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Post by berahinosgoals on Aug 8, 2019 7:14:02 GMT
Stoke should have been in for van dyk at the time, a few were saying it. We didn't, the rest is history. Stoke should have gone for maguire, we went for wimmer, the rest is history. Let's not miss out on the next, hey. Collins 30 games at 18? Really? You get off on chucking kids in at the deep end with lead weights around their ankles do you Bayern? 😉 This mckenna really could be the next van dyk that sells on for ridiculous money. Gayle will have brought in nothing on resale We didn’t go for Wimmer over Maguire. It’s pretty well documented Maguire chose Leicester so we punted for Wimmer Fair enough but even so, if bmi departs why shouldn't we go for mckenna with the money from him? After all, we need one in, we have saved on not signing gayle, bmi might bring in some. Playing collins for 30+ games sounds wonderful, truth is though he is inexperienced and not used to the pressure, needs to be brought in slowly, imo
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Post by werrington on Aug 8, 2019 7:15:55 GMT
We didn’t go for Wimmer over Maguire. It’s pretty well documented Maguire chose Leicester so we punted for Wimmer Fair enough but even so, if bmi departs why shouldn't we go for mckenna with the money from him? After all, we need one in, we have saved on not signing gayle, bmi might bring in some. Playing collins for 30+ games sounds wonderful, truth is though he is inexperienced and not used to the pressure, needs to be brought in slowly, imo I’d have Mackenna as we’ve only got 3 CHs at the minute If it’s A.N Other I don’t mind
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Post by berahinosgoals on Aug 8, 2019 7:17:02 GMT
Stoke should have been in for van dyk at the time, a few were saying it. We didn't, the rest is history. Stoke should have gone for maguire, we went for wimmer, the rest is history. Let's not miss out on the next, hey. Collins 30 games at 18? Really? You get off on chucking kids in at the deep end with lead weights around their ankles do you Bayern? 😉 This mckenna really could be the next van dyk that sells on for ridiculous money. Gayle will have brought in nothing on resale Maguire isn’t anything special. I wanted him and suggested it on here when he was at Sheffield United though and that was the time we needed to be in for him imo. It’s not chucking him in at the deep end. After Shawcross he’s our best CB for me. I don’t want Gayle. 'Currently' our best cb after shawcross in your opinion. So you're saying then we shouldnt improve that area even when our second best CB has no first team experience? Maguire nothing special? Jesus, I've heard it all now
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 8, 2019 7:17:02 GMT
It wasn’t. You said there’s loads of good players from Scotland. I said name them. You haven’t. And it isn’t but we need a 4th choice not someone to deny Collins games. Larsson is another You said it’s a shit standard, I’ve pointed some out Overall it is. You’ve got to pick the right ones. McKenna seems better than the average but if him signing means Collins doesn’t play then I don’t want him. You’ve had to go back donkeys years for that one!
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Post by neddy on Aug 8, 2019 7:17:03 GMT
Just can’t see this one happening...
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Post by clarkeda on Aug 8, 2019 7:17:51 GMT
We didn’t go for Wimmer over Maguire. It’s pretty well documented Maguire chose Leicester so we punted for Wimmer Fair enough but even so, if bmi departs why shouldn't we go for mckenna with the money from him? After all, we need one in, we have saved on not signing gayle, bmi might bring in some. Playing collins for 30+ games sounds wonderful, truth is though he is inexperienced and not used to the pressure, needs to be brought in slowly, imo I’d just plonk Wimmer on the bench tbh. We’re already paying him. I’d go with the 3 we have and Wimmer in absolute emergency
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 8, 2019 7:17:56 GMT
Maguire isn’t anything special. I wanted him and suggested it on here when he was at Sheffield United though and that was the time we needed to be in for him imo. It’s not chucking him in at the deep end. After Shawcross he’s our best CB for me. I don’t want Gayle. 'Currently' our best cb after shawcross in your opinion. So you're saying then we shouldnt improve that area? Maguire nothing special? Jesus, I've heard it all now Batth Lindsay and Collins with a back up if desperate is fine. Maguire is average.
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Post by shrewspotter on Aug 8, 2019 7:18:10 GMT
Just can’t see this one happening... not now. Looks like Carter-Vickers on loan and I bet that will be the lot
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Post by berahinosgoals on Aug 8, 2019 7:21:28 GMT
'Currently' our best cb after shawcross in your opinion. So you're saying then we shouldnt improve that area? Maguire nothing special? Jesus, I've heard it all now Batth Lindsay and Collins with a back up if desperate is fine. Maguire is average. So in your own words our second best central defender has no first team experience but we shouldn't improve it we should get back up instead, back up to an 18 year old with no first team experience? 🤔
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 8, 2019 7:23:14 GMT
Batth Lindsay and Collins with a back up if desperate is fine. Maguire is average. So in your own words our second best central defender has no first team experience but we shouldn't improve it we should get back up instead, back up to an 18 year old with no first team experience? 🤔 We have 3 good CBs who are all good for starting. Collins is class.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Aug 8, 2019 7:26:13 GMT
Fair enough but even so, if bmi departs why shouldn't we go for mckenna with the money from him? After all, we need one in, we have saved on not signing gayle, bmi might bring in some. Playing collins for 30+ games sounds wonderful, truth is though he is inexperienced and not used to the pressure, needs to be brought in slowly, imo I’d just plonk Wimmer on the bench tbh. We’re already paying him. I’d go with the 3 we have and Wimmer in absolute emergency Each to their own, not for me though. A solid defence is a must for me, especially when we collapse and feel the pressure if we go one down. We're expecting an 18 year old with no first team experience to play a major part in these circumstances? Not for me
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Post by berahinosgoals on Aug 8, 2019 7:27:21 GMT
So in your own words our second best central defender has no first team experience but we shouldn't improve it we should get back up instead, back up to an 18 year old with no first team experience? 🤔 We have 3 good CBs who are all good for starting. Collins is class. Tom pope had a field day
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Post by clarkeda on Aug 8, 2019 7:27:27 GMT
I’d just plonk Wimmer on the bench tbh. We’re already paying him. I’d go with the 3 we have and Wimmer in absolute emergency Each to their own, not for me though. A solid defence is a must for me, especially when we collapse and feel the pressure if we go one down. We're expecting an 18 year old with no first team experience to play a major part in these circumstances? Not for me How’s he going to get first team experience then? There’s only one way that’ll happen.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Aug 8, 2019 7:30:19 GMT
Each to their own, not for me though. A solid defence is a must for me, especially when we collapse and feel the pressure if we go one down. We're expecting an 18 year old with no first team experience to play a major part in these circumstances? Not for me How’s he going to get first team experience then? There’s only one way that’ll happen. Pick & choose games aswell as substitute appearances. He's 18 years old, throwing in him in for successive games is not always the best way, fair enough at league 1 but we arnt in league 1. Personally, I wouldn't be against sending him out on loan to a league 1 side for a full season of first team football to get that first team experience
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Post by clarkeda on Aug 8, 2019 8:13:38 GMT
How’s he going to get first team experience then? There’s only one way that’ll happen. Pick & choose games aswell as substitute appearances. He's 18 years old, throwing in him in for successive games is not always the best way, fair enough at league 1 but we arnt in league 1. Personally, I wouldn't be against sending him out on loan to a league 1 side for a full season of first team football to get that first team experience You say you was a solid defence but then say about substituting him on? The one thing you don’t mess with is CB pairings mid game.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Aug 8, 2019 10:41:42 GMT
Collins, Mckenna, Batth and a fit again Shawcross as the 4 CB's - I'd take that any day of the week. Why not Lindsay? Because I'd obviously forgotten about him! Hard to keep up these days.
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