......
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Post by mouseykanga2 on Feb 11, 2019 4:10:39 GMT
He's gone from the ginger Messi... To ginger mess up.... Never known so many players to drop off in form..?
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Post by djduncanjames on Feb 11, 2019 4:48:13 GMT
Highlight just one of his attributes please someone? I'll wait...... Wreck it Rob's avatar
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Feb 11, 2019 4:57:31 GMT
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Post by djduncanjames on Feb 11, 2019 4:57:31 GMT
Chill out guys he was only 6 million and 30k a week. Not that bad business to be fair.. Glenn Whelan anyone, it's madness Fuck have we done
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