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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 4:47:14 GMT
In the interview, he said: "God forbid you've ever had a member of your family hurt under criminal conditions. I'll tell you a story. This is true."
Neeson said the alleged rape took place a long time ago and he found out about it when he came back from a trip abroad. The actor went on to use racially offensive language about the attacker.
He said: "She handled the situation of the rape in the most extraordinary way.
"But my immediate reaction was... I asked, did she know who it was? No. What colour were they? She said it was a black person.
"I went up and down areas with a cosh, hoping I'd be approached by somebody - I'm ashamed to say that - and I did it for maybe a week, hoping some [uses air quotes with fingers] 'black bastard' would come out of a pub and have a go at me about something, you know? So that I could kill him."
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Post by starkiller on Feb 5, 2019 5:07:03 GMT
No racist views are expressed by him. People need to rethink their knee-jerk responses and stop crying 'ist' or 'phobe' to everything.
Because, in the end, it does more harm than help to the supposed causes and no discussion at all can take place.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 5:29:30 GMT
No racist views are expressed by him. People need to rethink their knee-jerk responses and stop crying 'ist' or 'phobe' to everything. Because, in the end, it does more harm than help to the supposed causes and no discussion at all can take place. Aye for the record that's how it's headlined on BBC News |
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Post by Mendicant on Feb 5, 2019 6:38:39 GMT
He inner daft. As an experienced Hollywood actor he knows how to promote a film and navigate a minefield of political correctness. He's referring to two big Hollywood preoccupations as the Oscars approach: racism and sexual assault and must know he'll cause a stir.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 7:54:31 GMT
No racist views are expressed by him. People need to rethink their knee-jerk responses and stop crying 'ist' or 'phobe' to everything. Because, in the end, it does more harm than help to the supposed causes and no discussion at all can take place. When something terrible happens to one of my loved ones my first instinct is always to ask “ what colour were they?” so I can go and find a random person of the same colour and kick the living shit out of them. It’s a perfectly rational non-racist thing to do.... |
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Post by starkiller on Feb 5, 2019 7:57:04 GMT
No racist views are expressed by him. People need to rethink their knee-jerk responses and stop crying 'ist' or 'phobe' to everything. Because, in the end, it does more harm than help to the supposed causes and no discussion at all can take place. When something terrible happens to one of my loved ones my first instinct is always to ask “ what colour were they?” so I can go and find a random person of the same colour and kick the living shit out of them. It’s a perfectly rational non-racist thing to do.... He never claimed it was rational. In fact, he suggested quite the opposite. Free, honest opinions that give far more of an opportunity for decent discussion than the simple racist/not racist dichotomy. But then, without that dichotomy, virtue-signallers wouldn't have any material. |
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Feb 5, 2019 8:40:54 GMT
No racist views are expressed by him. People need to rethink their knee-jerk responses and stop crying 'ist' or 'phobe' to everything. Because, in the end, it does more harm than help to the supposed causes and no discussion at all can take place. His view at the time was definitely racist as if it had been a white man that committed the rape in overwhelmingly an overwhelmingly white area, would he have have gone looking for a white man to kill? His views now are not racist. People reading the headlines and not the whole story will jump to whatever conclusions that want to believe about the story. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 9:09:35 GMT
When something terrible happens to one of my loved ones my first instinct is always to ask “ what colour were they?” so I can go and find a random person of the same colour and kick the living shit out of them. It’s a perfectly rational non-racist thing to do.... He never claimed it was rational. In fact, he suggested quite the opposite. Free, honest opinions that give far more of an opportunity for decent discussion than the simple racist/not racist dichotomy. But then, without that dichotomy, virtue-signallers wouldn't have any material. Always amuses me when you get labelled a virtue-signaller, member of the PC brigade, snowflake and the like for pointing out the blindingly obvious. If he'd wanted to know the persons skin colour so he could find the INDIVIDUAL in question that's one thing, but he didn't. You can be irrational AND a little bit racist at the same time, that is possible. Shame really, I was really looking forward to watching Taken 9 : This Time it's Personal or whatever the hell it's called..... |
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Feb 5, 2019 11:36:19 GMT
Shame really, I was really looking forward to watching Taken 9 : This Time it's Personal or whatever the hell it's called..... Are you saying you're now not looking forward/going to watch this film because someone had a moment of 'wrong think' in the past? |
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Post by thevoid on Feb 5, 2019 11:58:51 GMT
Next week's Question Time panel, Diane Abbott and Liam Neeson?
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Feb 5, 2019 12:21:35 GMT
Shame really, I was really looking forward to watching Taken 9 : This Time it's Personal or whatever the hell it's called..... Are you saying you're now not looking forward/going to watch this film because someone had a moment of 'wrong think' in the past? I think it was more a piss take of the fact all of his films in the last 15 years a have basically been the same. |
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Feb 5, 2019 12:25:46 GMT
Are you saying you're now not looking forward/going to watch this film because someone had a moment of 'wrong think' in the past? I think it was more a piss take of the fact all of his films in the last 15 years a have basically been the same. Ah right, gotcha. I'm not really a film buff & have no idea who Liam Neeson is, I just assumed that was the title of his latest film  |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Feb 5, 2019 12:29:14 GMT
I think it was more a piss take of the fact all of his films in the last 15 years a have basically been the same. Ah right, gotcha. I'm not really a film buff & have no idea who Liam Neeson is, I just assumed that was the title of his latest film They generally just go something like: Liam Neeson as some PTSD stricken former soldier, spy, agent, gangster, politician, snow plough driver (in this latest one) has a close family member killed,kidnapped, maimed or raped as revenge for something Neeson did in his former iteration as solider, spy, agent, gangster, politician, snow plough driver and spends 2 hours hunting them down and killing them, before it happening again in a sequel. Albeit to another family member. Powerful stuff  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 12:30:29 GMT
Shame really, I was really looking forward to watching Taken 9 : This Time it's Personal or whatever the hell it's called..... Are you saying you're now not looking forward/going to watch this film because someone had a moment of 'wrong think' in the past? It was actually a poor attempt at a joke about the fact that they have taken an average film and repeated the story line that many times it's embarrassing. I personally wouldn't watch a Liam Neeson film not on the basis of his unconscious racism, but more because on the "wooden actors" scale (1 being Omar Sharif, 10 being Keanu Reeves) he's about an 8......  |
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Feb 5, 2019 12:54:46 GMT
Hi new film is a remake of a great Norweigian language film with Stellan Skarsgård, Order Of Dissapearence. If you can live with subtitles it's a well worth watching. I doubt that Liam can pull of the same level of a performance as Stellan managed. On the subject of Skandnavian black comedies, check out Headhunters.
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It turns out that Norwegian film and the new one share the same director, so there is some hope...
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Post by starkiller on Feb 5, 2019 13:42:16 GMT
He never claimed it was rational. In fact, he suggested quite the opposite. Free, honest opinions that give far more of an opportunity for decent discussion than the simple racist/not racist dichotomy. But then, without that dichotomy, virtue-signallers wouldn't have any material. Always amuses me when you get labelled a virtue-signaller, member of the PC brigade, snowflake and the like for pointing out the blindingly obvious. If he'd wanted to know the persons skin colour so he could find the INDIVIDUAL in question that's one thing, but he didn't. You can be irrational AND a little bit racist at the same time, that is possible. Shame really, I was really looking forward to watching Taken 9 : This Time it's Personal or whatever the hell it's called..... Well the fact that you've decided that he's now a racist and will boycott his films shows you have done exactly what I've said. Screamed 'racist' like an npc and killed any discussion about the deeper issues. |
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Post by salopstick on Feb 5, 2019 13:48:32 GMT
John Barnes has applauded him.
Until you recognise and admit unconscious racism you can’t tackle it. Barnes words not mine
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 13:49:33 GMT
Always amuses me when you get labelled a virtue-signaller, member of the PC brigade, snowflake and the like for pointing out the blindingly obvious. If he'd wanted to know the persons skin colour so he could find the INDIVIDUAL in question that's one thing, but he didn't. You can be irrational AND a little bit racist at the same time, that is possible. Shame really, I was really looking forward to watching Taken 9 : This Time it's Personal or whatever the hell it's called..... Well the fact that you've decided that he's now a racist and will boycott his films shows you have done exactly what I've said. Screamed 'racist' like an npc and killed any discussion about the deeper issues. I've been boycotting his films for years, he's a terrible actor. Do keep up...... |
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Post by thevoid on Feb 5, 2019 13:59:36 GMT
His career could be Taken a turn for the worse, but he's hardly been talking Non-Stop about this has he?
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Post by thevoid on Feb 5, 2019 14:12:42 GMT
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Feb 5, 2019 14:38:16 GMT
No racist views are expressed by him. People need to rethink their knee-jerk responses and stop crying 'ist' or 'phobe' to everything. Because, in the end, it does more harm than help to the supposed causes and no discussion at all can take place. His view at the time was definitely racist as if it had been a white man that committed the rape in overwhelmingly an overwhelmingly white area, would he have have gone looking for a white man to kill? His views now are not racist. People reading the headlines and not the whole story will jump to whatever conclusions that want to believe about the story.
Oh...so his view at the time was DEFINITELY racist because YOU have decided how he would/wouldn't have reacted if the answer was different.
Got ya...as long as i now know that's how we ensure someting is DEFINITE from here on in  |
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Feb 5, 2019 14:45:05 GMT
His view at the time was definitely racist as if it had been a white man that committed the rape in overwhelmingly an overwhelmingly white area, would he have have gone looking for a white man to kill? His views now are not racist. People reading the headlines and not the whole story will jump to whatever conclusions that want to believe about the story. Oh...so his view at the time was DEFINITELY racist because YOU have decided how he would/wouldn't have reacted if the answer was different. Got ya...as long as i now know that's how we ensure someting is DEFINITE from here on in I'm clearly stupid, please explain how it was not racist? |
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Feb 5, 2019 14:57:22 GMT
Oh...so his view at the time was DEFINITELY racist because YOU have decided how he would/wouldn't have reacted if the answer was different. Got ya...as long as i now know that's how we ensure someting is DEFINITE from here on in I'm clearly stupid, please explain how it was not racist?
Well, your basis of it being racist is that if the answer had been "White" he wouldn't have reacted the same way....which is based on absolutely NOTHING, zilch, squat, fuck all whatsoever apart from your own mind.
I'm simply staggered that you can't see the utter stupidity of saying something is "Definite" because of a conclusion that YOU have presumed which has no basis in fact whatsoever. Can you not see the mindnumbing, skullfucking idiotic nature of what you said????
Try it in court mate....."Yes m'lud, it was definitely racist. Proof? Well i just reckon myself that he'd probably have done something different if the bloke was white, that should be enough to make it definite shouldn't it?".
Actually....i think Neeson probably would have reacted exactly the same way if the bloke was white and he'd have gone after a "White bastard" instead. There we go, case closed...i think something on behalf of someone's else's brain, so therefore it's DEFINITE eh?
Daft melt
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Post by salopstick on Feb 5, 2019 15:07:24 GMT
I'm clearly stupid, please explain how it was not racist? Well, your basis of it being racist is that if the answer had been "White" he wouldn't have reacted the same way....which is based on absolutely NOTHING, zilch, squat, fuck all whatsoever apart from your own mind.
I'm simply staggered that you can't see the utter stupidity of saying something is "Definite" because of a conclusion that YOU have presumed which has no basis in fact whatsoever. Can you not see the mindnumbing, skullfucking idiotic nature of what you said???? Try it in court mate....."Yes m'lud, it was definitely racist. Proof? Well i just reckon myself that he'd probably have done something different if the bloke was white, that should be enough to make it definite shouldn't it?".
Actually....i think Neeson probably would have reacted exactly the same way if the bloke was white and he'd have gone after a "White bastard" instead. There we go, case closed...i think something on behalf of someone's else's brain, so therefore it's DEFINITE eh? Daft melt
He told ABC: "If she had said an Irish or a Scot or a Brit or a Lithuanian I would - I know I would - have had the same effect. I was trying to show honour, to stand up for my dear friend in this terribly medieval fashion." |
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Feb 5, 2019 15:08:57 GMT
I'm clearly stupid, please explain how it was not racist? Well, your basis of it being racist is that if the answer had been "White" he wouldn't have reacted the same way....which is based on absolutely NOTHING, zilch, squat, fuck all whatsoever apart from your own mind.
I'm simply staggered that you can't see the utter stupidity of saying something is "Definite" because of a conclusion that YOU have presumed which has no basis in fact whatsoever. Can you not see the mindnumbing, skullfucking idiotic nature of what you said???? Try it in court mate....."Yes m'lud, it was definitely racist. Proof? Well i just reckon myself that he'd probably have done something different if the bloke was white, that should be enough to make it definite shouldn't it?".
Actually....i think Neeson probably would have reacted exactly the same way if the bloke was white and he'd have gone after a "White bastard" instead. There we go, case closed...i think something on behalf of someone's else's brain, so therefore it's DEFINITE eh? Daft melt
I'm not sure what has triggered you here, perhaps it was my judgemental tone, but my point was that his actions were racist and he has come to accept that they were wrong. If specifically targeting a black man to kill because a black man raped his friend is not racist, then I don't know what is. Much in the same way, if the guilty man had been of a different religion to his own and he targeted them, then it would have been sectarian. |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 5, 2019 16:50:56 GMT
Well, your basis of it being racist is that if the answer had been "White" he wouldn't have reacted the same way....which is based on absolutely NOTHING, zilch, squat, fuck all whatsoever apart from your own mind.
I'm simply staggered that you can't see the utter stupidity of saying something is "Definite" because of a conclusion that YOU have presumed which has no basis in fact whatsoever. Can you not see the mindnumbing, skullfucking idiotic nature of what you said???? Try it in court mate....."Yes m'lud, it was definitely racist. Proof? Well i just reckon myself that he'd probably have done something different if the bloke was white, that should be enough to make it definite shouldn't it?".
Actually....i think Neeson probably would have reacted exactly the same way if the bloke was white and he'd have gone after a "White bastard" instead. There we go, case closed...i think something on behalf of someone's else's brain, so therefore it's DEFINITE eh? Daft melt
He told ABC: "If she had said an Irish or a Scot or a Brit or a Lithuanian I would - I know I would - have had the same effect. I was trying to show honour, to stand up for my dear friend in this terribly medieval fashion." What about the L.A. riots, when black people were targeting whites in retribution for the attack on Rodney King? They fucking spray painted one and battered him! People do fucked up things when trauma kicks in. I realise that the L.A. riots were the result of prolonged police brutality and also a shooting of a young black girl by a Korean shopkeeper, which, would you believe, resulted in Korean shopkeepers being looted. Did the innocent, white trucker deserve his horrific beating by a, incidentally, laughing group of black men? People think and do irrational things when treated badly. Black and white. |
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Post by mattyd on Feb 5, 2019 18:47:52 GMT
But he didn't actually carry out his thoughts of revenge.
It's like saying if that dog bites me i'm gonna kick it in the bollocks.
Do you get reported to the RSPCA for saying what you "WOULD" do.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Feb 5, 2019 19:16:38 GMT
Mans friend gets raped by black man.
Man seeks revenge against black men as retaliation.
Man grows up and sees that this is just a reaction based on hurt and anger, and admits feeling ashamed of these thoughts.
That’s it, complete fucking non-story if this came out back when the world wasn’t a politically correct, offended by everything, gender neutral mess.
I imagine social media has already hung drawn and quartered him.
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Post by salopstick on Feb 5, 2019 19:17:41 GMT
Mans friend gets raped by black man. Man seeks revenge against black men as retaliation. Man grows up and sees that this is just a reaction based on hurt and anger, and admits feeling ashamed of these thoughts. That’s it, complete fucking non-story if this came out back when the world wasn’t a politically correct, offended by everything, gender neutral mess. I imagine social media has already hung drawn and quartered him. They did worse for the phantom menace |
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Post by Goonie on Feb 5, 2019 19:26:17 GMT
Liam-Neeson-has-a-new-film-out-shocker
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