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Post by citynickscfc on Feb 9, 2019 23:36:38 GMT
So why does he persist with it when it’s not working? 1 dimensional? He hasn't a clue? Out of his depth? Where is this experimentation he talked about? High press? It's Rowett and Lambert all over again.
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Post by jontimmis on Feb 9, 2019 23:38:23 GMT
Yes maybe all of those things.
We are only going in one direction!
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Post by smallthorner on Feb 9, 2019 23:42:33 GMT
apparently he's had all the time he needs. Now it's time to get on his back Nobody is saying that at all. He will be given time but the stark facts are that the guy has to do better than todays shit show. McClean up front? Diamond system? Shawcross sub? Signing more donkeys - Batth & Vokes? Letting your best left back go to a nothing French side? Interview after the game? That's a pretty accurate summary. I'd have more respect for him if he said that he was actually fooking about with things at tne moment to give him some ideas. If that was the case.
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Post by Absolution on Feb 9, 2019 23:46:11 GMT
On a slightly related point, they mentioned today on 5-Live that in the 67 games in which Luton had gone a goal up over the past two and a half seasons, they’d not lost a single game. It’s up to everyone to make up their own mind as to whether Jones can ever recreate what he achieved at Luton, but surely for now we need to keep our nerve and give him a real chance.
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Post by kjpt140v on Feb 10, 2019 0:01:00 GMT
Never banned for telling their own team to fuck off you lowlife Ok mate. You appalling sack of nowt. All the best. Just found out your a fucking lefty, momentum no doubt, no wonder you're a moaning lowlife
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Feb 10, 2019 0:04:22 GMT
Ok mate. You appalling sack of nowt. All the best. Just found out your a fucking lefty, momentum no doubt, no wonder you're a moaning lowlife Good grief, what a moron.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 1:28:57 GMT
Jesus would struggle to watch this shit. Also we are missing 3 wise men, but we have an over allocation on the donkeys
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Feb 10, 2019 1:47:53 GMT
As frustrating as it all is, barring what would have to be one of the most calamitous runs in our history, we will be in the Championship next year. If that is th case, Jones will have had the full summer window to do his business and create a squad that he thinks can go places. At the moment, we’re a hideous hybrid of the Premier League losers, Rowett’s shite, some kids and a couple of Jones players. That group is not going to gel anytime soon and Jones has made it pretty clear the group isn’t good enough. Cliched, but he needs time and time into the start of next year too. Plenty of Norwich fans were calling for Farke’s head after they won 1 out of their opening 7, with “boring possession play”.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 10, 2019 2:25:24 GMT
I was rather hoping that Nathan would say it as it was today. Oh well. Ben said in the car prior to the interview being aired, that he was confident that Jones would come on and tell it as it actually was, there was no way he could get away with any diplomacy after what we had witnessed today. Cue a complete shaking of heads in disbelief when he started using words like 'excellent' to describe our performance. The worry is not that he was simply just trying to spin what we saw but rather, that he actually believes what he said.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Feb 10, 2019 2:40:12 GMT
I was rather hoping that Nathan would say it as it was today. Oh well. Ben said in the car prior to the interview being aired, that he was confident that Jones would come on and tell it as it actually was, there was no way he could get away with any diplomacy after what we had witnessed today. Cue a complete shaking of heads in disbelief when he started using words like 'excellent' to describe our performance. The worry is not that he was simply just trying to spin what we saw but rather, that he actually believes what he said. I know as supporters we want the managers to tell us how it is and not treat us like blind idiots but, he’s tried calling a spade a spade and he’s not been afraid to drop big players. That plainly hasn’t worked so maybe now he’s trying to be positive to get some sort of confidence back in the club. As appalling as it is at present, there’s no way all the negativity helps the situation, especially if the manager comes out game after game and laments how wank we are. Rowett did it too. It’s the truth, no doubt about it - we are embarrassingly wank but we need to turn it around somehow. I’m in the US at the moment so haven’t seen the game but can well gather from here and on Twitter that it was another insipid, nothing performance. I highly doubt that Jones thinks it was actually excellent but he has a squad to manage which is fragile and weak. Maybe he thinks he needs to change the things he says to help them get better.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 2:47:39 GMT
To me he is giving everyone a chance ,to see who is staying and who's going ,it pretty simple No, don't make such excuses for him. Bojan just declared he's going to stay, and how does Jones reward such loyalty? By dropping him! By instead playing Ince who steadfastly refuses to play in Jones' dictated diamond!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 2:51:25 GMT
Ben said in the car prior to the interview being aired, that he was confident that Jones would come on and tell it as it actually was, there was no way he could get away with any diplomacy after what we had witnessed today. Cue a complete shaking of heads in disbelief when he started using words like 'excellent' to describe our performance. The worry is not that he was simply just trying to spin what we saw but rather, that he actually believes what he said. I know as supporters we want the managers to tell us how it is and not treat us like blind idiots but, he’s tried calling a spade a spade and he’s not been afraid to drop big players. That plainly hasn’t worked so maybe now he’s trying to be positive to get some sort of confidence back in the club. As appalling as it is at present, there’s no way all the negativity helps the situation, especially if the manager comes out game after game and laments how wank we are. Rowett did it too. It’s the truth, no doubt about it - we are embarrassingly wank but we need to turn it around somehow. I’m in the US at the moment so haven’t seen the game but can well gather from here and on Twitter that it was another insipid, nothing performance. I highly doubt that Jones thinks it was actually excellent but he has a squad to manage which is fragile and weak. Maybe he thinks he needs to change the things he says to help them get better. If he thinks we'll start playing better by fake flattery we are doomed! And what is he then going to say the day, sometime in the future, when we actually play "excellent"?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 3:03:06 GMT
He's trying to implement something a bit different and it's catching a lot of players out. Some are taking to it, some aren't. Name one player who looks comfortable within Jones' system? Batth and Vokes don't count as they're not contributing to th system, just filling out key places.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 8:58:38 GMT
I was rather hoping that Nathan would say it as it was today. Oh well. Ben said in the car prior to the interview being aired, that he was confident that Jones would come on and tell it as it actually was, there was no way he could get away with any diplomacy after what we had witnessed today. Cue a complete shaking of heads in disbelief when he started using words like 'excellent' to describe our performance. The worry is not that he was simply just trying to spin what we saw but rather, that he actually believes what he said. In terms of the fluency of the system it was an improvement, frustrating but an improvement nevertheless. Excellent is a massive over exaggeration of course, and the amount of wasted passes in key areas of the pitch was frighteningly bad. The next two games are key, we should be able to impose our system on teams like Wigan and Ipswich, if we do and come out with two decent results then that’s a couple more baby steps in the right direction. If we don’t then I think despite his best efforts he’ll have to be pragmatic in choosing a system to squeeze another 3/4 wins out so that we’re safe, and start again in the summer with a new team effectively.....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 9:06:40 GMT
He's trying to implement something a bit different and it's catching a lot of players out. Some are taking to it, some aren't. Name one player who looks comfortable within Jones' system? Batth and Vokes don't count as they're not contributing to th system, just filling out key places. I like this.
You ask me a question then tell me how to answer it.
What am I allowed to eat for my lunch today boss?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 9:07:42 GMT
He's trying to implement something a bit different and it's catching a lot of players out. Some are taking to it, some aren't. Name one player who looks comfortable within Jones' system? Batth and Vokes don't count as they're not contributing to th system, just filling out key places. Your second sentence makes no sense?
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Post by thepirehillpoet on Feb 10, 2019 11:14:26 GMT
Board are wank. Another day off for another visiting goalkeeper. We are just fucking wank. Your holiday is over Nath. You are shit and your team is fucking shit. Fuck off Stoke. Another thread that subtracts from the sum of human knowledge.
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 10, 2019 11:47:13 GMT
Don’t worry... we’ve got the wonderful Joe Allen who can walk into any Premiership first XI apparently !
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 10, 2019 11:52:00 GMT
Board are wank. Another day off for another visiting goalkeeper. We are just fucking wank. Your holiday is over Nath. You are shit and your team is fucking shit. Fuck off Stoke. Another thread that subtracts from the sum of human knowledge.
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Post by stokeson on Feb 10, 2019 11:56:53 GMT
On a slightly related point, they mentioned today on 5-Live that in the 67 games in which Luton had gone a goal up over the past two and a half seasons, they’d not lost a single game. It’s up to everyone to make up their own mind as to whether Jones can ever recreate what he achieved at Luton, but surely for now we need to keep our nerve and give him a real chance. We will find out when he takes us down?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 12:06:21 GMT
Name one player who looks comfortable within Jones' system? Batth and Vokes don't count as they're not contributing to th system, just filling out key places. I like this.
You ask me a question then tell me how to answer it.
What am I allowed to eat for my lunch today boss?
Just answer.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 12:07:40 GMT
I like this.
You ask me a question then tell me how to answer it.
What am I allowed to eat for my lunch today boss?
Just answer. How do you cook a 'just answer'?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 12:09:48 GMT
Name one player who looks comfortable within Jones' system? Batth and Vokes don't count as they're not contributing to th system, just filling out key places. Your second sentence makes no sense? Ignore it then. I just notice two people have commented without being able to name a single player who looks comfortable in the diamond. Which for those who don't know is a midfield combination that does not include centreback and centerforward....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 12:10:32 GMT
How do you cook a 'just answer'? Cook your brain.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 12:12:42 GMT
How do you cook a 'just answer'? Cook your brain. You bring the Chianti.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 12:16:14 GMT
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 10, 2019 12:17:56 GMT
You're teetotal and watch Stoke. Fuck may!
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Feb 10, 2019 12:23:59 GMT
You're teetotal and watch Stoke. Fuck may! This is the main problem! When I was a pisshead I loved watching Stoke. Sobriety makes it hell! P.S. You lefty, real ale (probably) drinking twat!
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Post by Absolution on Feb 10, 2019 12:27:12 GMT
On a slightly related point, they mentioned today on 5-Live that in the 67 games in which Luton had gone a goal up over the past two and a half seasons, they’d not lost a single game. It’s up to everyone to make up their own mind as to whether Jones can ever recreate what he achieved at Luton, but surely for now we need to keep our nerve and give him a real chance. We will find out when he takes us down? I doubt that'll happen.
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